The Four Seasons (band): Reinvented

Classicalfan626

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Alright, here's my list of singles The Four Seasons come out with between the years 1960 and 1980. Each entry lists the month and year the singles come out, followed by an A-side and a B-side for each single.

This list includes songs that already serve as signature hits for the band pre-changing history, such as "Rag Doll", "Sherry", "Dawn (Go Away)", "Walk Like a Man", and "December 1963 (Oh What a Night)". It also includes notable existing covers (i.e. "Stay"), covers I added to the band's repertoire (i.e. "Money (That's What I Want)"), and a variety of fresh, original rock songs that I added to the band as well (i.e. "Daisy"). Please note that those songs I made up are simply ideas for song titles that may or may not come through when it is time to change history.

Well, this is it:
  1. April 1960 - Daisy/Goodbye My Love
  2. June 1960 - Please Be My Girl/Miami Angel
  3. August 1960 - Love Me Baby/Fanny Anne
  4. October 1960 - Money (That’s What I Want)/Tell Me
  5. January 1961 - Every Day/I Need You Girl
  6. February 1961 - I Never Knew/This Guy Doesn’t Love You
  7. April 1961 - Tonight We Kissed/When I See You Again
  8. June 1961 - Lacy/It’s Not So Bad
  9. August 1961 - Julie/I Wanna Get Married
  10. October 1961 - Oh Baby/That’s My Love
  11. January 1962 - You’re Too Late/Tonight
  12. February 1962 - Hello Pretty Girl/I Love Your Charm
  13. April 1962 - Don't Give Me Up/Easy Love
  14. June 1962 - Costa Rica/My Lily
  15. August 1962 - Sherry/I’ve Cried Before
  16. October 1962 - Big Girls Don’t Cry/Connie-O
  17. December 1962 - Santa Claus Is Coming To Town/Christmas Tears
  18. January 1963 - Walk Like A Man/Lucky Ladybug
  19. February 1963 - Make Me Love You/That’s Not Your Desire
  20. March 1963 - Honey Bunny/Our Last Dance
  21. April 1963 - Ain’t That a Shame!/Soon (I’ll Be Home Again)
  22. June 1963 - Candy Girl/Marlena
  23. August 1963 - Not What You Like/Dreamy Love
  24. September 1963 - New Mexican Rose/That’s The Only Way
  25. October 1963 - Your Tender Kiss/Miserable Nights
  26. December 1963 - Little Darlin’/The Time Is Near
  27. January 1964 - Dawn (Go Away)/Forever My Love
  28. February 1964 - Stay/Peanuts
  29. March 1964 - Will You Love Me Tomorrow/Big Man’s World
  30. April 1964 - Ronnie/Born To Wander
  31. May 1964 - Alone/Don’t Cry
  32. June 1964 - Rag Doll/Silence Is Golden
  33. July 1964 - If You Care For Me/My Love For You
  34. August 1964 - Save It For Me/Funny Face
  35. September 1964 - One Song/Since I Don’t Have You
  36. October 1964 - Big Man In Town/Little Angel
  37. November 1964 - My Sugar/To Understand You
  38. December 1964 - I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus/White Christmas
  39. January 1965 - Bye Bye Baby (Baby Goodbye)/You’re Not Alone
  40. February 1965 - Sweet Kisses/Marcie
  41. March 1965 - Baby Be Mine/Danger
  42. April 1965 - Toy Soldier/Betrayed
  43. May 1965 - Don’t Worry Baby/Seems Like Only Yesterday
  44. June 1965 - Girl Come Running/Cry Myself To Sleep
  45. August 1965 - The Sun Ain’t Gonna Shine (Anymore)/This is Goodbye (as Frankie Valli)
  46. August 1965 - Lovely Days/Losing a Good Thing
  47. September 1965 - Let’s Hang On!/Goodnight Baby
  48. October 1965 - Don’t Think Twice (It’s Alright)/Sassy (as The Wonder Who?)
  49. December 1965 - Little Boy (In Grown-Up Clothes)/Silver Wings
  50. January 1966 - (You’re Gonna) Hurt Yourself/Night Hawk (as Frankie Valli)
  51. January 1966 - Working My Way Back To You/Too Many Memories
  52. February 1966 - Lightnin’ Strikes/It’s Alright
  53. May 1966 - You’re Ready Now/Cry For Me (as Frankie Valli)
  54. May 1966 - Opus 17 (Don’t You Worry ‘Bout Me)/Beggar’s Parade
  55. June 1966 - On The Good Ship Lollipop/You’re Nobody Till Somebody Loves You (as The Wonder Who?)
  56. August 1966 - I’ve Got You Under My Skin/Huggin’ My Pillow
  57. November 1966 - The Proud One/Ivy (as Frankie Valli)
  58. December 1966 - Tell It To The Rain/A Perfect World
  59. January 1967 - Nobody Cares/Two Fools In Love
  60. February 1967 - Beggin’/Save My City
  61. May 1967 - Can’t Take My Eyes Off You/The Trouble With Me (as Frankie Valli)
  62. June 1967 - C'mon Marianne/My Selfish Pride
  63. July 1967 - Lonesome Road/Candy Land (as The Wonder Who?)
  64. August 1967 - I Make A Fool Of Myself/September Rain (as Frankie Valli)
  65. August 1967 - We're Flying High/Roadrunner
  66. October 1967 - Watch The Flowers Grow/It Moves Me
  67. December 1967 - To Give (The Reason I Live)/Watch Where You Walk (as Frankie Valli)
  68. January 1968 - Pauline/Showtime
  69. February 1968 - The Sun, Moon, Stars, and Sky/Romantic Rendezvous
  70. April 1968 - Since You Came/Make Me Yours (as Frankie Valli)
  71. June 1968 - Fallen Hero/We Don’t Need a Change
  72. September 1968 - Let Me Live/My Mother’s Eyes (as Frankie Valli)
  73. December 1968 - Marxist Fever/Tell Her No
  74. January 1969 - Call Me Crazy/That’s No Good
  75. March 1969 - Raspberry Mountain/Raise The Flag
  76. June 1969 - The Girl I’ll Never Know (Angels Never Fly This Low)/A Face Without A Name (as Frankie Valli)
  77. September 1969 - Gimme Gimme Your Love/Moon Stories
  78. October 1969 - Knowing You/Fighting Fire With Fire
  79. December 1969 - The Last Waltz/Untie These Knots (as Frankie Valli)
  80. January 1970 - Sapphire Skies/Traitor’s Paradise
  81. April 1970 - Prohibition Resurrection/Relax
  82. June 1970 - For Once In My Life/Red, Red Rose (as Frankie Valli)
  83. September 1970 - I’m Comin’ Home/Good God (It’s Great)
  84. November 1970 - You Can Make Me Fly/Sweeter Than Sugar (as Frankie Valli)
  85. November 1970 - Tobacco Taboo/Intoxication Station
  86. January 1971 - Blades Of Cotton/Ode To Joy (Do You Love Me Pretty Baby)
  87. April 1971 - Pretty Fool /Friendly Face (as Frankie Valli)
  88. June 1971 - What Say You/Rip It Over and Out
  89. August 1971 - Georgia Girl/What Happened To Our Love? (as Frankie Valli)
  90. August 1971 - Fly Me To Jupiter/Rock and Roll Music
  91. October 1971 - You Ease The Pain/Crystal Clear
  92. February 1972 - A Brand New Life/Plain as Hell
  93. April 1972 - Means Nothing To Me/What Is It Girl? (as Frankie Valli)
  94. June 1972 - No Way Girl/Umbrella Man
  95. July 1972 - Not This Time/Hawaiian Paradise (as Frankie Valli)
  96. September 1972 - Show Off Girl/Wanderin’
  97. October 1972 - Hit Me/Blackjack Blues
  98. January 1973 - Great Times With You/Take Off
  99. March 1973 - You’re All I Need/Long Lonely Days (as Frankie Valli)
  100. May 1973 - Dizzy Wheels/The Stranger (On The Street)
  101. June 1973 - Booze Row/Just As I Like It
  102. September 1973 - Talkin’ Trash/Pullover
  103. December 1973 - It’s Not Unusual/Don’t Like Me, Love Me (as Frankie Valli)
  104. February 1974 - Without, Within/A Thousand Tears
  105. April 1974 - Nothin' Special/Hotshot
  106. June 1974 - Until I Found You/Payin’ The Price (as Frankie Valli)
  107. July 1974 - Feelin’ Cool/Pool Shark
  108. September 1974 - A Hundred Miles/No Kiddin’
  109. November 1974 - My Eyes Adored You/Foolish Love (as Frankie Valli)
  110. February 1975 - Jersey Fever/High-Heeled Shoes
  111. May 1975 - Swearin’ To God/Why (as Frankie Valli)
  112. June 1975 - Gimme A Chance/Playin’ It Safe
  113. August 1975 - Who Loves You/Hawkeye
  114. October 1975 - Our Day Will Come/You Can Bet (as Frankie Valli)
  115. December 1975 - December 1963 (Oh What A Night)/Slip Away
  116. February 1976 - Holdin’ On/Close The Door
  117. March 1976 - Fallen Angel/Carrie (I Would Marry You) (as Frankie Valli)
  118. May 1976 - Silver Star/Flashback
  119. July 1976 - Jet Surf/What’s Best For You
  120. October 1976 - The Thing Called Love/Everything Darlin’ (as Frankie Valli)
  121. October 1976 - Workin'/Love Explosion
  122. January 1977 - Day and Night/The Player
  123. April 1977 - I’m a Loner/Disco Wizard (as Frankie Valli)
  124. April 1977 - Play That Funky Music/It’s Not Over Yet
  125. July 1977 - Love is Priceless/Heartbreaks and Heartaches (as Frankie Valli)
  126. August 1977 - Silly Silly/Shake The Floor
  127. October 1977 - When I Feel Down/Fightin’ Back The Tears
  128. January 1978 - Shake It Baby/Take Me Home
  129. March 1978 - Soul Searchin’/My Sunshine
  130. May 1978 - Grease/Feel The Rhythm (as Frankie Valli)
  131. August 1978 - Brain Drain/In A Hump
  132. October 1978 - I’m Feelin’ Alright/You Got Me Good (as Frankie Valli)
  133. October 1978 - Diamonds & Rubies/Blows Me Up a Thrill
  134. February 1979 - Come On Up/Joy and Laughter
  135. March 1979 - Red Robin/It’s Killin’ Me (as Frankie Valli)
  136. June 1979 - All Your Love/I Won’t Worry
  137. July 1979 - The Perfect Pair/Gimme a Reason (as Frankie Valli)
  138. September 1979 - Love Cruise/Sexy Lady
  139. December 1979 - Just One Night/Lovers Forever
  140. February 1980 - Don’t Ask Me Why/Only Together (as Frankie Valli)
  141. April 1980 - Working My Way Back To You 1980/Ace of Jacks
  142. May 1980 - Don’t Be Cruel/Lovin’ At Daybreak
  143. July 1980 - Flow With It/For Money Or Love (as Frankie Valli)
  144. August 1980 - Time Of The Season/Doesn’t Make Sense
  145. October 1980 - Heavenly Love (Hold Me)/Video Arcade
Coming soon: 76 studio albums by The Four Seasons I have released between 1960 and 1980
 

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@Classicalfan626 Just a few points you have overlooked....You are forgetting The King, Elvis Presley and his Rock n Roll style that was world wide...Frankie Valley would obviously have been singing in his falsetto range and the whole group became internationally famous anyways between 1960 to 1970, but could never eclipse Elvis...The "Pop" world of music which were mostly teenagers was awaiting something new and different, and this was where the Beatles came in and filled that huge gap..(y)

They were four young kids from Liverpool England who had their own unique style of rock n roll music and a wonderful "charm" that endeared people of all ages, plus a lovely sense of humour...The kids of the day could relate very easily to them and teenage girls could see them as their boyfriends, thats why they were screaming so loud when ever they could actually see them in person lol ::LOL::

However in life, people get older and their musical tastes will expand to different areas, as it did with the Beatles and their fans...I dont feel that by that huge mass of songs you made for The Four Seasons, would do anything to make them more popular than what they were in this time-line mate, and producing 76 albums in 20 years?!?!? :eek:..that would be totally impossible, mentally physically financially and practically :D.

I fully understand your personal views on The Four Seasons and the type of songs you would have loved them to produce, but even in another time-line i dont think any intervention from you would do anything to really change much in the wonderful world of Popular Music :)
 

Classicalfan626

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@TimeFlipper:
Just a few points you have overlooked....You are forgetting The King, Elvis Presley and his Rock n Roll style that was world wide...Frankie Valley would obviously have been singing in his falsetto range and the whole group became internationally famous anyways between 1960 to 1970, but could never eclipse Elvis...The "Pop" world of music which were mostly teenagers was awaiting something new and different, and this was where the Beatles came in and filled that huge gap..(y)
That's where you're wrong, I think. I never forgot about Elvis. In fact, in the next lifetime, Elvis helps inspire The Four Seasons with his music. He skips the Army to concentrate on his music, due, of course, to a hotly contested rivalry with Engelbert Humperdinck starting in 1957. Elvis's rebelliousness continues from 1958 on, and The Seasons find inspiration from him, as well as several rock bands I invented that predate The Seasons between 1959 and 1960. And I don't remember saying that The Seasons would ever eclipse Elvis, by the way.
They were four young kids from Liverpool England who had their own unique style of rock n roll music and a wonderful "charm" that endeared people of all ages, plus a lovely sense of humour...The kids of the day could relate very easily to them and teenage girls could see them as their boyfriends, thats why they were screaming so loud when ever they could actually see them in person lol ::LOL::
Regardless of The Four Seasons being innovative in their own right, The Beatles' musical style would still inevitably be unique. Lennon and McCartney were genuine geniuses. The other stuff you mentioned will keep them in the spotlight as well. I have nothing against that.
However in life, people get older and their musical tastes will expand to different areas, as it did with the Beatles and their fans...I dont feel that by that huge mass of songs you made for The Four Seasons, would do anything to make them more popular than what they were in this time-line mate, and producing 76 albums in 20 years?!?!? :eek:..that would be totally impossible, mentally physically financially and practically :D.
It's not mainly the quantity of songs that will define how more popular The Four Seasons will become, it's the quality. And take my word for it: all of those songs I put forth will be of excellent quality. Increased quality for every song + increased output of songs = exponentially increased popularity for The Four Seasons.

76 albums in 20 years I don't see as being far-fetched at all. I know it's a lot of material, but anything is possible, at least, virtually anything. For instance, Franz Schubert produced an immense output of musical compositions at the time of his premature death at the age of 31, and even more so did Mozart at the time of his death at age 35. Believe me, the list of compositions each by Schubert and Mozart are outstanding, and had they not come out with nearly as many great musical works, there's no way they'd be anywhere near as famous and popular as they have been throughout the ages. And each and every one of those 76 Four Seasons albums in the span of 20 years will do extremely well financially, so you can bet finances won't be much of a problem for that band anyway.
I fully understand your personal views on The Four Seasons and the type of songs you would have loved them to produce, but even in another time-line i dont think any intervention from you would do anything to really change much in the wonderful world of Popular Music :)
Oh TF, if only you could read my mind! :rolleyes: You will be surprised how much the changes I make to The Four Seasons and other artists will impact the world of popular music. The world of popular music will have so much more to look back upon, that the music of today will be so much better than it is already, and I can actually see the society and politics of the world (especially the U.S.) will change for the better as well.

I would recommend that you think more outside the box, and not underestimate the potential of what I can accomplish with my capabilities. Who knows, it may not be exactly 76 albums in 20 years, then again, it could be. I'm just throwing an idea out there.
 

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And now, as promised, are 76 studio albums by The Four Seasons I have released between 1960 and 1980. Keep note that many of these album titles are project titles as well, and may end up with completely different titles.

Alright, here it comes:
  1. April 1960 - Daisy
  2. August 1960 - Rhythm 'n Seasons
  3. October 1960 - The Money Tree
  4. February 1961 - Lady Luck
  5. June 1961 - Summertime
  6. August 1961 - Girl Crazy
  7. October 1961 - Oh Baby
  8. April 1962 - Easy Love
  9. June 1962 - Vacation At Last
  10. August 1962 - Sherry
  11. October 1962 - Big Girls Don't Cry
  12. December 1962 - Seasons' Greetings
  13. February 1963 - Walk!
  14. April 1963 - Ain't That a Shame!
  15. June 1963 - Candy Girl
  16. September 1963 - New Mexican Rose
  17. November 1963 - Folk Nanny
  18. January 1964 - Dawn Go Away!
  19. April 1964 - Born To Wander
  20. June 1964 - Rag Doll
  21. August 1964 - Jump For Joy
  22. October 1964 - Big Man In Town
  23. December 1964 - Seasons' Greetings II
  24. February 1965 - Baby Goodbye
  25. April 1965 - Toy Soldier
  26. July 1965 - In Season
  27. September 1965 - Let's Hang On!
  28. November 1965 - Purple Bus
  29. February 1966 - Working My Way Back To You
  30. May 1966 - Opus 17
  31. August 1966 - Back To School Blues
  32. December 1966 - Lightning and Rain
  33. February 1967 - Save Our City
  34. May 1967 - Eyes On You!
  35. July 1967 - Psychedelic Fantasy
  36. October 1967 - Power To The Flowers!
  37. February 1968 - Bright Day, Starry Night
  38. June 1968 - Fallen Hero
  39. December 1968 - The Four Seasons (The Red Album)
  40. February 1969 - Revival of the Rebel
  41. April 1969 - Raspberry Mountain
  42. June 1969 - Ashtray
  43. September 1969 - Moon Man
  44. January 1970 - Sapphire Skies
  45. May 1970 - Prohibition Resurrection
  46. November 1970 - Intoxication Station
  47. January 1971 - Symphonysis
  48. June 1971 - Imaginative Rescue
  49. October 1971 - Crystal Clear
  50. February 1972 - A Brand New Life
  51. June 1972 - Umbrella Man
  52. October 1972 - Sin City
  53. February 1973 - Hot Tank
  54. May 1973 - Dizzy Wheels
  55. September 1973 - Talkin' Trash
  56. February 1974 - Garage Genie
  57. July 1974 - Swimming With Sharks
  58. November 1974 - Moody For Love
  59. March 1975 - Wear My Ring
  60. August 1975 - Who Loves You
  61. December 1975 - Oh What a Night!
  62. March 1976 - A Night In Wonderland
  63. June 1976 - Silver Star
  64. October 1976 - Daydream Maker
  65. January 1977 - Day and Night
  66. April 1977 - Cartoon Portrait
  67. August 1977 - Silly Silly
  68. March 1978 - Sunshine, Moonshine
  69. June 1978 - Season Is The Word
  70. October 1978 - Diamonds & Rubies
  71. February 1979 - Beginnings
  72. June 1979 - Mayonnaise Mayhem
  73. September 1979 - Love Cruise
  74. April 1980 - The Four Seasons 1980
  75. July 1980 - Lollipop Head
  76. October 1980 - Video Arcade
 

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Hmm interesting subject, hope you guys don't mind if I chime in.
I've always been familiar with the four seasons as my dad was a fan so I grew hearing them a lot on long car journeys
My mum was the Beatles fan which I'm sure in part at least explains my dads liking for most bands that were not the Beatles haha.
I like them both but always preferred the Rolling Stones tbh, they had a dirtier sound.

I think I would like to keep history as it is on this one as the Beatles were so influential if you made the four seasons the more influential band what would happen to all the bands I loved who came after the Beatles and whom the Beatles were a major influence on? Would they cease to exist in our timeline?
I've never been a fan of elvis but even if I had a time machine I wouldn't want to meddle with history and displace him from his spot as the King of Rock and roll.. I would prefer people recognised chuck berry as the real originator of rock and roll and true king of rock and roll.
But no elvis means no Beatles and no Beatles means no multitude of bands I've loved throughout the intervening decades.

Anyway you wouldn't have to kill either John Lennon or Paul McCartney you could simply attempt to prevent them from meeting. If what I've read is true their meeting was quite by happenstance and could have easily have not happened.. A little intervention by a time traveler could probably alter history here without to much effort.

I've also read that John lennon and Paul mcCartneys accounts of how they met conflict, maybe it's a simple case of one of them altering the facts slightly many years later to try and highlight their own importortance in the early history of the band.. Or could it be a convergence of two timelines converged by a time traveller who has already meddled with history.

Maybe there was a timeline where Lennon and McCartney never met, in that timeline the four seasons may be the most influential band of the 60s and maybe in the years after they were a major influence on a multitude of bands we've never known.

A time traveller could have intervened to orchestrate John Lennon and Paul mcCartneys first meeting anticipating the outcome of converging two timelines at that juncture.

It's food for thought
 

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