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Snow Fire Watches post Sep 29 2004, 04:30 PM
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Date: 02/17/04

[17:17] *** Now talking in #AlexanderTTSpeaks
[17:17] (@AlexanderTT): voice him
[17:17] (@GearBrains): hi hitman
[17:17] *** GearBrains sets mode: +v KPAX
[17:18] (+H1t|M4n): Hello
[17:18] (@AlexanderTT): hello KPAX
[17:18] -ChanServ- Usage: REGISTER <channel> <password> <description>
[17:18] -ChanServ- For help, /msg [email protected] HELP REGISTER
[17:18] (Thelper): that site is a joke site
[17:18] (Thelper): http://www.shomertec.com/page.cfm?Action=Catalog&variable;=67
[17:18] (Thelper): look at the stuff they sell
[17:18] (Thelper): why would law enforcers want sneezing power?
[17:18] (Thelper): and fart gas?
[17:18] (@AlexanderTT): yes all the pictures look hand drawn
[17:19] (Thelper): yep
[17:19] 12• 2• 1• ( 01#AlexanderTTSpeaks ) Logging into 01 ChanServ
[17:19] -ChanServ- The channel #AlexanderTTSpeaks is not registered.
[17:19] (@AlexanderTT): but noise of distraction is very real though
[17:19] (Thelper): and why would public have hellfire brimestone accesful?
[17:19] (@AlexanderTT): noise AS di..
[17:19] (Thelper): what is it anyway it dont describe it?
[17:19] (Thelper): makes me think it burns u like acid?
[17:20] (@AlexanderTT): this was very rare occurences though
[17:20] (@AlexanderTT): mostly when they attacked buildings
[17:20] (Thelper): more evidence
[17:20] (Thelper): http://www.shomertec.com/page.cfm?Action=Index&variable;=52
[17:20] (Thelper): look at the top pictures
[17:20] (Thelper): if they arnt drawn
[17:20] (Thelper): then im a bee
[17:21] (Thelper): notice the toning?
[17:21] (Thelper): its that of photoshop
[17:21] (@AlexanderTT): look at that, I guess that is "proof" then
[17:21] (@AlexanderTT): I guess KPAX is a lier, I am only showing him the same coutesy he showed me
[17:22] (exospire): lier
[17:22] (@AlexanderTT): look at my half-way assumption , yep he's a liar
[17:22] (exospire): One who lies down; one who rests or remains, as in concealment.
[17:22] (Thelper): perhaps he just actions before thinks, no need hostility
[17:22] (Thelper): make up
[17:22] (Thelper): grudges lead to wars
[17:22] (@AlexanderTT): i do not hold grudges Thelper, but I am still mad currently
[17:23] (@AlexanderTT): a liar is a very serious insult
[17:23] (Thelper): yes emotions sigh egos
[17:23] (+KPAX): poor lil puppy
[17:23] (Thelper): learn to confort them
[17:23] (Thelper): so may become more spiritually empowered
[17:23] * AlexanderTT barks
[17:23] (Thelper): as my time has
[17:23] (exospire): and im sure alex, you've never lied before
[17:23] (+KPAX): proof Alex Proof that is all we want
[17:23] (@AlexanderTT): i have , and I have withheld information also
[17:23] (Thelper): dont start fighting plz I can sense tension
[17:24] (exospire): i have no desire to fight, however i do desire proof as well
[17:24] (+KPAX): unlike you Alex i say something i back it up with proof
[17:24] (@AlexanderTT): you will have it KPAX , but I will not sacrifice myself and 11 other GOOD MEN for you or anybody
else!!!!!!!!!!
[17:24] (Thelper): Kpax that site is not proof thou
[17:24] (Thelper): sorry to say it is not even a real legit company
[17:24] (+KPAX): you will have it KPAX , but I will not sacrifice myself and 11 other GOOD MEN for you or anybody
else!!!!!!!!!!
[17:24] (+KPAX): [17:24] (Thelper): Kpax that site is not proof thou
[17:24] (@AlexanderTT): after it is safe, you will know all
[17:24] (exospire): when we will have this proof, alex?
[17:25] (exospire): will the proof be a video of your departure like JT promised?
[17:25] (@AlexanderTT): the proof will be everything I came with
[17:25] (@AlexanderTT): posted for all to see
[17:25] (@AlexanderTT): after I am gone
[17:25] (@AlexanderTT): and safe
[17:25] (+KPAX): that was a cop out alex
[17:26] (@AlexanderTT): and what is your reasoning for wanting proof?
[17:26] (exospire): how can you be sure the proof you leave us will be hard proof
[17:26] (+KPAX): you can give proof that does not endanger people if you are what you claim to be
[17:26] (+KPAX): videos can be doctored
[17:26] (@AlexanderTT): like what?
[17:26] (exospire): JT posted pictures of his machine, that is proof right alex?
[17:26] (@AlexanderTT): how can I prove that I am a TT and not be hunted down like a dog by you or your government
[17:27] (Thelper): I will take credit for the item
[17:27] (Thelper): and posting
[17:27] (+KPAX): photo of newspaper headline form the NY times 1 week from now
[17:27] (Thelper): as im not stationary
[17:27] (@AlexanderTT): im sorry kpax, forgot to get that before I left, anything else?
[17:27] (+KPAX): the original photo and negative is to be sent to Gavin
[17:27] (exospire): im going to sleep, goodbye
[17:27] *** Quits: exospire (Quit: )
[17:27] (Thelper): kpax why would he have
[17:27] (Thelper): a photo
[17:27] (@AlexanderTT): KPAX I cannot jump at will
[17:27] (Thelper): from before a nuclear war?
[17:27] (Thelper): logic plz
[17:28] (@AlexanderTT): the C404 is programmed
[17:28] (+KPAX): [17:27] (@AlexanderTT): im sorry kpax, forgot to get that before I left, anything else?
[17:28] (@AlexanderTT): not to mention the gravity signature must be there
[17:28] (+KPAX): got som,ething to say say it in front of every1
[17:28] (Thelper): that is called sarcasm, meaning he was in rush to avoid dieing
[17:28] (@AlexanderTT): i would love to but you banned me
[17:28] (Thelper): he wasnt thinking tha the need photo
[17:28] (Thelper): of newspaper
[17:28] (Thelper): before war
[17:28] (Thelper): in yr 2004
[17:28] (Thelper): when he was young lad
[17:29] (+KPAX): not from the forums
[17:29] (+KPAX): i don't have that power
[17:29] (@AlexanderTT): your forums are a waste of my time and you know it
[17:29] (@AlexanderTT): I need to interact in real time with you to truly learn about you
[17:29] (Thelper): true
[17:30] (+KPAX): so if your machine was pre-programmed how in god's good nane were you going to be able to transport me to
1870????? y
[17:30] (@AlexanderTT): your avoiding my question KPAX
[17:30] (Thelper): can tell so much about person from how they adress you
[17:30] (+KPAX): you have myu answer
[17:30] (@AlexanderTT): what do I have right now that would not bring harm to me that I can post?
[17:30] (Thelper): alexander ill post it for u
[17:30] (@AlexanderTT): KPAX, you were not going to go in my C404
[17:30] (Thelper): so that im one in trouble not you cuz im moving round alot
[17:31] (@AlexanderTT): 9 would have taken you
[17:31] (+KPAX): if you sent the pic to Gavin he would conmfirm its authenticity and no post it till after the date
[17:31] (@AlexanderTT): on my request as a friend, and guess what he has?
[17:31] (@AlexanderTT): how do I know that?
[17:31] (Thelper): alexander why would u take such hostile person to your time isnt that what was cleased them type ppl that
would rather fight than come peaceful resoltuion?
[17:31] (@AlexanderTT): you yourself has heard of how the forum was traced as a government site
[17:32] (@AlexanderTT): how do I know I can trust you or anyone else
[17:32] (@AlexanderTT): PROVE IT!!
[17:32] (+KPAX): grow up alex get out of the fantasy world you are living orf get to the nearest loony bin
[17:32] (+KPAX): you don't
[17:32] (@AlexanderTT): you are all potentionally my enemy
[17:32] (Thelper): only time will tell kpax i suggest u learn how to astral project
[17:32] (@AlexanderTT): I cant trust any of you
[17:33] (Thelper): find out about the truth to universe it not what u think it is
[17:33] (Thelper): you know when u die
[17:33] (Thelper): but then to late to learn in this life
[17:33] (+KPAX): yes i typed in an incorrect digit when trracing it that is how it came back to a govt agency
[17:33] (@AlexanderTT): then how did you screw up my ip?
[17:34] (+KPAX): you have masking s'ware
[17:34] (@AlexanderTT): i asure you I dont
[17:34] (+KPAX): i did'nt screw your ip up
[17:34] (+KPAX): liar
[17:34] (@AlexanderTT): my real IP starts with 66
[17:34] (+KPAX): 666 right
[17:34] (+KPAX): you liare
[17:34] (@AlexanderTT): it is a charter high speed ip address issued in gardendale alabama
[17:34] (+KPAX): liar
[17:35] (@AlexanderTT): I will even tell you the town I am closest too in alabama
[17:35] (@AlexanderTT): if you wish
[17:35] (+KPAX): you said there ware no passive weapons used in the civil war then you sa no sound waves but then you changed
your story ...why? because you were lying and you were caught
[17:35] (@AlexanderTT): look it up and try to find me, but you will not like it when you do
[17:36] (@AlexanderTT): i never said no sound waves
[17:36] (+KPAX): face it you are some dillusional mental case that needs urgen psychiatric evaluation
[17:36] (@AlexanderTT): passive weapons was not a name I had ever heard of before, someone said something about a rail gun
[17:36] (+KPAX): what is high pitched sound moron?
[17:36] (+KPAX): soujnd waves
[17:36] (@AlexanderTT): i never said sound waves were not used
[17:36] (@AlexanderTT): i never said sound waves were not used
[17:36] (@AlexanderTT): i never said sound waves were not used
[17:36] (Thelper): he might not of known this
[17:37] (@AlexanderTT): you misunderstand something and call it proof
[17:37] (Thelper): alex
[17:37] (Thelper): was it easy to come by
[17:37] (+KPAX): you have been cought because you don't know the bvasic physics of sound all sound emmitts a sound wave
[17:37] (Thelper): nightvsion
[17:37] (Thelper): gear
[17:37] (Thelper): ?
[17:37] (@AlexanderTT): yes
[17:37] (@GearBrains): ?
[17:37] (@AlexanderTT): and we emmitted the oppisite wave to cancel it out
[17:37] (Thelper): it was confusing talk thou it could meant sonic weapons
[17:37] (Thelper): like ones that kill
[17:37] (+KPAX): you don't understand basic physics yet you can operate and understand how TT works.....you are a liar
[17:38] (@AlexanderTT): i do not operate the C404, do you not listen at all?
[17:38] (Thelper): he is solider
[17:38] (@AlexanderTT): it is programmed
[17:38] (Thelper): does a cannon fodder know how his tank works?
[17:38] (+KPAX): toy soldier
[17:38] (Thelper): in ww2?
[17:38] (+KPAX): lol Thelper
[17:38] (Thelper): just knows how to use it
[17:38] (Thelper): that is it
[17:39] (@AlexanderTT): i do not press any buttons or turn it on, I am just there when it jumps
[17:39] (@AlexanderTT): i have explained this before
[17:39] (@AlexanderTT): if i am not there it does not jump
[17:40] (@AlexanderTT): if someone else tries to use it, it will destruct
[17:40] (@AlexanderTT): taking several city blocks with it
[17:40] (+KPAX): you have explained and explained but you have not backed a single thig you have said with any kind of proof
[17:40] (@AlexanderTT): i and wont untill january
[17:40] (+KPAX): at all
[17:40] (@AlexanderTT): but ny then it will already be obvious that I am telling the truth
[17:41] (+KPAX): when if you are to be believed will be too late for us to do anything
[17:41] (+KPAX): nice cop out
[17:41] (@AlexanderTT): do anything?
[17:41] (@AlexanderTT): what do expect to do?
[17:41] (@AlexanderTT): you cannot stop the war
[17:41] *** Joins: Link22 (~[email protected] )
[17:41] (@AlexanderTT): and even if you could I would not let you
[17:41] (@AlexanderTT): the war will be the greatest thing to happen to your society
[17:42] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD
[17:42] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD
[17:42] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD
[17:42] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD
[17:42] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD
[17:42] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD
[17:42] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD
[17:42] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD
[17:42] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD
[17:42] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD
[17:42] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD
[17:42] *** GearBrains sets mode: +v Link22
[17:42] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD
[17:42] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD
[17:42] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD
[17:42] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD
[17:42] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD
[17:42] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD
[17:42] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD
[17:42] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD
[17:42] (@AlexanderTT): the start of something so much better
[17:42] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD
[17:42] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD
[17:42] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD
[17:42] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD
[17:42] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD
[17:42] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD
[17:42] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD
[17:42] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD
[17:42] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD
[17:42] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD
[17:42] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD
[17:42] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD
[17:42] *** Disconnected
[17:42] * /msg: not connected to server (line 142, last.mrc)
[17:42] * /msg: not connected to server (line 142, last.mrc)
[17:42] (KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD
[17:42] * /msg: not connected to server (line 142, last.mrc)
[17:42] * /msg: not connected to server (line 142, last.mrc)
[17:42] * /msg: not connected to server (line 142, last.mrc)
[17:42] (KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD
[17:42] * /msg: not connected to server (line 142, last.mrc)
[17:43] *** Attempting to rejoin...
[17:43] *** Rejoined channel #AlexanderTTSpeaks
[17:43] *** GearBrains sets mode: +v KPAX
[17:43] (@AlexanderTT): you can help it by letting it take its natural cleansing that is already overdue
[17:43] -NickServ- Password accepted for KPAX .
[17:43] (@AlexanderTT): nature will correct itself
[17:44] (@AlexanderTT): who said it was punishment?
[17:44] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD AlexanderTT
[17:44] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD AlexanderTT
[17:44] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD AlexanderTT
[17:44] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD AlexanderTT
[17:44] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD AlexanderTT
[17:44] (@AlexanderTT): I dont think God flooded the earth again, did I say that?
[17:44] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD AlexanderTT
[17:44] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD AlexanderTT
[17:44] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD AlexanderTT
[17:44] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD AlexanderTT
[17:44] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD AlexanderTT
[17:44] (Thelper): KPAX
[17:44] (Thelper): are you 10?
[17:44] (@AlexanderTT): KPAX, is having his temper tandrum because he ran out of logic to back his claims up
[17:45] (Thelper): why such childish actions?
[17:45] *** Joins: Nvragnevr ([email protected] )
[17:45] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD AlexanderTT AND A MORON WITH NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN LIE
[17:45] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD AlexanderTT AND A MORON WITH NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN LIE
[17:45] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD AlexanderTT AND A MORON WITH NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN LIE
[17:45] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD AlexanderTT AND A MORON WITH NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN LIE
[17:45] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD AlexanderTT AND A MORON WITH NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN LIE
[17:45] (+KPAX): YOU ARE A FRAUD AlexanderTT AND A MORON WITH NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN LIE
[17:45] *** GearBrains sets mode: +v Nvragnevr
[17:45] (Nvragnevr): i got it
[17:45] (Thelper): you have seen with own eyes that this world is headed downhill
[17:45] (Thelper): cant you see it?
[17:45] (+KPAX): HI Nvragnevr
[17:45] (+KPAX): NOW YOUFOR IT
[17:45] (@GearBrains): kpax please calm down
[17:45] (Thelper): funny thing is this when bombs are droping kpax will regret way he acted
[17:45] (+KPAX): i am quite calm
[17:45] (@AlexanderTT): KPAX, have you lost your manners?
[17:45] (Thelper): oh well let him wait his 5 yrx
[17:45] (Thelper): till he c himself
[17:46] -H1t|M4n- relax for a second let Nvragnevr speak to him
[17:46] (+KPAX): no i am calling you what i believe you are
[17:46] (@AlexanderTT): yes it looks like you are calm
[17:46] (@AlexanderTT): yes over and over
[17:46] (@AlexanderTT): one time is sufficient
[17:46] (@AlexanderTT): I know the exact date
[17:46] (@AlexanderTT): early 2005
[17:46] -> -H1t|M4n - (private) ok
[17:46] (Thelper): dont woryr about that just say yr
[17:46] (Thelper): yes
[17:46] (Thelper): next yr
[17:47] (@AlexanderTT): no
[17:47] (Thelper): that should be close enough
[17:47] (Thelper): think about this what would make them instate it?
[17:47] (Thelper): "another terrorist attck?"
[17:47] (@AlexanderTT): by december 2004 your country will be en-gulfed with hatred for the two sides that are already
emerging
[17:47] (Thelper): ?I can vouch for this
[17:47] (Thelper): i seen ppl agrueing
[17:47] (Thelper): in polictical rooms
[17:48] (Thelper): over elections
[17:48] (Thelper): etc
[17:48] (@AlexanderTT): people will be killed in the streets by there fellow neighbor
[17:48] (Thelper): to point of hostile vocalizations
[17:48] (@AlexanderTT): things will be out of control
[17:48] (Thelper): here in australia 1 death from a person
[17:48] (Thelper): created a riot
[17:48] (@AlexanderTT): all reserves will be calle up and a draft will be used later on
[17:48] (Thelper): it was on the news
[17:48] (Thelper): they got it undercontrol but they hurt alot of police
[17:49] (Thelper): before they stoped the town
[17:49] (@AlexanderTT): trust me, your miltary is larger than you think
[17:49] (@AlexanderTT): and they do not occupy small towns
[17:49] (@AlexanderTT): just city's
[17:49] (+KPAX): AlexanderTT tell us something we don't know for a change
[17:49] (Thelper): Im glad im in australia at least we dont get major effects to later
[17:49] (@AlexanderTT): Link22, many will not go to the draft
[17:50] (Nvragnevr): im in it
[17:50] (@AlexanderTT): i am KPAX, thus= answering questions
[17:50] -> -Thelper - (private) our military is bigger that they tell us i is commn knowledge
[17:50] (Thelper): if you know this
[17:51] (Thelper): then how it not hard believe they will instate martial law
[17:51] (Nvragnevr): ok, H1, im here
[17:51] (Nvragnevr): who is it?
[17:51] (Thelper): have you seen the movie where ppl riot cuz martial law was instated?
[17:51] (@AlexanderTT): Link22, then you will be one who defects to the peoples side
[17:51] (+KPAX): AlexanderTT
[17:51] (Nvragnevr): H1, who?
[17:51] (Thelper): this is true ppl can not live under such strict laws if they lived all there lifes as free in there eyes
but not realyl
[17:51] -> -Nvragnevr - (private) the claimed Tiem traveller is Aleander TT
[17:51] (+KPAX): time
[17:52] (Nvragnevr): ok, alexTT, H1 wants me to speak with you
[17:52] (Thelper): link that is your ego
[17:52] (Nvragnevr): he felt my background might be such that you could have an intelligent technical chat
[17:52] (Thelper): ignore it
[17:52] (@AlexanderTT): I will speak with anyone
[17:52] (Nvragnevr): i understand
[17:52] (Thelper): thinking someone of importance is your ego
[17:52] (Thelper): do not think that way
[17:52] (Nvragnevr): what is your technical background?
[17:52] (Thelper): ego is what youre thinkg it is
[17:52] (@AlexanderTT): technical background?
[17:52] (Thelper): link22 learn to project and learn more a bout who you truely are face your egos
[17:52] (Nvragnevr): engineering?
[17:53] (@AlexanderTT): do you mean specialty if I have one?
[17:53] (Nvragnevr): physics?
[17:53] (Nvragnevr): math?
[17:53] (Nvragnevr): biosciences?
[17:53] (Thelper): if you think it something like
[17:53] (@AlexanderTT): none
[17:53] (Thelper): "will i be known" whaty is fame why do you want this?
[17:53] (Nvragnevr): you claim to be from the future?
[17:53] (@AlexanderTT): I did not go to school, I was busy fighting a wat
[17:53] (@AlexanderTT): war
[17:53] -> -H1t|M4n - (private) got him on te back foot already lol
[17:53] (Thelper): fame is nothing we are all important as each are
[17:53] (Nvragnevr): alex...you claim to be from the future?
[17:53] -H1t|M4n- HaHa yeah
[17:54] (Thelper): link22 learn astral projectiong
[17:54] (Thelper): then you wont trhink this
[17:54] (Thelper): you can find outy for yourself
[17:54] (@AlexanderTT): I am from my present, it is vary similar to what will be of your future
[17:54] (Thelper): go into the other dimension seek yourself true answers
[17:54] (Nvragnevr): im an engineer, physicist, and mathematician...as well as an applied bioscientist...if you are for real,
convince me
[17:54] (Nvragnevr): discuss specifics, please
[17:54] -> -GearBrains,H1t|M4n,Link22,Nvragnevr,Thelper - . i hope you are logging this
[17:54] (@AlexanderTT): Nvragnevr, can you help me with some math I have been wanting to figure out?
[17:55] (Thelper): all are meaningless just titles to this life
[17:55] (Nvragnevr): specific year, your age, general work background
[17:55] (Thelper): your trueself is spirit
[17:55] (Nvragnevr): alex, if youre a child, please admit it
[17:55] -H1t|M4n- i am now
[17:55] *** Joins: Opmmur ([email protected] )
[17:55] (Nvragnevr): so we can go on with some otherwise intelligent technical discussion
[17:55] *** GearBrains sets mode: +v Opmmur
[17:55] (Nvragnevr): otherwise, explain your background, please
[17:55] (@AlexanderTT): answer my question Nvragnevr
[17:56] (Nvragnevr): certainly, if you wish
[17:56] (Nvragnevr): explain whatever math problem you like
[17:56] (+Opmmur): Hi
[17:56] (Nvragnevr): hi, opmmur
[17:56] (@AlexanderTT): my background is in military tactics, I grew up in a war
[17:56] (Thelper): I do nto see why someone would claim suchs things when the result could be ppl take actions of there
words, this is only a evil person that would decieve in such away I do not believe him as evil
[17:56] (Nvragnevr): what year?
[17:56] (Nvragnevr): be specific
[17:56] (@AlexanderTT): i need help with a potential problem with my VGL Nvragnevr
[17:56] (Nvragnevr): if youre going to claim such a thing, state the year
[17:56] (@AlexanderTT): 2039
[17:56] (Nvragnevr): ok, fine
[17:56] (Nvragnevr): VGL?
[17:57] (Nvragnevr): im listening...go on
[17:57] (@AlexanderTT): Variable Gravity Locking system
[17:57] (Nvragnevr): im listening
[17:57] (Nvragnevr): but first
[17:57] (@AlexanderTT): i need you to solve a problem with divergence
[17:57] (Nvragnevr): and i want you to hear what im asking you clearly, please
[17:57] (Nvragnevr): fine
[17:57] (Nvragnevr): no problem
[17:57] (@AlexanderTT): ok
[17:57] (@AlexanderTT): im listening
[17:57] (Nvragnevr): first, i want some concrete evidence of your background
[17:58] (Nvragnevr): about the conventional
[17:58] (Nvragnevr): state how much physics youve had
[17:58] (Nvragnevr): explicitly
[17:58] (Nvragnevr): conventional
[17:58] (Nvragnevr): modern
[17:58] (Nvragnevr): quantum
[17:58] (Nvragnevr): statistical
[17:58] (Nvragnevr): classical dynamics
[17:58] (Nvragnevr): hamiltonian and lagrangian dynamics
[17:58] (Nvragnevr): particle physics
[17:58] (@AlexanderTT): no formal physics training
[17:58] (@AlexanderTT): it is not my job
[17:58] (Nvragnevr): youre not convincing me
[17:58] (Thelper): he a soldiers
[17:59] (Nvragnevr): and i would greatly appreciate not engagein nonsense
[17:59] -> -H1t|M4n - (private) ooops
[17:59] (@AlexanderTT): i am not trying to, but you wish to ask me questions
[17:59] (Nvragnevr): if youre a soldier, explain some aspects of the basic principles of warfare
[17:59] (@AlexanderTT): i have information, that would be in your area though
[17:59] (Nvragnevr): fine
[17:59] (Nvragnevr): im listening
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[18:00] (Nvragnevr): what are the actual principles of warfare, the classical ones?
[18:00] (Nvragnevr): found in any good military text
[18:00] -> -H1t|M4n - (private) Frasier? I'm listening.....lol
[18:00] (@AlexanderTT): not to be posted as of yet, but I might enjoy private conversations, where I could post some
equations I do not understand
[18:00] (Nvragnevr): ok, listen to me
[18:00] (@AlexanderTT): military text? like san tsu?
[18:00] (Nvragnevr): i am amenable to any serious technical discussion
[18:00] (Nvragnevr): no
[18:01] (Nvragnevr): terrain, counterforce, mobility
[18:01] (@AlexanderTT): i have had no formal education Nvragnevr
[18:01] (Nvragnevr): related topics
[18:01] (@AlexanderTT): oh i see
[18:01] (Nvragnevr): alex, you are not being very convincing
[18:01] (@AlexanderTT): what do you want to know about tactics when fighting the US military on there home ground, I can tell
you of those things
[18:01] (Nvragnevr): i wat your age please
[18:01] (@AlexanderTT): 39
[18:01] (Nvragnevr): that i do not wish to discuss
[18:02] -> -H1t|M4n - (private) get him to ask about stripping a AK47 in the field
[18:02] (Nvragnevr): im curious as to your conventional education, only
[18:02] (Nvragnevr): nothing more
[18:02] (@AlexanderTT): i am not and never have tried to be convincing
[18:02] (Nvragnevr): alex, listen to me
[18:02] (@AlexanderTT): i have studied on my own time at fort UA
[18:02] (Nvragnevr): i have been around a lot of serious science
[18:02] (Nvragnevr): for a very long time
[18:02] (@AlexanderTT): you know it as University of Alabama
[18:03] (Nvragnevr): if youre for real, i want specifics, if you intend to convince me, please
[18:03] (@AlexanderTT): specifics of what?
[18:03] (Nvragnevr): i do not merely want you throwing out odd fragments of terminology about divergence, please
[18:03] (@AlexanderTT): Link22, we dont do that kind of traveling
[18:03] -> -H1t|M4n - (private) originally he said he was hanging aroound fort UF for memory
[18:04] (Nvragnevr): for example
[18:04] (Nvragnevr): do you even know what divergence actually is, mathematically?
[18:04] (@AlexanderTT): i will tell you what I know, and I will try to look up what I dont know
[18:04] (Nvragnevr): do you or not?
[18:04] (@AlexanderTT): yes
[18:04] (@AlexanderTT): how far away
[18:04] (Nvragnevr): explain in terms of vector operations, please
[18:04] (Nvragnevr): and relate that to curl, and gradient
[18:05] (Nvragnevr): and how those three relate to a vector field, please
[18:05] (@AlexanderTT): Nvragnevr, i am afraid I am not the math wiz you hoped for
[18:05] (Thelper): lol
[18:05] (Nvragnevr): youre not encouraging me, alex
[18:05] (Thelper): he spent most his live in a war
[18:05] (Nvragnevr): H1, opmmur, do you understand my point now?
[18:06] (+H1t|M4n): Yes
[18:06] (@AlexanderTT): please you must understand, my situation, and we must talk so that I can understand, I am quite dumb
compared to you
[18:06] -> -Thelper - (private) stop making excuses for alex and let the scientist ask him questions
[18:06] (Thelper): I doubt he had time to studie normal maths let alone applied
[18:06] (Nvragnevr): ok...opmmur, do you see my point also?
[18:06] (Thelper): just pointing out obvious kpax
[18:06] (@AlexanderTT): Nvragnevr, I never had an education as you had
[18:06] (Nvragnevr): alex...please listen to me
[18:07] (Nvragnevr): and the rest of you also
[18:07] (@AlexanderTT): and physics was the last thing on our mind while fighting in the wilderness
[18:07] -> -Thelper - (private) it is better to let alex hang himself
[18:07] (Nvragnevr): and please, for once, nobody yak in here, ok?\
[18:07] (Nvragnevr): i have spent a lot of time, around real scientists, doing real science
[18:07] (@AlexanderTT): i will give you that respect if you return it
[18:07] (Nvragnevr): fine, i hear you alex
[18:07] (Nvragnevr): if you claim to have an actual device, or know of one, i am waiting for specifics
[18:08] (@AlexanderTT): i will tell you all that I know
[18:08] (Nvragnevr): i have worked in electrophysics and signal processing for many years...also medical instrumntation
[18:08] (Nvragnevr): i hold a double b\BS, triple MS, in engineeringh physics, math, and the biosciences
[18:08] (Nvragnevr): i am for real
[18:08] (Nvragnevr): if you have serious topics to discuss, i will listen seriously
[18:08] (Nvragnevr): however
[18:08] (Nvragnevr): i will not listen to total nonsense
[18:09] (Nvragnevr): completely unsubstantiated
[18:09] (Nvragnevr): now
[18:09] (@AlexanderTT): Nvragnevr, are you aware of gravity and time being connected?
[18:09] (Nvragnevr): if you have serious technical aspects to discuss
[18:09] (Nvragnevr): please get about it
[18:09] (Nvragnevr): im waiting
[18:09] (Nvragnevr): well?
[18:09] (@AlexanderTT): what do you want to know
[18:09] -> -H1t|M4n - (private) i love this
[18:09] (Nvragnevr): in what sense are you referring to?
[18:10] (@AlexanderTT): gravity is not a force, it is part of the 4th dimension, you call this space-time
[18:10] (Nvragnevr): that is just stupid, alex
[18:10] (@AlexanderTT): ever wondered if you could go through a black hole
[18:10] (Thelper): nvr
[18:10] (Nvragnevr): lets get back to some real basics here
[18:10] (@AlexanderTT): I can explain how you can
[18:10] (Thelper): do you even know of the 5th dimention?
[18:10] (Nvragnevr): i understand, Thelper
[18:10] (Nvragnevr): i hear you
[18:10] (Nvragnevr): first
[18:11] (Nvragnevr): do any of you even know the difference between general and special relativity?
[18:11] (Nvragnevr): do any of you even know who lorentz was?
[18:11] (Nvragnevr): what what the lorentz transformation is?
[18:11] (Thelper): pysics are wrong this will be found out in late future
[18:11] (@AlexanderTT): general relativity applies the rule of not being able to travel faster than light
[18:11] (Nvragnevr): or what riemannian space time actually implies?
[18:11] (Nvragnevr): no, alex
[18:12] (Nvragnevr): special relativity defines that
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[18:12] (Nvragnevr): not general
[18:12] (@AlexanderTT): i have the lorentz transformation
[18:12] (@AlexanderTT): its in my manual
[18:12] (Thelper): I know what happens when you die, and I know you would only believe me when you die yourself so ill wait
to then then contact your in your new home
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[18:12] (Nvragnevr): and before you go into such things
[18:12] (Nvragnevr): how much electromagnetics do any of you know?
[18:12] (Nvragnevr): because
[18:12] (Thelper): nvr I can tavel at the speed of light
[18:12] (Thelper): already
[18:12] (Nvragnevr): before you can even discuss relativity intelligently
[18:12] (Thelper): and so can you
[18:13] (Nvragnevr): that is absolutely requisite
[18:13] (Nvragnevr): Thelper, please do not waste my time with nonsense
[18:13] (Thelper): yes wait till you die
[18:13] (@AlexanderTT): Nvragnevr, relativity forbids time travel
[18:13] (Thelper): then we see who right k?
[18:13] (Nvragnevr): if you wish to have an intelligent discussion about the soul, i am willing
[18:13] (Nvragnevr): but
[18:14] (@AlexanderTT): thats like saying newton applies to quantum mechanics
[18:14] (Nvragnevr): you are speaking with no knowledge, and in total ignorance of relevant physics
[18:14] (Nvragnevr): now
[18:14] (Thelper): I can but ill let you talk to alex
[18:14] (Nvragnevr): if you want me explain my views, i will
[18:14] (@AlexanderTT): yes, and I have admitted I have no formal traning in these matters
[18:14] (Thelper): physics are wrong this is what is holding you back
[18:14] (Thelper): you will learn this in future
[18:14] (Nvragnevr): Thelper, that is absurd, and childish
[18:14] (@AlexanderTT): explain your views Nvragnevr, I am listening
[18:15] (@AlexanderTT): it might sound familier to me
[18:15] (@AlexanderTT): please
[18:15] (Nvragnevr): you want me to change topics?
[18:15] (@AlexanderTT): explain your views on science behind time travel, is it possible and how?
[18:16] (Nvragnevr): there are serious aspects of time reversal that do occur routinely in physics and engineering
[18:16] (Nvragnevr): albeit not for such spectacular reasons
[18:16] (Nvragnevr): generally
[18:16] (Nvragnevr): time reversal occurs due due to complex conjugacy
[18:17] (Nvragnevr): which requires a fair level of complex variable theory to follow
[18:17] (@AlexanderTT): no you are already starting out wrong, I DID NOT TRULY TRAVEL TIME, I traveled to your worldline
which is behind us in relation to our current calender
[18:17] (Nvragnevr): alex, cut the nonsense, ok?
[18:17] (Nvragnevr): please
[18:17] (@AlexanderTT): wew cannot travel through time literally
[18:17] (Nvragnevr): if you want a serious discussion, i will have one
[18:17] (Nvragnevr): however
[18:17] (@AlexanderTT): go on
[18:17] (Nvragnevr): i will not listen to that sort of BS, ok?
[18:18] (Nvragnevr): yes?
[18:18] (Nvragnevr): YES?
[18:18] (Nvragnevr): im waiting, alex
[18:18] (@AlexanderTT): i am just pointing out that you assumed I traveled the same time line backwards
[18:18] (Nvragnevr): alex, stop bandying terminology you clearly do not understand, ok?
[18:18] (@AlexanderTT): that is not possible
[18:18] (Nvragnevr): please
[18:18] (Nvragnevr): now
[18:19] (Nvragnevr): an example of time reversal in physics, occurs in convolution
[18:19] (Nvragnevr): and the concept of an impuslse response
[18:19] -> -H1t|M4n - (private) fraud as i hve said you friend is brilliant
[18:19] (Nvragnevr): one speaks of an impuse response being convolved with a time function
[18:19] (Nvragnevr): however
[18:20] (Nvragnevr): physicslly, one passes over the other time reversed
[18:20] (Nvragnevr): which is standard physics
[18:20] (Nvragnevr): next
[18:20] (Nvragnevr): there is such a thing as an an adjoint operator
[18:20] (Nvragnevr): in hamiltonian physics
[18:20] (Nvragnevr): arising also in quantum mechanics
[18:21] (Nvragnevr): which involves the complex conjugate of the transpose of the elements of a matrix
[18:21] (Nvragnevr): that is very real, and does occur
[18:21] (Nvragnevr): the reason time reversal often occurs in physics, is that normally, time solutions tent to be harmonic
[18:21] -H1t|M4n- Nvragnevr is so smart hes nuts trust me on this,I have spent time talking to him on aim,hes a head case but
he knows what hes talking about man
[18:21] (Nvragnevr): sinusoidal
[18:21] (Nvragnevr): and thus exponential
[18:22] (@AlexanderTT): sounds familier
[18:22] (Nvragnevr): solutions fo differential equations often involve solving for eigenvalues
[18:22] -> -H1t|M4n - (private) I love him ....in a respectful way
[18:22] -H1t|M4n- I hear ya
[18:22] (Nvragnevr): those eigenvalues are often complex conjugates of one another, reflections in time or position
[18:22] (Nvragnevr): an example occurs in cojugate optics
[18:23] (Nvragnevr): especially in holographic generation
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[18:23] (Nvragnevr): Fourier optics also uses that feature constantly
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[18:23] (Nvragnevr): i trust i am making my point?
[18:23] -> -H1t|M4n - (private) sounds familliar ...Alex has no idea what he is talking about ...and frankly neither do i but
it is great stuff
[18:23] (Nvragnevr): now
[18:23] (Nvragnevr): if you want serious, i will be serious
[18:24] (@AlexanderTT): you have not adressed anything that applies to the science that got me here
[18:24] (Nvragnevr): when you even remotely understand those concepts, come and talk to me
[18:24] (@AlexanderTT): you think of your universe as just that uni
[18:24] (+KPAX): and that was all she wrote
[18:24] (+KPAX): ROFL
[18:24] (Nvragnevr): your science, if real, is based on that level of knowledge
[18:24] (Nvragnevr): understand it, have an intelligent discussion about it
[18:25] (@AlexanderTT): yes I can copy and paste too KPAX, even if it doesnt apply
[18:25] (Nvragnevr): and MAYBE i MIGHT believe you
[18:25] -H1t|M4n- you hear that,and hes saying that,that was just light stuff he was talking about [Qoute:<Nvragnevr> if you
want serious, i will be serious] He ain't even gotten started yet HaHa
[18:25] (Nvragnevr): till then what you are saying is total BS
[18:25] (@AlexanderTT): Nvragnevr, you do not want to have a conversation you just wanted to copy and paste those messages
and then leave
[18:25] (Nvragnevr): do i make myself clear?
[18:25] (@AlexanderTT): calling that proof
[18:25] (Nvragnevr): if you have technical details, present them
[18:25] (@AlexanderTT): you will not address my questions or comments, you call it BS
[18:25] (catman1): hello Alex
[18:25] (Nvragnevr): i will listen
[18:26] (Nvragnevr): im listening
[18:26] (Nvragnevr): explain
[18:26] -> -AlexanderTT - (private) Hey moron this guy is a ligitiamat scientist who is proving you to be a fake with every
sentence
[18:26] (@AlexanderTT): are you aware of the theories behind event horizons?
[18:26] (Nvragnevr): certainly
[18:26] (Nvragnevr): relate those to your device please
[18:26] (@AlexanderTT): first your views on why we cannot enter them, if you please, and I'll explain why you can
[18:27] -H1t|M4n- HaHa
[18:27] * GearBrains feels like Jethro Bodine at a Einstein convention!
[18:27] (Thelper): kpax that proves nothing, as he stated most you think that there only oner universe/dimention but this is
wrong when you die you transcend to the 5th dimention which is made of many plains "you ppl are correct it is 7 plains" from
my knowledge astral projection is your other body tuning into this to actually gain access to the plain you must fist meet
your egos these are negative thoughts that your physical body possesses, they may even manife
[18:27] -H1t|M4n- man i see why he was kicked outa the channel now man damn
[18:27] (@AlexanderTT): Thelper I appreciate the help but wait untill later to comment, thank you
[18:27] (Nvragnevr): first, the concept of a wormhole does arise at extremely high energies, that cannot be duplicated here
[18:27] (@AlexanderTT): no not wormhole
[18:28] (@AlexanderTT): event horizon of a black hole
[18:28] (Thelper): as I said link22 I do not speak with a togue in my time
[18:28] (Nvragnevr): for what you are describing to occur would require at least fusion power...minimum
[18:28] (Thelper): im onyl learning english now as it is necessary
[18:28] (@AlexanderTT): you have yet to address the simple matter of being stretched to infinity as aproachin it
[18:28] (Nvragnevr): that is nonsense...i fully understand the concept of event horizon of a black hole
[18:28] (Nvragnevr): and they cannot be duplicated here
[18:28] (@AlexanderTT): then why can you not enter one?
[18:29] (@AlexanderTT): i will explain why you can after you explain why you cannot
[18:29] (Nvragnevr): are you referring to divergence again?
[18:29] (@AlexanderTT): no
[18:29] (Nvragnevr): then what?
[18:29] (Nvragnevr): i have a limit to my astrophysics, i have done a fair amount of particle physics
[18:29] (Nvragnevr): up through cross section
[18:29] (Nvragnevr): mandelstam variables
[18:30] (Nvragnevr): the dirac equation
[18:30] (@AlexanderTT): i am referring to having infinite difference between gravity pull in front of you and behind you as
you approach the horizon
[18:30] -> -Thelper - (private) you believe alex...stick around a see Alex be pulled apart like an old motor
[18:30] (Nvragnevr): ok, i follow
[18:30] (@AlexanderTT): ok
[18:30] (@AlexanderTT): lets move on to why this would not be a problem
[18:30] (Nvragnevr): as i understood the matter, a black hole is a singularity
[18:31] (@AlexanderTT): yes, but we have not reached the singularity yet, we are apraoching
[18:31] (Nvragnevr): where graviational field lines diverge
[18:31] (Nvragnevr): i want you to please relate that to explicit technology
[18:31] (Nvragnevr): if you know explicit technology, discuss it
[18:31] (@AlexanderTT): the singularity lies beyond the event horizon, where not even light can come back
[18:31] (@AlexanderTT): do you follow
[18:32] (Nvragnevr): obviously , i follow
[18:32] (Nvragnevr): i want you to relate that to specific technology
[18:32] (Nvragnevr): the level of power required, let along the energy levels, would require controlled fusion
[18:32] (Nvragnevr): on a tokamak level
[18:33] (@AlexanderTT): you have not created an artificial black hole yet
[18:33] (Nvragnevr): discuss the specifics of your technology NOW, please
[18:33] (@AlexanderTT): i am speaking of natural black holes and your current understanding of them
[18:33] -> -Thelper - You are now being ignored
[18:33] (Nvragnevr): i have a reasonable grasp of the concept
[18:33] (Nvragnevr): please relate that to you technology
[18:34] (Nvragnevr): if you are for real, relate that to an explicit device, please
[18:34] (@AlexanderTT): as you aproach the event horizon the force of gravity would be enough to stretch you out almost
infinitely, this is not a problem due to the fact that gravityies force os so strong it breaks down the laws of physics,
allowing you to be strectched
[18:34] (Nvragnevr): i am not a happy camper, alex
[18:35] (Nvragnevr): i want specifics
[18:35] (@AlexanderTT): now lets continue ,I promise to get to the C404 in a minute
[18:35] (Nvragnevr): now, please
[18:35] (Nvragnevr): im waiting, alex
[18:35] (@AlexanderTT): a kerr black hole is a man made concept, CERN laboratories right now are trying to develop these
[18:36] (Nvragnevr): ive heard
[18:36] (Nvragnevr): but that is not correct either
[18:36] (Nvragnevr): but ill let that pass for now
[18:36] (Nvragnevr): i want specifics about technology, please
[18:37] (@AlexanderTT): in a kerr black hole the singularity would be what ever is inside the event horizon, and the gravity
forces could be controlled on the outside (not sucking the world in) by another kerr black hole being used to contain the
event horizon
[18:37] (Nvragnevr): first
[18:37] (@AlexanderTT): do you follow or should I eleborate
[18:37] (Nvragnevr): if you are claiming that level of physics
[18:37] (Nvragnevr): you cannot do so legitimately without some basic knowledge of the standard model
[18:38] (Nvragnevr): or of quantum mechanics
[18:38] (@AlexanderTT): i am expliaing what was told to me Nvragnevr, IN lay-mans terms
[18:38] (Nvragnevr): or string theoretic concepts
[18:38] (+KPAX): gotcha!
[18:38] (Nvragnevr): i want specifics as to technology
[18:38] (Nvragnevr): for example
[18:39] (Nvragnevr): what is a tensor?
[18:39] (Nvragnevr): and how does it differ from a matrix?
[18:39] (@AlexanderTT): specifics? the applied concepts is in the C404 sitting about one hundred yards from me right now
[18:39] (Nvragnevr): i am waiting eagerly for you to explain the term C404
[18:39] (@AlexanderTT): tensor, the vibration of strings ?
[18:39] (Nvragnevr): i meant the mathematical operation
[18:39] (@AlexanderTT): i have those too
[18:40] (@AlexanderTT): but it is hard to post them in here
[18:40] (Nvragnevr): i am waiting for a description of the term C404, alex
[18:40] (@AlexanderTT): i have the equations that you seek
[18:40] (Nvragnevr): i am not asking you for equations
[18:40] (@AlexanderTT): the C404 is the dual micro-singularity generator that got me here
[18:40] (Nvragnevr): describe
[18:40] (Nvragnevr): more
[18:40] (Nvragnevr): power source
[18:40] (Nvragnevr): hardware
[18:41] (Nvragnevr): software
[18:41] (Nvragnevr): all of it
[18:41] (@AlexanderTT): one at a time please
[18:41] (Nvragnevr): go
[18:41] (Nvragnevr): im waiting
[18:42] (@AlexanderTT): hydrogen fuel cell that charges, what you would call a battery to make jumps. it takes a lot of
energy to create the micro-singularities
[18:42] (Nvragnevr): thats physically impossible, alex
[18:42] -> -Nvragnevr - (private) Excuse me , what amazes me is that you are talking to a guy who claims to be aTime
Traveller about the physics of Time Travel and he can' t even understand the basic physics of sound
[18:42] (@AlexanderTT): explain
[18:42] (Nvragnevr): i folloy understand, kpax
[18:42] (Nvragnevr): i hear you, kpax
[18:42] (@AlexanderTT): eplain why impossible
[18:43] (@AlexanderTT): you will eat your words when you read the technical manual, but then again maybe I understand the
technology wrong
[18:43] (Nvragnevr): the level of energy needed to even examine the quark-level gluon model would require a fusion power
source, minimum
[18:44] (Nvragnevr): let alone use such particle physics to generate the singularity you describe
[18:44] (@AlexanderTT): ah! but my hydrogen fuel cell is better than you think
[18:44] (Nvragnevr): alex, BS
[18:44] (@AlexanderTT): no BS
[18:44] (Nvragnevr): no hydrogen fuel cell generates that much power
[18:44] (@AlexanderTT): i could power a town with it
[18:44] (@AlexanderTT): they do in 30 years
[18:44] (Nvragnevr): thats a different matter
[18:45] (Nvragnevr): you are speaking of time travel, alex
[18:45] (@AlexanderTT): and it does not generate it all at once, it constantly charges the C404
[18:45] (Nvragnevr): not conventional power
[18:45] (Nvragnevr): alex...please do not insult my intelligence
[18:45] (bill300000): Please post us a diagram of that hydrogen fuel cell and the manual
[18:45] (@AlexanderTT): fussion is no longer used, we have enough radiation already
[18:46] (+Opmmur): Yes WE have in the US Gov. hydrogen fuel cell generateing that much power
[18:46] (@AlexanderTT): yes for homes
[18:46] -> -Nvragnevr - (private) Keep going though...nut by nut ,bolt by bolt....LOL
[18:46] (@AlexanderTT): the size of a vcr, opmmur?
[18:46] (Nvragnevr): alex, listen to me
[18:46] (Nvragnevr): what you are describing would require power in the terawatt range
[18:47] (@AlexanderTT): initially yes
[18:47] (@AlexanderTT): just to start it
[18:47] (Nvragnevr): alex, please...give me a break, ok?
[18:47] (@AlexanderTT): after started it can run off of very little power
[18:47] (Nvragnevr): alex...listen to me
[18:48] (@AlexanderTT): Nvragnevr, let me ask you something, can you contain the power of lightning?
[18:48] (Nvragnevr): i am fascinated by anecdotes i have heard of time travel
[18:48] (@AlexanderTT): can you catch it or generate the same amount of power?
[18:48] (Nvragnevr): and by serious discussions on fusion power
[18:48] (Nvragnevr): but it does not exist yet
[18:49] (Nvragnevr): and lightning has nothing to do with this
[18:49] (@AlexanderTT): no it doesnt, it exists in 2017 though
[18:49] (Nvragnevr): alex, please stop it
[18:49] (+Opmmur): Thelper Please stay out of it!
[18:49] (Nvragnevr): you are not from the future
[18:49] (Nvragnevr): you are not a soldier
[18:49] * GearBrains asks please dont interrupt yet-q & a to follow (i hope)
[18:49] (Nvragnevr): and this is total garbage
[18:49] (@AlexanderTT): Nvragnevr, we can create enough power to cause lightning
[18:50] (Nvragnevr): alex, i will not stray into irrelevancies
[18:50] (Nvragnevr): if you wish to change topics, i have certain views on that
[18:50] (@AlexanderTT): Nvragnevr, if you truly wish to have a conversation, I will try to expain how we do what we do , when
traveling worldline, but you just shut down my agruments thinking them impossible with your current technology
[18:51] (Nvragnevr): do you know how much software would be required to control a power source of the type you describe,
alex?
[18:51] (Nvragnevr): if it even existed?
[18:52] (Nvragnevr): i am a real engineer, alex, i was trained by professionals, and worked with very serious people
[18:52] (Nvragnevr): this is total nonsense
[18:52] (@AlexanderTT): Nvragnevr, do you know what my GPS alone is capable of?
[18:52] (@AlexanderTT): we have organic processors
[18:52] (Nvragnevr): alex, please do not change topics
[18:52] (@AlexanderTT): your computers look like calculaters
[18:52] (@AlexanderTT): i didnt you did
[18:52] (Nvragnevr): if you want a serious discussion of physics, i am willing
[18:53] (Nvragnevr): i will not, however, discuss nonsense
[18:53] (@AlexanderTT): your computer technology alone, is holding you back from making VGL's
[18:53] (Nvragnevr): guys, i think weve heard enough...yes?
[18:53] (@AlexanderTT): i am still waiting for a conversation and not one sided views
[18:54] (@AlexanderTT): you think it is not possible because you can not do it NOW
[18:54] (Nvragnevr): alex...how much electronics do you actually know?
[18:54] (Nvragnevr): or mathematical physics?
[18:54] (@AlexanderTT): for gods sake man, we will be on mars next year, my time
[18:54] (Nvragnevr): if i even mention basic terminology, would you even follow?
[18:55] (Nvragnevr): no one is going to mars, alex
[18:55] (@AlexanderTT): i will follow you with what I know
[18:55] (@AlexanderTT): i will try to explain to you how we travel, the technology behind it, but you must listen and forget
your current level of technology
[18:55] (Nvragnevr): fine, what is a determinant? how does one calculate the inverse of eigenvectors of a matrix?
[18:56] (Nvragnevr): what is a residue in complex variable theory, and how does it arise?
[18:56] (@AlexanderTT): once again, I do not know these things, I did not make the C404
[18:56] (Nvragnevr): sorry, the inverse, or eigenvectors
[18:56] (Nvragnevr): what is separation of variables?
[18:56] (Nvragnevr): how does it arise in partial differential equations?
[18:56] (+Opmmur): Nvragnevr please let Alexander explan
[18:56] (Nvragnevr): qhat is the schrodinger equation?
[18:57] (@AlexanderTT): it is not my job to know these things, and honestly, if I did know the technology do you think I
would be in this room talking to you?
[18:57] (Nvragnevr): opmmur, listen to me, ok?
[18:57] (Nvragnevr): this is why i told you what i told you
[18:57] (Nvragnevr): this is serious science
[18:57] (@AlexanderTT): if you want equations I can provided them
[18:57] (Nvragnevr): not his pseudoscience
[18:57] (@AlexanderTT): i do not understand them, but I could make copies
[18:57] (Nvragnevr): i want conversation about these topics, here and now
[18:57] (Nvragnevr): not equation
[18:58] (Nvragnevr): not equations
[18:58] (Nvragnevr): discuss the subjects intelligently
[18:58] (Nvragnevr): equations are not required
[18:58] (@AlexanderTT): are you scared of equations showing how TT is done?
[18:58] (Nvragnevr): fine
[18:58] (Nvragnevr): you want to e-mail me your material, send it to me
[18:58] (Nvragnevr): [email protected]
[18:58] (Nvragnevr): i will gladly read it
[18:59] (@AlexanderTT): fine, I will somebody tell me how I can copy a book and post it to e-mail
[18:59] (+KPAX): no fragments however
[18:59] (@AlexanderTT): no complete pages
[18:59] (@AlexanderTT): I dont care
[18:59] (Nvragnevr): all you have to do is send it a little at a time, as attachments
[18:59] (Nvragnevr): or paste it in
[18:59] (Nvragnevr): take your time
[18:59] (Nvragnevr): no rush
[18:59] (@AlexanderTT): how do I copy it?
[19:00] (Nvragnevr): copying is not required
[19:00] (Nvragnevr): merely attach pieces to an email after using Winzip to compress them
[19:00] (Nvragnevr): and then send them to me
[19:00] (@AlexanderTT): well its in a binder right now
[19:00] (Nvragnevr): i will gladly read them
[19:00] (@AlexanderTT): i need to make it digital
[19:00] (Nvragnevr): scan in the pages
[19:00] (Nvragnevr): if you send material, i will seriously read it
[19:00] (@AlexanderTT): i have no scanner, but I can use my friends
[19:01] (Nvragnevr): opmmur, do you see the difference now?
[19:01] (Nvragnevr): fine
[19:01] (Nvragnevr): send it
[19:01] (@AlexanderTT): ok, as soon as I can
[19:01] (@GearBrains): copy to [email protected] please
[19:01] (@AlexanderTT): you have my word
[19:02] (@AlexanderTT): and how do I know you will not post it to the public before I am safely gone?
[19:02] (@GearBrains): i wont
[19:02] (@AlexanderTT): i am speaking to Nvragnevr
[19:02] (+Opmmur): and to [email protected] and I will post in inmy forum Time Travel Theory Forum
[19:02] *** Quits: Thelper (Ping timeout )
[19:03] *** Quits: Nvragnevr (Read error: Connection reset by peer )
[19:03] (@AlexanderTT): i do not want it posted untill I am gone
[19:03] (@AlexanderTT): honestly if you truly believed I was a time traveler would you not hunt me down like a dog?????????
[19:03] (+Opmmur): OK you have my word on it
[19:03] (@GearBrains): you set the release date and i will wait till then
[19:04] (@AlexanderTT): no but I have pictures, of my home
[19:05] *** Joins: Thelper (~[email protected] )
[19:05] (@AlexanderTT): yes
[19:05] 01 ( Thelper):
[19:05] *** GearBrains sets mode: +v Thelper
[19:05] (@AlexanderTT): i guess KPAX will get his childish wish after all
[19:05] (Thelper): where is professor I im blinded by my own views?
[19:05] (Thelper): professor has strong ego
[19:06] (@AlexanderTT): did anyone notice, he would never talk about what I was talking about he would just throw out big
words?
[19:06] (Thelper): will never become knowledgable while holding on to his views of how things work and exsist
[19:06] (Thelper): yes I noticed
[19:06] (@AlexanderTT): in order for a conversation to take place we would have had to find middle ground in our intelligence
difference, he would not do so
[19:06] (Thelper): to him if dont exsist
[19:07] (Thelper): it not possible
[19:07] (Thelper): to bad he hasnt experienced death
[19:07] (Thelper): or he would think differently
[19:07] (catman1): seems like everybody just wants to argue with you Alex why dont they just listen???
[19:07] (Thelper): Alexander does your time know of the exsistance of our other bodys?
[19:08] (+Opmmur): Thank catman
[19:08] (@AlexanderTT): i agree catman1, what does it matter, worst case for you is that I am right, if I am wrong you have
nothing to worry about
[19:09] (Thelper): ALexander your right thou this time can not keep going way it is, it must happen for them to learn how
important life is "The gift god gave them".
[19:09] (catman1): I also enjoy talking with you on the forum...I hope all the skeptics dont follow you around wherever you
go!!!!
[19:09] (Thelper): Alex doe your time know of the exsistance of our other bodys?
[19:09] (@AlexanderTT): you know the only reason I was going to post what you call proof is so that people would listen to
what I had to say while I was here
[19:09] (+Opmmur): I believe many people do not like hearing the truth
[19:10] (+KPAX): [19:05] (@AlexanderTT): i guess KPAX will get his childish wish after all
[19:10] (Thelper): opmmur many ppl think this life is all there is
[19:10] (catman1): Anyway all this tech stuff...most people will not understand it anyway!!
[19:10] (+Opmmur): yes you do
[19:10] (Thelper): Alex doe your time know of the exsistance of our other bodys?
[19:10] (Thelper): ?
[19:11] (@AlexanderTT): no
[19:11] (Thelper): I c
[19:11] (@AlexanderTT): only other selves in other worldlines
[19:11] (Thelper): this time knows a little of it
[19:12] *** Joins: mrmagic526 (~[email protected] )
[19:12] (@AlexanderTT): seriously if you guys want proof let me show you what proof you already have...
[19:12] (Thelper): astral projection is a key element in discovering who you truely are "I dont mean the egos that blind you
I mean your true being"
[19:12] 01 ( mrmagic526): Wow glad I found the room. read about what happened
[19:12] *** GearBrains sets mode: +v mrmagic526
[19:12] (Thelper): this wont be discovered through out world for another 1000yrs at l;east to my knowledge im glad to see
some know now
[19:13] (@AlexanderTT): it has become apparent hundreds of times that I do not and can not relate to any of you and
conversations between us are difficult, also explaining things to you is sometimes impossible
[19:13] (+KPAX): if you people want ot believe Alex's lies i can't and won't stop you
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