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Snow Fire Watches post Sep 30 2004, 12:04 AM
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[11:50] *** Guest85658 (~[email protected]) has joined #AlexanderTTonline
[11:52] (Guest85658): is there anyone out there today in this sea of information?
[11:52] (Edge25): hello Alex
[11:52] *** KPAX (~[email protected]) has joined #AlexanderTTonline
[11:52] (Guest85658): hello Edge25
[11:52] *** Guest85658 is now known as AlexanderTT
[11:52] (AlexanderTT): i wish I didnt have to use the TT after my name
[11:52] (Edge25): how's things in Alabama?
[11:52] (GearBrains): welcone alex
[11:52] (GearBrains): welcome
[11:52] (AlexanderTT): i hear thunder in the distance but it is still sunny
[11:53] (ZiggyStarchild): It's beautiful where I am
[11:53] (Edge25): just getting dark in England
[11:53] (AlexanderTT): so , libya has plutonium, I didnt remember reading about that, but oh well
[11:53] (AlexanderTT): doesnt matter anyway
[11:54] *** GearBrains sets mode: +o AlexanderTT
[11:54] (Edge25): oh yeah, Alex - Thelper asked me to tell you that their was a conspiracy behind 9/11
[11:54] (Edge25): don't know why he asked me, he just did
[11:54] (AlexanderTT): of course there was, I told everyone about it
[11:54] (LynneSny): Hi Alexander
[11:54] (Edge25): i must have missed that log
[11:56] (AlexanderTT): hold im reading the new posts
[11:56] (vlady): Alex, we have created another room that will be specially moderated so that you don't get banned, kicked or 'handled' which would prevent good conversation to be had. The room is called #AlexnderTheGreatTT
[11:56] (AlexanderTT): please excuse me for just a moment
[11:56] (Edge25): we don't need MORE rooms surely?!
[11:56] (AlexanderTT): nice name for a room
[11:56] (vlady): Edge, its to help moderate against previous instances... check the logs
[11:57] (Edge25): ok
[11:57] (KPAX): a theory has developed that you are a member of a subversive mailitia hell bent on the overthrow of the US Government what do is you response to that AlexanderTT?
[11:58] (LynneSny): Alex you will be made sysop of the new room if you will log on?
[11:59] *** KPAX (~[email protected]) Quit (Quit: Peace & Protection 4.00 FINAL BETA)
[12:01] *** KPAX (~[email protected]) has joined #AlexanderTTonline
[12:02] (ZiggyStarchild): Welcome back KPAX
[12:03] (KPAX): i put it to you Alexander that you are a member of a subversive group hell bent on the overthrow of the United States Government and that you are not a TT at all...waht do you have to say about that?
[12:04] (Edge25): ...?
[12:04] *** KPAX was kicked by GearBrains (turn about is fair play)
[12:04] *** KPAX (~[email protected]) has joined #AlexanderTTonline
[12:04] (SnowFireWatches): YAY
[12:05] *** GearBrains sets mode: +b *!*@dialup-202-45-107-166.Brisbane.netspace.net.au
[12:05] *** [#AlexanderTTonline] Banned- KPAX
[12:05] *** KPAX was kicked by MadIce (Banned (*!*@dialup-202-45-107-166.Brisbane.netspace.net.au))
[12:05] (Edge25): why was he kicked?
[12:05] (Edge25): and banned?
[12:05] (SnowFireWatches): but i would like an answer to his question though
[12:05] (LynneSny): whew
[12:05] (ZiggyStarchild): Yeah think you guys jumped the gun a bit. He did ask a liget question.
[12:06] (SnowFireWatches): why can be a topic forlater discussion
[12:06] (GearBrains): thanks snow
[12:07] (SnowFireWatches): the question is good
[12:07] (Edge25): Gear Brains - KPAX wants to know why he was banned?
[12:07] (SnowFireWatches): the questioner has issues
[12:08] (SnowFireWatches): I think we all agree we want a room that Alex will talk in.
[12:08] (LynneSny): ANd everything possible will be done not to offend Alex again.
[12:09] (SnowFireWatches): agreed
[12:09] (GearBrains): this room is for alex- and kpax has a habit of getting out of hand- you asked
[12:10] (GearBrains): i answered
[12:10] (LynneSny): ALex, how are you this afternoon?
[12:11] (vlady): Edge, KPAX is set to debunk Alex in an agressive way which removes from the objectivity and enjoyment of our discussion. On top of that, some seriosly weird 'stuff' is going on with regards to Alex's posted material... so until anyone has conclusive PROOF that he is a hoax, then Alex should be entitled to talk to everyone else
[12:11] (GearBrains): i will allow KPAX to be unbanned only at alex's request
[12:11] (vlady): in a safe nonagreesive environment
[12:12] (AlexanderTT): GearBrains, i have stated numerous times that I do not fear KPAX , and that I hope to show him the error in his logic
[12:12] (AlexanderTT): i think the room sould vote on it, it should not be my descision
[12:12] (vlady): Hi Alex, welcome
[12:12] (AlexanderTT): hello everyone
[12:12] (SnowFireWatches): does that mean you want him in the room alex?
[12:12] (AlexanderTT): i fear that my time is short
[12:13] (LynneSny): Does anyone have the url of pheonix's post so Alex may read it.
[12:13] (AlexanderTT): it doesnt matter to me either way, i actually like the confrontation, it is pointless but fun for me
[12:13] (SnowFireWatches): KPAX is ~[email protected] * KPAX
[12:13] (SnowFireWatches): KPAX using matrix.de.eu.dal.net www.arcor.de - Arcor Online Services
[12:13] (SnowFireWatches): KPAX has identified for this nick
[12:13] (SnowFireWatches): KPAX has been idle 0secs, signed on Fri Feb 20 09:25:00
[12:13] (SnowFireWatches): KPAX End of /WHOIS list.
[12:13] (SnowFireWatches): -
[12:13] (SnowFireWatches): oops
[12:13] (SnowFireWatches): http://invisionfree.com/forums/Time_Travel...415&st;=15&#last
[12:14] (AlexanderTT): i have read that post
[12:14] (LynneSny): Alex, the above url is why we have takin drastic measures.
[12:14] (SnowFireWatches): then are you saying that pheonix made this post without your inpot alex?
[12:14] (AlexanderTT): and I apreciate pheonix trying to look out for me
[12:14] (Edge25): is KPAX going to be un-banned?
[12:14] (SnowFireWatches): he seemed to be speaking FOR you
[12:14] (ZiggyStarchild): Let's vote
[12:14] (AlexanderTT): everyone should vote
[12:14] (ZiggyStarchild): I say yes
[12:15] (GearBrains): to?
[12:15] (vlady): Let him speak
[12:15] (SnowFireWatches): not if it is up to me edge - but i will defer to a majority
[12:15] (Edge25): yes to what?
[12:15] (AlexanderTT): democracy people not dictatorship
[12:15] (ZiggyStarchild): let KPAX back in
[12:15] (vlady): aye
[12:15] (Edge25): ok hang on...Should KPAX be un-banned? yes or no?
[12:15] (vlady): yes
[12:15] (SnowFireWatches): no
[12:15] (AlexanderTT): i look forward to addressing his question
[12:15] (Edge25): yes
[12:15] (LynneSny): If Alex promises he won't leave, then yes to KPAX, otherwise No-way
[12:15] (AlexanderTT): well I have to leave in a little bit anyway
[12:16] (LynneSny): Not leave for good, I ment.
[12:16] (vlady): ... or doesnt leave because he's offended
[12:16] (SnowFireWatches): so just answer his question then alex or say what you wish to say today
[12:16] (Edge25): we need a quick decision then
[12:16] (AlexanderTT): if everyone hear gets tired of me and KPAX going at it, then you can ban him again so that I can address everyones questions
[12:16] (vlady): exactly
[12:16] (LynneSny): ok
[12:16] (ZiggyStarchild): Yay!
[12:17] (AlexanderTT): but I do like hearing stuff from the horses mouth
[12:17] (Edge25): so, is he un-banned?
[12:17] (AlexanderTT): not my descision
[12:17] (vlady): K Snow... i think that's a majority
[12:17] (MadIce): Goodmorning, everyone. Still not very awake. I need to make some coffee.
[12:17] (AlexanderTT): yuck coffe
[12:17] (LynneSny): IN your log two days ago you personally stated that you might very well throw in the towel, if offended again
[12:17] (vlady): lol
[12:18] (AlexanderTT): yes if I am to be treated as I was that day again, I am not a threat to you and I do not like being treated as such
[12:19] (vlady): Alex, can i ask whether the military have ever used children on TT missions?
[12:19] (AlexanderTT): i have only the best intentions in mind, yet I was treated as an enemy and I was quite upset
[12:19] (Edge25): Alex - are you aware that certain people seem to be very close in debunking John Titor and tracking him down?
[12:19] (AlexanderTT): no they havent
[12:19] (LynneSny): We are trying to keep the convorsation civil as best we can.
[12:19] (AlexanderTT): what would you call very close Edge25?
[12:20] (Edge25): close as in...knowing his real name, address and phone number
[12:20] (AlexanderTT): I know for a fact that they can't be, it is impossible to prove he is not a TT, because he was, however I am sure I will see false and made-up evidence
[12:21] (AlexanderTT): address and phone number? so Bellsouth can call worldlines now, thats neat!
[12:21] (GearBrains): /chanserv unban #channel [nick/*/nick!user@host]
[12:21] (Edge25): if John Titor was 'proven' to be a fake what explanation would you give?
[12:21] (AlexanderTT): but if you wish to pursue an impossible mission, then go right ahead
[12:22] *** ChanServ sets mode: -b *!*@dialup-202-45-107-166.Brisbane.netspace.net.au
[12:22] *** KPAX (~[email protected]) has joined #AlexanderTTonline
[12:22] (AlexanderTT): that is not possible Edge25,So I havent given it any thought
[12:22] (Edge25): Alex - I must stress I am not tracking Titor down, Rick Donaldson is (and has) by the sounds of it
[12:22] (vlady): well i'd like to know what would define PROOF - name and number isnt enough.. they can be faked too
[12:23] (AlexanderTT): who is rick donaldson, and how can he find someone who is not there? unless he found a small boy
[12:23] *** GearBrains sets mode: +v KPAX
[12:23] (KPAX): and if that is the case your little sharade will be over
[12:23] (vlady): no it wont
[12:23] (vlady): it will prove JT AND ALEX!!
[12:23] (vlady): JT was born in 1998 remember!
[12:23] (KPAX): lol yes vlady you are probably right
[12:24] (vlady): lol
[12:24] (AlexanderTT): hey everyone, I have proof that KPAX is a LIAR and FAKE, his address is 123 antagonist lane, and his phone number is 1-800-I hate the possibility that my life is predetermined to a point
[12:24] (KPAX): so the question i was banned for..care to answer it Alex?
[12:24] (AlexanderTT): i would love too
[12:24] (vlady): lol
[12:24] (AlexanderTT): they short answer is of course no
[12:24] (vlady): i like your dry sense of humour Alex
[12:25] (KPAX): so why the political agenda
[12:25] (KPAX): ?
[12:25] (vlady): no pun in that too (ie lack of water during your war)
[12:25] (AlexanderTT): i have no political agenda, your society and government does
[12:25] (vlady): you'll have to read Pheonix's post in the forum KPAX
[12:25] (vlady): we've taken measures to ensure a CIVIL discussion
[12:26] (KPAX): when you are proven a fake ..i am comng to see you alex...and then you are going to eat those words
[12:26] (AlexanderTT): coming to see me?
[12:26] (KPAX): yeah
[12:26] (AlexanderTT): and you wonder why TT'rs speaking up is rare!
[12:26] (vlady): ease up man!
[12:26] (AlexanderTT): well , real ones anyway
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[12:26] *** GearBrains sets mode: +v Payton123456
[12:26] (Payton123456): hi everyone!
[12:27] (Edge25): Alex - I don't want to scare you but...the game is up man
[12:27] *** DWOMT (~[email protected]) has joined #AlexanderTTonline
[12:27] (AlexanderTT): the game?
[12:27] *** GearBrains sets mode: +v DWOMT
[12:27] (Edge25): this whole story, it is crumbling day by day
[12:28] (vlady): they mean you're being fake and holding out
[12:28] (AlexanderTT): oh ok
[12:28] (Edge25): Titor will be proven a fake within a week, mark my words
[12:28] (vlady): 'they' as in the Alex debunkers
[12:28] (AlexanderTT): or proven real
[12:28] (vlady): is that a prediction Edge?!
[12:28] (vlady): lol
[12:28] (KPAX): what was the premis behind Time Travel Was it einstiens theory or Quantum mechanics that proved to be fruitful?
[12:28] (Edge25): yes it is lol
[12:28] (KPAX): Alexander
[12:28] (AlexanderTT): neither kpax
[12:29] (AlexanderTT): well to a point
[12:29] (KPAX): expalin
[12:29] (KPAX): explain
[12:29] (Edge25): when I say 'Titor' I mean 'the person(s) behind the character Titor'
[12:29] (vlady): KPAX, he's mentioned this before... search google for CERN research
[12:30] (vlady): you will have to make up your own mind as to what you dig up
[12:30] (Payton123456): I don't care if you guys think he's real or not...He's shown me a different way to think...and I thank him for that...wethere he's a liar or not...doesn't matter to me
[12:30] (Edge25): 'he's shown me a different way to think': that's why he could be so dangerous
[12:30] (KPAX): Alex explain that statement
[12:30] (AlexanderTT): wow Payton123456, thank you
[12:30] (AlexanderTT): in wich way? KPAX?
[12:30] (Payton123456): noo...nooo...thinking a different way isn't dangerous
[12:31] (KPAX): you say neither explain
[12:31] (AlexanderTT): Im still trying to decide what ecplanation would be satisfactory to you
[12:31] (KPAX): the truthful one
[12:31] (Edge25): lol
[12:31] (vlady): Alex, theres a line from a movie: explain it to me like i was a five year old
[12:31] (vlady):
[12:32] (KPAX): come on alex
[12:32] * KPAX taps his feet waiting for the answer
[12:32] (vlady): easy folks...he's obviously typing!
[12:33] (DWOMT): or googling
[12:33] (AlexanderTT): well, the easiest and less harmful way to explain is that hawking will re-think his theories almost completely, he will believe in TT and post his findings in a brief history of time "a new beginning"
[12:33] (vlady): is that a new publication then alex?
[12:33] (AlexanderTT): this is just the start of a brand new scientific way to see the now "multiverse"
[12:33] (KPAX): you have said that before...why does he rethinknhis theories?
[12:33] (KPAX): rethink his thoeries
[12:34] (AlexanderTT): on that I am not sure, something deffinetely changes his mind though
[12:34] (KPAX): where was he wrong?
[12:34] (vlady): he doesnt hit his head on the lavatory does he?
[12:34] (KPAX): explain that
[12:34] (KPAX): prolly
[12:34] (KPAX): lol
[12:34] (vlady): (sorry, BackToTheFuture reference)
[12:34] (AlexanderTT): i am not a scientist , but I believe that his theories were to fermly grounded in einstein, and has was thinking to much about wormholes and faster than light travel
[12:34] (KPAX): come on Marty...er Alex
[12:35] (AlexanderTT): neither of these will be need to TT
[12:35] (Edge25): Alex - I know what your answer is going to be but...the one way to prove this is to provide some actual evidence in the form of video clips of pictures. You say you'll do this when you leave but i honestly think it wouldn't make a difference if you posted them now. If someone wanted to track you down they could, with or without any video clip or photo...
[12:35] (KPAX): do you have any document or anything from you time with you?
[12:36] (AlexanderTT): well, Edge25, I just named a book that isnt out yet, if it is published would you not consider that proof?
[12:36] (KPAX): like a piece of paper?
[12:36] (Edge25): what book was that Alex?
[12:36] (vlady): he's got the manual to his machine, right?
[12:36] (AlexanderTT): a brief history of time "new beginnings"
[12:36] (AlexanderTT): yes I have the manual, and if I post anything soon it will be that, or portions from it
[12:37] (Edge25): and when will that be published?
[12:37] (KPAX): can you send to Opmmur a blood sample anonomously so it can be tested?
[12:37] (Edge25): the book i mean
[12:37] (KPAX): Alex?
[12:37] (AlexanderTT): a blood sample?
[12:37] (vlady): LOLOLOL
[12:37] (vlady): LMAO
[12:37] (Edge25): when will that book be published Alex?
[12:37] (KPAX): for DNA testing
[12:37] (AlexanderTT): your scaring me now
[12:37] (AlexanderTT): what purpose would that possibly serve
[12:37] (vlady): what, is oppmur a Jedi now? midiclorian counts? lol
[12:37] (KPAX): why ...it would prove several thing one way or another
[12:38] (AlexanderTT): like what? i have hazel colored eyes?
[12:38] (Edge25): when will that book be published Alex?
[12:39] (AlexanderTT): sooner than later
[12:39] (KPAX): no it would back you story to some extent because you DNA would be altered by the nuclear fallout and because of the food you eatr
[12:39] (AlexanderTT): I love replying like that
[12:39] (vlady): Alex, from what i understand of your TT method, you cant just fast forward in advance by 1-2 weeks then come back to our present day?
[12:39] (AlexanderTT): oh I see
[12:39] (AlexanderTT): hmmm, never thought about that
[12:39] (KPAX): hhmm gonna send it?
[12:39] (AlexanderTT): no vlady, I cant
[12:39] (Edge25): hmmmm doubt it KPAX
[12:39] (KPAX): guess not
[12:40] (KPAX): still no proof of you story
[12:40] (AlexanderTT): yes I doubt it too, sending my blood through public mail doesnt sound inviting
[12:40] (Edge25): Alex - could you not just type out a bit of your manual here?
[12:40] (KPAX): send it by medoical courier
[12:40] (KPAX): medical
[12:40] (Edge25): just a sentence or two
[12:40] (AlexanderTT): actually kpax, I am currently working on the proof you desire so much
[12:40] (vlady): what will that prove?
[12:40] (vlady): Edge?
[12:40] (AlexanderTT): i have done that before Edge25
[12:40] (Edge25): nothing, but it would be interesting
[12:40] (KPAX): tests could be run on the blood to see the levels of nuclear exposure
[12:41] (AlexanderTT): and I was told not to do it again
[12:41] (Edge25): why?
[12:41] (AlexanderTT): why not just meet someone in person and take that polygraph thing, also show my C404 and the manual, that is what I was planning
[12:41] (KPAX): oh a likely story...admit it you will not provide the proof because you have none
[12:42] (KPAX): i want proof to the same burden that a court will accept
[12:42] (Edge25): could you not just scan the manual and photo's of the time machine for us all to see, like JT did?
[12:43] (vlady): Alex, can you tell me how the Chinese 'invade' Australia (my home)
[12:43] (AlexanderTT): i dont see the point of this whole proof debate really, no matter what I do people can say that it is fake or a hoax, even if I made a jump in times square. so why cant we just talk about interesting things together
[12:43] (AlexanderTT): yes Edge25, and I plan on it
[12:43] (DWOMT): the chinese will come in rice ships
[12:43] (MadIce): Back
[12:43] (Edge25): why not do it today Alex?
[12:43] (KPAX): no because you have not provide any reason as to why youshould be believed
[12:44] (AlexanderTT): i dont have a scanner, or camera, and my friend who would have those things is out of town
[12:44] (Edge25): how convenient
[12:44] (KPAX): so let's concentrate on you providing proof
[12:44] (MadIce): The 2005 evidence is very convinient.
[12:44] (AlexanderTT): i never said to believe me KPAX
[12:44] (KPAX): i want proof you are a real TT
[12:44] (AlexanderTT): well, I want a pool full of virgins
[12:45] (Edge25): i have a suggestion...buy a camera, take a trip to your local library and scan the photo's and then come back here
[12:45] (KPAX): adn so would everyone is suspect
[12:45] (ZiggyStarchild): You can take stuff to almost any film store and scan them onto a CD or floppy
[12:45] (Edge25): exactly Ziggy
[12:45] (AlexanderTT): to a public store? this is excatly the type of thing I am talking about
[12:45] (Edge25): he's just making excuses
[12:45] (DWOMT): funny how Alex can get his hands on any PC games he wishes..but nothing as simple as a camera or a scanner
[12:45] (ZiggyStarchild): You use the machine yourself
[12:45] (AlexanderTT): well, my GPS has lots of programs stored in it
[12:45] (KPAX): if you are what you say Alex why do you evade shoeing evidence of it
[12:46] (AlexanderTT): but no camera
[12:46] (KPAX): showing
[12:46] (ZiggyStarchild): I've done it lots. People don't stand over your shoulder
[12:46] (Edge25): buy one
[12:46] (MadIce): Why is it important that you are to believed anyway, Alex? Does your mission fail if you are not believed?
[12:46] (Edge25): just buy one of those disposable camera, no big deal
[12:46] (AlexanderTT): because, then I would be hunted down like a dog , because everyone would love to see the TT'r and use his machine
[12:46] (Edge25): no you wouldn't though
[12:46] (AlexanderTT): it is not important if I am believed MadIce, and I do not care
[12:46] (KPAX): lemme guess they donj't use money in your time
[12:46] (Edge25): if someone wanted to hunt you down, they'd do it now
[12:47] (Edge25): with or without photo's
[12:47] (KPAX): provide evidence or be quiet alex
[12:47] (MadIce): Maybe keeping a low profile would be a smart thing to do, don't you think so? But unfortunately, you didn't do that. I wonder why.
[12:47] (Edge25): after all, JT did it and he didn't get tracked down despite being online for 3 months or something
[12:47] (AlexanderTT): well then KPAX, before I talk to you anymore, prove to me that you are KPAX!!!!
[12:47] (Edge25): that's a poor argument Alex
[12:48] (AlexanderTT): no its not, he cant
[12:48] (AlexanderTT): i am just trying to point out, that it is pointless to have this debate again
[12:48] (Edge25): what's stopping you going out and buying a camera, then scanning the photo's at a film store?
[12:48] (Payton123456): Why do you all care so much if he's real or not?
[12:49] (MadIce): He doesn't have to. KPAX does not claim to be a TTer. That is something different. TTers happen to have a cult-like status in our time, Alex.
[12:49] (AlexanderTT): how do you know I havent already done that Edge25?
[12:49] (ZiggyStarchild): You can get one at Wal Mart for $5.99
[12:49] (AlexanderTT): cult-like?
[12:49] (AlexanderTT): i hope not
[12:49] (MadIce): Yes
[12:49] (KPAX): hello people of 2004 I am a time traveller on a secret mission...you say (Paraphrasing) ..you have broken the foirst rule of a covert mission by telling us that...from a military stratagey point of view that was dumb Alex
[12:49] (Edge25): well, if you've already done it Alex, why don't you let us all see the photo's?
[12:49] (AlexanderTT): i never said my mission was secret
[12:49] (KPAX): you did
[12:50] (AlexanderTT): you just never asked the right questions about my mission
[12:50] (KPAX): cop out
[12:50] (SnowFireWatches): KPAX do not badger alex please
[12:50] (MadIce): Yes cult-like. You have noticed that. People love to listen to you and you loved to wave and bow to the crowd.
[12:50] (AlexanderTT): quote me then KPAX, give me a log or post, where I said it was a BIG SECRET
[12:50] (KPAX): i am in the middle of an interrogation
[12:50] (Edge25): if you provided these REAL photo's Alex, the hassling would stop
[12:50] (Payton123456): your interrogations aren't effective over the net KPAX!
[12:51] (AlexanderTT): interrogation? and you people wonder about why I do not provide proof
[12:51] (Payton123456): you can't call someone a name and expect them to break over the net
[12:51] (KPAX): what benefit to your "mission " does announcing yourself to us serve?
[12:51] (Edge25): we are growing tired Alex, we need to move on to the next stage and that stage is showing some actual evidence, or at least something new to argue about
[12:51] (MadIce): You don't provide proof because it is convenient. If you can you would even made me a believer.
[12:52] (Edge25): agreed MadIce
[12:52] (KPAX): come on alex answer my question
[12:52] (AlexanderTT): lets just say that you will all have what you are looking for sooner than you think so be patient and lets talk about something else that has a point to it
[12:52] (KPAX): no we want it now not later ...answer my question
[12:52] (Edge25): but that's the problem Alex, we've talked and talked and talked, it's time for something different
[12:53] (Edge25): i.e. some photo's to discuss
[12:53] (KPAX): what benefit to your "mission " does announcing yourself to us serve?
[12:53] (MadIce): Your friend Phoenix started the hostilities today, Alex. Don't blame us. Blame him.
[12:53] (AlexanderTT): ok then
[12:53] (KPAX): what benefit to your "mission " does announcing yourself to us serve?
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[12:53] (KPAX): what benefit to your "mission " does announcing yourself to us serve?
[12:53] (AlexanderTT): no more talk, its time for something different
[12:53] (KPAX): what benefit to your "mission " does announcing yourself to us serve?
[12:53] (KPAX): what benefit to your "mission " does announcing yourself to us serve?
[12:53] (KPAX): what benefit to your "mission " does announcing yourself to us serve?
[12:53] *** KPAX was kicked by MadIce (Please don't repeat yourself)
[12:53] (AlexanderTT): i had to find someone, and announcing myself let him know where I was
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[12:53] (AlexanderTT): you know this
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[12:54] (KPAX): answer the damn question
[12:54] *** MadIce sets mode: +vv KPAX vlady
[12:54] (Payton123456): KPAX your bien' a turd
[12:54] (AlexanderTT): of course according to him it was not neccassary
[12:54] (MadIce): I love this cript
[12:54] (AlexanderTT): i did
[12:54] (MadIce): I love this script
[12:54] (Edge25): KPAX - <AlexanderTT>- i had to find someone, and announcing myself let him know where I was
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[12:54] (MadIce): Sorry, KPAX
[12:54] (KPAX): who do you have to find
[12:54] (Edge25): so, Alex - do you agree that it is time for you to show these photos?
[12:55] (KPAX): ??
[12:55] (AlexanderTT): its too late KPAX, i found him
[12:55] (KPAX): give me his fgull name
[12:55] (KPAX): full name
[12:55] (KPAX): ok goive me his full name
[12:55] (AlexanderTT): according to him now or how you would recognise the name?
[12:55] (KPAX): evading
[12:55] (KPAX): giove me his full name
[12:55] (AlexanderTT): which one and I will provide
[12:55] (KPAX): all
[12:55] (AlexanderTT): he has had several
[12:56] (KPAX): all
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[12:56] (KPAX): address too
[12:56] (KPAX): dob
[12:56] (KPAX): d.o.b
[12:56] (AlexanderTT): now it is Simon, he has also been called Saint Germain, and Count do Fernadan
[12:56] (KPAX): ssn
[12:56] (KPAX): SSn#
[12:56] (Edge25): Simon who?
[12:56] (AlexanderTT): he has none
[12:56] (AlexanderTT): he just said Simon
[12:57] (KPAX): you are in America if he lives there he has a SSN
[12:57] (AlexanderTT): said Saint Germain was to obvious in public now
[12:57] (AlexanderTT): no KPAX, he is not American
[12:57] (KPAX): so
[12:57] (KPAX): i am not american and i have an ssn
[12:57] (AlexanderTT): you obviously dont know who saint Germain is
[12:57] (vlady): can he confirm the existence of Jesus then Alex?
[12:58] (AlexanderTT): he claims he was at the last supper, I have told this before
[12:58] (KPAX): come on i am still waiting for all the names this person uses/d
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[12:58] (AlexanderTT): well the other one , I cant spell
[12:58] (vlady): yes... but was Jesus a mystical figure or was he a political figure/leader whose story got twisted through the ages
[12:58] (AlexanderTT): sounds like a noise to me
[12:58] (KPAX): try
[12:58] (Edge25): that's the problem Alex - you have told us this before. I said earlier, it's time for something new to talk about. Photos please.
[12:58] *** GearBrains sets mode: +v Jovial_Ki
[12:58] *** GearBrains sets mode: +v vlady
[12:59] (KPAX): come on alex names date of bith, SSN
[12:59] (AlexanderTT): ok Edge25, your right, it is pointless for me to have this debate right now with all of you
[12:59] (SnowFireWatches): alex dont leave
[12:59] (KPAX): you keep making cliams but you can't back them up
[12:59] (Edge25): if people want to know about St. Germain then they can read the logs
[13:00] (KPAX): claims
[13:00] (Edge25): i'd like something new to talk about i.e. photos
[13:00] (AlexanderTT): really? do research on saint germain KPAX you will see what I am talking about
[13:00] (AlexanderTT): come one a simple google search and youve got it
[13:00] (KPAX): no i want mames dates SSN's
[13:00] (Edge25): one simple trip to the local film store Alex...
[13:00] (AlexanderTT): oh this is pointless, those dont apply to him KPAX
[13:00] (KPAX): you make the claims you provide the proof i check nthe proof out
[13:01] (KPAX): why?
[13:01] (vlady): Hmmm... to try something out here...
[13:01] (AlexanderTT): no KPAX, that is not how it works with me, I provide you information, you decide what you think about it, you dont believe me then fine, dont believe
[13:01] (vlady): KPAX do you believe JFK was shot by a lone gunman?
[13:01] (KPAX): i have asked you to prove you claims you don't ..do you see why nobody will believe you?
[13:02] (KPAX): that is not at issue here
[13:02] (vlady): i dont NOT believe him KPAX
[13:02] (AlexanderTT): actually KPAX, it is
[13:02] (AlexanderTT): vlady, makes a good point
[13:02] (AlexanderTT): lets talk about something else
[13:02] (KPAX): come on alex go\ive mne the names of theis person you had to save....DOB and SSN
[13:02] (AlexanderTT): and no I dont think he was vlady
[13:02] (KPAX): no
[13:02] (KPAX): i wnat you to give me full names
[13:02] (Edge25): Alex - you said that you only came here in the 1st place to make contact with the 'immortal', now you have him. why keep coming here?
[13:03] (SnowFireWatches): kpax you are being rude and i am asking you to stop
[13:03] (ZiggyStarchild): I agree. KPAX we all voted you back in.
[13:03] (ZiggyStarchild): Please be nice
[13:03] (AlexanderTT): Kpax, research that name, he has no ssn or dob that anyone but him knows
[13:03] (Edge25): it should be up to Alex whether or not KPAX gets kicked
[13:03] (KPAX): i am not being rude i want real answers to my questions not gibbberish
[13:03] (vlady): Alex what topic(s) did you want to talk about? what have you learned recently that we can discuss?
[13:03] (AlexanderTT): Edge25, I still have friends here that I care about, and besides it is very interesting to me also
[13:03] (Jovial_Ki): H'es obviously not wanting or can't give that info..if you keep hassling him It's not going to make him give it to you..He'll just be more stubborn.
[13:04] (KPAX): another kick...well that is the solution to the question of Alex providing real proof
[13:04] (Edge25): if he's gonna come on the net as a TTer he has to expect this kind of reaction
[13:04] (AlexanderTT): i dont want anyone kicked
[13:04] (SnowFireWatches): not here he doesnt
[13:04] (Edge25): it can't all be namby pamby
[13:04] (KPAX): can't stand the heat alex...get outr of the kitchen
[13:04] (vlady): Edge it doesnt mean we have to GIVE IT to him
[13:04] (Jovial_Ki): i agree with you snowfire completely
[13:04] (Edge25): that's exactly the phrase i was thinking of KPAX
[13:05] (Edge25): so...
[13:05] (KPAX): come on you could'nt measure up to a scientific interrorgation anow you can't measure up to a PI's questions
[13:06] (Edge25): and you refuse to provide photo's and videos now, despite it being a simple thing to do
[13:06] (AlexanderTT): however, sadly this has been a wate of my time, and I have to go , and I was not able to talk about what I wanted to which would have been considered proof, if anyone (KPAX) would just stop badgering me and give me a minute to explain I would far surpase your expectations, I was going to talk about the technology behind the C404 today and also show you drastic changes in the concepts of your current theories and equations, but I have to go n
[13:06] (SnowFireWatches): PI ha! You are nothing but a bully KPAX
[13:06] (AlexanderTT): maybe next time
[13:06] (KPAX): so alexyou toldd us you were here to save someone what is his name/s DOB and SSN
[13:06] (Jovial_Ki): lovely.
[13:06] (Jovial_Ki): Bye alex have a nice afternoon
[13:06] (ZiggyStarchild): Alex don't forget the other room.
[13:06] (ZiggyStarchild): Safe Haven
[13:07] (AlexanderTT): please, do not take offense if you were not one of the badger'rs
[13:07] (KPAX): come on alex running away solves nothing
[13:07] (vlady): maybe a quick post in that room Alex? about your machine?
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[13:07] (JCER): !seen AlexanderTT
[13:07] (MadIce): AlexanderTT!~[email protected] is currently on #AlexanderTTonline
[13:07] (Edge25): is this known as 'bailing out'?
[13:07] (JCER): o hes here
[13:07] (Jovial_Ki): CUT it out guys.
[13:07] *** GearBrains sets mode: +v JCER
[13:07] (JCER): lol
[13:07] (KPAX): chickening out more like it
[13:07] (AlexanderTT): see it how you want to Edge25, but I have to go
[13:07] (Edge25): not for much longer JCER
[13:07] (AlexanderTT): good bye everyone
[13:07] (JCER): damn
[13:07] (JCER): later
[13:07] (Payton123456): bye alex!
[13:07] (Jovial_Ki): If you don't believe him FINE. why bother hanging out in here then?
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[13:07] (Edge25): remember to pop into your local film storer
[13:07] (KPAX): don't let the door hit you on the butt on the way out
[13:08] (SnowFireWatches): sadly i am still convinced tht a room with KPAX in it is not worth talking in> sigh
[13:08] (Edge25): phew, that was interesting
[13:08] (vlady): That was bollocks
[13:08] (ZiggyStarchild): Well I changed my mind too Snow
[13:08] (Payton123456): kpax...please explain yourself...now that he's not here
[13:08] (KPAX): interesting in that as soon as anyone demands proof he runs away
[13:08] (Edge25): i agree KPAX
[13:08] (KPAX): ok will do
[13:08] (Edge25): when the going gets tough...
[13:08] (KPAX): this will take a while
[13:09] (Jovial_Ki): from what I can tell he put up with your harrasment for at least a few minutes. probably more before I joined.
[13:09] (ZiggyStarchild): I think he barely got a word in edgewise
[13:09] * GearBrains wonders who wants to vote again? lol!
[13:09] (SnowFireWatches): lots more JOV
[13:09] (KPAX): i was a believer because of something he said to me in PM
[13:09] (KPAX): ....
[13:09] (Edge25): likewise
[13:09] (ZiggyStarchild): Yeah and you won't tell cos you promised not too. Respect you for that.
[13:10] (KPAX): as tiem wore on i started seeing inconsistancies in his story every time eh deviated from the titor story....
[13:10] (SnowFireWatches): the whole thing was a self centered BS a$$kicking to the satisfaction of none but the perps
[13:10] (KPAX): i gave him hte benefit of the doubt....]
[13:10] (KPAX): still it persisted...
[13:10] (KPAX): when he was asked about the use of passive weapons...and sound waves...he lied about it....
[13:10] (Payton123456): I've seen inconsistancies too KPAX...I can name a few...but why the badgering?
[13:11] (KPAX): that rang alarm bells...lemme finish
[13:11] (KPAX): ...
[13:11] (JCER): kpax go on?
[13:11] (KPAX): then whenhe was banned he startes his own chat room...then....
[13:12] (KPAX): hitman askes a scientist friend into interrogate him using scientifc questioning Alex failed....
[13:12] (SnowFireWatches): no he didnt
[13:12] (vlady): no wait... i take exception.
[13:13] (Edge25): let him finish, then we can discuss after
[13:13] (vlady): READ PHEONIX's analysis of that conversation. Alex held up and managed to convince oppmur who is a respected doctor
[13:14] (vlady): See how it feels now Edge?
[13:14] (SnowFireWatches): I read the logs and the only ones who looked foolish were the ones who insisted a soldier answer scientific questions
[13:14] (vlady): Childish is a word that comes to mind
[13:14] (SnowFireWatches): yes
[13:14] (vlady): Even for a scientist.. i've dealt with 'experts' with that kind of attitude
[13:15] (Edge25): vlady - when you type things on the net there's no such thing as an interruption. the words are still typed for all to see, he cannot be drowned out like in a conversation
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[13:15] (SnowFireWatches): he can bored out like the rest of us were
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[13:16] (Edge25): bored out? what was boring about that chat. i found it quite entertaining
[13:16] (vlady): Edge> true, but he still has to read countless msgs... heck i know i'd feel sh**ty just trying to keep up
[13:16] (SnowFireWatches): the badgering is unproductive and uninteresting and unrewarding
[13:16] (vlady): lol!
[13:16] (Payton123456): everyone should just take it for what it is...a story... you can learn from any story...
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[13:16] (SnowFireWatches): like i said - a self-centered BS fest for the perps
[13:16] (vlady): Welcome back.....
[13:16] (Edge25): KPAX - you gonna finish your story?
[13:16] (SnowFireWatches): you were the only ones who enjoyed that and it says much more about you than it does about alex
[13:17] (KPAX): thanks
[13:17] (vlady): Well Alex, we want the discussion so if u could finish your response, it would be fantastic!
[13:17] (Edge25): you should have seen some of the abuse Titor got, yet he kept going and his story lives to this day
[13:18] (KPAX): today i question him on one issue ...his mission to save St.Germaine or whoever the hell it is supposed to be when pushed for proof he can't or won't provide it citing.....
[13:18] (KPAX): it would be too dangerous for me....
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[13:18] (catman1): hi again
[13:18] *** GearBrains sets mode: +v catman1
[13:19] *** GearBrains sets mode: +v KPAX
[13:19] (SnowFireWatches): hi there catman1!
[13:19] (catman1): anything new??
[13:19] (Edge25): lol
[13:19] (SnowFireWatches): nope
[13:19] (vlady): Alex just got another bollocking
[13:19] (SnowFireWatches): lol
[13:19] (KPAX): or it would endanger the person i am suppose dto save
[13:19] (catman1): in what way
[13:19] (SnowFireWatches): so what part of that doesnt make sense to KPAX??
[13:19] (GearBrains): talk about timing catman!
[13:19] (vlady): ... KPAX, to conclude?
[13:19] (Edge25): hey, how come when i swore i got banned, yet vlady has got away with it a few times now
[13:19] (KPAX): when asked to provide blood for analisis he refuses
[13:20] (catman1): did I walk into a war??
[13:20] (vlady): lololol... looks like they dont know what a bulls nads are called in the uk! lolol
[13:20] (SnowFireWatches): lol
[13:20] (vlady): that doesnt mean he cant... it means he wont. so that 's STILL not proof he's a faker
[13:20] (Edge25): er...yes we use that word in the uk, but is it not a swear word??
[13:20] (Payton123456): KPAX...since you want Alex to be more open...perhaps you could be more open about what he said to you in the PM..
[13:21] (KPAX): and so the list goes on ...folks he has not and will ot provide one singel shred of evidenc
[13:21] (KPAX): ee
[13:21] (KPAX): -1 e
[13:21] (vlady): imagine Marco Polo in front of the Italian govt in his time!
[13:21] (Edge25): he was unable to provide a reason why he couldn't scan those photos
[13:21] (KPAX): indeed
[13:21] (vlady): Edge... i dont think it is! and i'm an Aussie! LMAO
[13:22] (vlady): cos he doesnt have a scanner! he said that already
[13:22] (Edge25): ok, so we can use the word 'bollocks' freely?
[13:22] (vlady): lol,,, u just did!
[13:22] (Edge25): bollock vlday!!
[13:22] (Edge25): *s
[13:22] (vlady): LMAO very heartily
[13:22] (Edge25): he could visit his local film store as Ziggy suggested
[13:22] (Edge25): very convenient how his friend who has a scan i 'out of town'
[13:23] (vlady): aaah... here's what i wanted to sya to Alex but didnt get a chance
[13:23] (JCER): yd he leave!
[13:23] (KPAX): aome will remember from the boards that people did not believe i was a PI ...so i backed up my claim by sending Gavin the proof that i was...i expect the same of Alex ...if ican do it why can't he
[13:23] (vlady): see.. you folks type the way you all speak...which doesnt provide for your vocal inflections... it is possible that a simple request can come out THREATENING!!!??!
[13:24] (Edge25): how can...'Alex, you could go to your local film store and scan those photo's' sound THREATENING!!!111
[13:24] (vlady): well... not everyone shares your prerogative KPAX
[13:24] (KPAX): people were demanding proof i provided it
[13:25] (Edge25): exactlu
[13:25] (Edge25): *y
[13:25] (Payton123456): the fact that everyone is demanding proof is messed up to me...it shows that people are afraid of his story
[13:25] (vlady): Cos maybe they had no film stores in the country where he came from...? ie war devestation in the cities
[13:25] (Edge25): and what proof has Alex provided??? All together now...
[13:25] (Edge25): NONE
[13:26] (KPAX): that is ZIP,NADA, ZILCH, ZERO
[13:26] (vlady): Okay,,, i think it comes to one thing then.. if you dont believe him...do you have a choice? Ignore him or debunk him?
[13:26] (Edge25): I want to be around when he is debunked
[13:26] (KPAX): http://invisionfree.com/forums/Time_Travel...p?showtopic=438
[13:26] (KPAX): go there
[13:27] (vlady): been there
[13:27] (Edge25): KPAX provided the proof he is who he says he is
[13:27] (Edge25): Alex has not
[13:27] (Edge25): does that make KPAX a better person than Alex?
[13:27] (Payton123456): why do you all want proof? if you get your proof...will it change the way you live?
[13:27] (vlady): No
[13:28] (vlady): And vice versa
[13:28] (Edge25): Payton - if I get 'proof' it will give us something interesting to talk about instead of the whole St Germain, C404 blah blah blah zzzzzzzzzzz....
[13:29] (SnowFireWatches): there are plenty of places to go talk
[13:29] (Payton123456): why are you here edge if everything is zzz.?
[13:29] (KPAX): what i find so highly amusing is that I an admonished and my credibility is questioned even though i have proven who i am but Alex who ha not is blindly believed
[13:29] (vlady): well the audience is polarised Payton... there are those left brainers that want the scientific hard tangible visible proof and there are right brainers that could extrapolate on the ISSUES presented by either side
[13:29] (SnowFireWatches): he is not blindly believed
[13:29] (Payton123456): he's not
[13:29] (Edge25): ha!
[13:30] (KPAX): whos lying now
[13:30] (KPAX): ?
[13:30] (Edge25): why is everyone so clingy to him?
[13:30] (Edge25): don't go Alex!
[13:30] (Payton123456): it's a good story...that I can learn from...that's why I'm here
[13:30] (SnowFireWatches): trying to keep him in the room
[13:30] (SnowFireWatches): i still have things i wnat to ask him
[13:30] (KPAX): we don't need him
[13:30] (SnowFireWatches): but you guys make it impossible
[13:30] (SnowFireWatches): we dont need you
[13:30] (Edge25): you could PM him Snow
[13:30] (SnowFireWatches): so could you
[13:31] (KPAX): there is nothing he can do to save us ...so he says
[13:31] (Payton123456): nobody said we did KPAX...we don't need Terminator either
[13:31] (SnowFireWatches): you love your public display iof testosterone
[13:31] (Payton123456): or Lord of the Rings
[13:31] (vlady): let us make that decision ourselves KPAX
[13:31] (Edge25): but if we did that, we'd be accused of being 'threatening'
[13:31] (KPAX): or RockyXXXXXXV
[13:31] (vlady): if youd dont believe him, then why are you here? do what MADICE is doing and post on the FORUM, not the chat? is this not fair to all?
[13:31] (Payton123456): that's right KPAX...it's just a story...take it for what it is
[13:31] (Jovial_Ki): you guys don't think your tone of chat in here isn't just a bit on the hostile side?
[13:32] (JCER): yea
[13:32] *** GearBrains sets mode: +o Jovial_Ki
[13:32] (JCER): lol
[13:32] (Jovial_Ki): weee.
[13:32] (KPAX): it was an interrogation the same kind he is gonna get from the US Secret service
[13:32] (Edge25): i am here because I want the TRUTH
[13:32] (SnowFireWatches): you are threatening for usre KPAX
[13:32] (KPAX): me too
[13:32] (JCER): so do i
[13:32] (Jovial_Ki): we ARENT the Secret service.
[13:32] (JCER): but makin acusations isnt a way to find the truth
[13:32] (Jovial_Ki): god,we're just a channel on IRC.
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[13:32] (Payton123456): not even close...there's a difference between an online interrogation and a real one
[13:32] (KPAX): i ahve sent the 2 ISP addresses to the feds
[13:32] (vlady): so u mean he's gonna get caught now by even darker forces? LOL - cheesy
[13:33] (Edge25): good for you KPAX
[13:33] (KPAX): that alex uses
[13:33] (Jovial_Ki): stop trying to act like it's a matter of life or death if we ask the good questions or stay on topic or debunk a fake!
[13:33] (Aage): hello
[13:33] (Payton123456): why would you do that KPAX?
[13:33] *** GearBrains sets mode: +v Aage
[13:33] (Payton123456): your scared aren't you
[13:33] (Edge25): because this whole thing is getting out of hand
[13:33] (ZiggyStarchild): Yeah what's he done that illegal?
[13:33] (KPAX): because i believe him to have a political agenda that is subversive to the US Govt
[13:34] (vlady): so you dob people in then - is this condoned?
[13:34] (Payton123456): soo...our president does the same thing
[13:34] (KPAX): yes...i dislike them as much as anyone but you don't mess with the Govt
[13:34] (Edge25): if you feel your country is threatened you surely must provide the information
[13:34] (Payton123456): how is he threatening the country?
[13:34] (SnowFireWatches): LOL - KPAX dont mess with is not the same as AID them
[13:34] (Jovial_Ki): I want to see the looks on the fbi's faces when they see this info.
[13:34] (Edge25): Payton - <KPAX> because i believe him to have a political agenda that is subversive to the US Govt
[13:34] (KPAX): he or the oganiszation he could be representing poses a threat to the national security of th united states in my view
[13:35] (Jovial_Ki): it'll be priceless.
[13:35] (SnowFireWatches): this is getting funny in a not very funny way
[13:35] (Payton123456): by starting a revolution? BS if a revolution is able to be started, than there is something wrong already
[13:35] (JCER): i see kpaxs point
[13:35] (JCER): if nething Alexander seems to be trying to set up a feud in america
[13:35] (Edge25): you think the FBI will laugh at this? just look how much they laughed at the Titor story
[13:35] (JCER): what did they do?
[13:35] (JCER): the FBI
[13:35] (JCER): ?
[13:35] (KPAX): if he is not a threat to us national security he will be released to the nearest lunatic asylum
[13:35] (JCER): to titor
[13:35] (Jovial_Ki): i wasn't aware the fbi knew about john titor
[13:36] (Payton123456): so let's take every liar in the world and question them...ok KPAX? will that make you feel safe?
[13:36] (Edge25): damn right the FBI know Titor's story, so do NSA and other govt. agencies
[13:36] (KPAX): imake no apologies for reporting him...i believe it worthy of investigation
[13:36] (SnowFireWatches): even i have had thoughts that this is some kind of recruitment ploy but your interogation techniques are really not appreciated KPAX and not to mention totally unproductive
[13:37] (KPAX): Echelon knows the titor story
[13:37] (SnowFireWatches): so why come in here and brag about it?
[13:37] (KPAX): and Alexs
[13:37] (Payton123456): but should the US question every liar KPAX?
[13:37] (SnowFireWatches): why not just do and wait?
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[13:37] (JCER): if the govt kno about this
[13:37] (JCER): then shouldnt a few be in here
[13:37] (Edge25): we'll leave the interrogation to the authorities now then Snow
[13:37] (SnowFireWatches): you have issues man - ego issues
[13:37] (Payton123456): agreed snow
[13:37] (KPAX): not every liar just the ones who are encouraging civil insurection
[13:38] (Payton123456): it's his right as an american to do that
[13:38] (KPAX): no it is you who has the issues
[13:38] (vlady): hmmm,,, very disheartening
[13:38] (KPAX): i am not american
[13:38] (Edge25): yes Payton - if i went on the streets saying that civil war will start in USA and 3bn will be dead in 11 years time I'd be locked up quicker than you can say...Alex is a fraud
[13:38] (KPAX): never said io was
[13:39] (JCER): kpa
[13:39] (JCER): kpax
[13:39] (JCER): did he tell you he was a fraud?
[13:39] (KPAX): face it you have been conned
[13:39] (KPAX): no i was able to deduct that
[13:39] (Jovial_Ki): conned?
[13:39] (Payton123456): conned??? by a story teller? HAHAHA LOL
[13:39] (Jovial_Ki): Who in here actually believes alex?
[13:39] (DWOMT): I don't
[13:39] (Edge25): not me
[13:39] (SnowFireWatches): you seem to be convinced that becasue we feel we have no proof one way or the the other that we are conned
[13:39] (KPAX): no
[13:39] (JCER): i use 2
[13:39] (DWOMT): i think he's a fraud too
[13:39] (SnowFireWatches): it is a misconception
[13:39] (vlady): no... i still need proof. not the refusal to see proof. this has gone nowhere
[13:39] (JCER): but im seeing kpaxs point
[13:40] (Payton123456): I dont believe him...but it don't matter to me
[13:40] (KPAX): he makes claims he does not back them up
[13:40] (JCER): i think well all kno come 2005
[13:40] (Edge25): if you don't believe Alex, why the eagerness to ask him questions and ensure he stays in the room?
[13:40] (SnowFireWatches): so do you KPAX
[13:40] (KPAX): when challanged to do so he rusn away
[13:40] (DWOMT): a civil war is not possible in the US..at least not in the short time frame Alex said..his story is all bull
[13:40] (SnowFireWatches): prove to me you laerted the US govt
[13:40] (SnowFireWatches): alerted
[13:40] (SnowFireWatches): do it NOW
[13:41] (SnowFireWatches): or you are a liar
[13:41] (KPAX): you wnat ot see the emals
[13:41] (KPAX): emails
[13:41] (ZiggyStarchild): Why would you alert MY govt. You're not American.
[13:41] (KPAX): ok hang on
[13:41] (JCER): kpax
[13:41] (JCER): i wanna see them
[13:41] (Jovial_Ki): america butts in on everyone elses business.
[13:41] (SnowFireWatches): absolutely and your license as a PI and your name address and american ssn
[13:41] (SnowFireWatches): NOW
[13:41] (KPAX): hey he is talking about all out war globally
[13:41] (KPAX): wait i will get them
[13:41] (Edge25): just because he's not American does he not have the right to inform the govt. that they may be under threat?
[13:41] (vlady): cos it COULD happen?
[13:41] (JCER): for all we kno its a terrorist
[13:41] (Payton123456): that's right jovial...we shouldn't do that
[13:42] (KPAX): i said i will get them ...give me a chance to do so
[13:42] (SnowFireWatches): NOW
[13:42] (Edge25): haha Snow, I see what you're doing. The difference is - KPAX will provide the evidence instead of just running away
[13:42] (KPAX): have to conmvert to txt files
[13:42] (SnowFireWatches): LOL edge
[13:42] (SnowFireWatches): too easy to fake
[13:42] (vlady): SnowFire has 10 degrees in Interrogation
[13:43] (vlady): lol
[13:43] (SnowFireWatches): scans of the real thing
[13:43] (DWOMT): gotta go to work..be back tonight..laterz
[13:43] (SnowFireWatches): NOW
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[13:43] (JCER): lol
[13:43] (Edge25): at least he's gonna provide SOMETHING for us to discuss instead of running away
[13:43] (JCER): i just wnat to see what he said
[13:43] (Jovial_Ki): I don't blame alex one bit for leaving.
[13:44] (SnowFireWatches): ( ijust got my education from KPAX!)
[13:44] (Edge25): you're so...blinkered Jovial_Ki
[13:44] (Jovial_Ki): blinkered?
[13:44] (SnowFireWatches): hurry up - I want a picture of youtoo - standing by the citylimits sign in the twon you are at
[13:44] (Jovial_Ki): explain.
[13:44] (SnowFireWatches): NOW
[13:45] (catman1): I think this room is the Civil War that was talked about!!
[13:45] (Edge25): you obviously believe Alex quit because he was being harrassed when it's clear he quit because he had no evidence
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[13:45] (JCER): edge
[13:45] (SnowFireWatches): he quit becasuehe was outof time
[13:45] (JCER): makes a good point
[13:45] (Edge25): sure
[13:45] (Jovial_Ki): He already SAID he wasn't going to talk about the evidence.
[13:45] (SnowFireWatches): he said at the beginning he had a short time
[13:45] (Edge25): he quit because he couldn't handle the pressure
[13:46] (KPAX): here it comes
[13:46] (Jovial_Ki): He wanted to talk about something else. If you would have let him talk about it...and then come back to the evidence you might have gotten somewhere.
[13:46] (SnowFireWatches): and that was your goal want it ?
[13:46] (Jovial_Ki): But no. "GIMME GIMME GIMME"
[13:46] (SnowFireWatches): congratualtions
[13:46] (vlady): i have to agree
[13:46] (vlady): just to eager
[13:46] (Edge25): but Jovial - there was NOTHING to talk about
[13:46] (Edge25): nothing REAL anyway
[13:46] (Jovial_Ki): So?
[13:46] (SnowFireWatches): i already have trace results send me what i asked for KPAX
[13:47] (Edge25): so, what would be the point? we'd just be fed more lies
[13:47] (KPAX): that is right is sent them in the email
[13:47] (Jovial_Ki): Isn't it up to us to decide if we want to be fed those lies?
[13:47] (Jovial_Ki): Last I checked..My mom was at work..not in this chat.
[13:47] (SnowFireWatches): if that is what youthink why do come here edge? you come to disrupt
[13:47] (Edge25): absolutely, that's why there are ignore and PM options
[13:47] (Edge25): i come to seek the TRUTH
[13:47] (JCER): ME@222
[13:47] (KPAX): you don'tr get it do you....anyone associatedwith him could becaome suspect
[13:48] (SnowFireWatches): me too
[13:48] (SnowFireWatches): lol
[13:48] (SnowFireWatches): send me what i asked for KPAX
[13:48] (Jovial_Ki): kpax,we're not safe in this country anymore anyways.
[13:48] (SnowFireWatches): NOW PLEASE
[13:48] (MadIce): http://invisionfree.com/forums/Time_Travel...t=15&#entry7857
[13:48] (JCER): Alex should be taken 2 court
[13:48] (KPAX): waht is the matter you demand the proof then you don't want it when it being given to you SnowFireWatches?
[13:48] (SnowFireWatches): i already have the trace results
[13:49] (SnowFireWatches): send me something new
[13:49] (Jovial_Ki): to court?
[13:49] (Jovial_Ki): oh geez.
[13:49] (vlady): LOL
[13:49] (Edge25): good post MadIce
[13:49] (MadIce): http://invisionfree.com/forums/Time_Travel...t=60&#entry7850
[13:49] (KPAX): the letter predcedes the trace results but you would'nt see that unless you opened the dcc
[13:49] (SnowFireWatches): i didnt iopen as it has the same name
[13:50] (SnowFireWatches): i didnt overwrite
[13:50] (JCER): kpax may i see this?
[13:50] (SnowFireWatches): send me something new
[13:51] (SnowFireWatches): waiting KPAX
[13:51] (KPAX): there
[13:51] (JCER): alex doesnt have to prove nething, hes not here to prove what happens in the future
[13:52] (SnowFireWatches): where is your license, your dob, your ssn your picture?
[13:52] (SnowFireWatches): that istoo easy to fake
[13:52] (SnowFireWatches): resend to the govt and cc me
[13:52] (SnowFireWatches): [email protected]
[13:52] (MadIce): It's even easier to provide no evidence at all.
[13:52] (ZiggyStarchild): bye ya'll. gotta go. bbl
[13:52] (Jovial_Ki): jcer..you were just saying he should be sent to court.
[13:53] (Payton123456): Every person in this room that thinks alex is harmfull to American national security is scared to die...I'm so dissapointed in humanity today
[13:53] (Jovial_Ki): bye ziggy
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[13:53] (vlady): Hey...not me Payton
[13:53] (SnowFireWatches): KPAX
[13:53] (Jovial_Ki): payton..im scared to die..im not scared of alex.
[13:53] (SnowFireWatches): send me some real proof
[13:53] (SnowFireWatches): NOW
[13:53] (SnowFireWatches): or go home
[13:53] (SnowFireWatches): lol
[13:53] (vlady): dont generalise... This is precisely what divides this group at present
[13:53] (Payton123456): everyone dies jovial
[13:53] (SnowFireWatches): put up or shut up as you said to alex
[13:53] (KPAX): you have it when i get the reply i will send it to you
[13:53] (catman1): this is starting to look like a high school chatroom
[13:54] (SnowFireWatches): lol
[13:54] (SnowFireWatches): sorry guys
[13:54] (KPAX): this prolly is
[13:54] (JCER): jovial
[13:54] (SnowFireWatches): i am just proving that KPAX cannot or will not
[13:54] (JCER): im playing the devils advocate
[13:54] (SnowFireWatches): anymore than alex will
[13:54] (SnowFireWatches): and i have
[13:54] (vlady): YES!! Snowfire
[13:54] (SnowFireWatches): thanks you very much
[13:54] (vlady): ED ZACHARY
[13:54] (KPAX): when i get a return email from th governmen t i will give it to you
[13:54] (KPAX): for fu*ks sake
[13:54] (SnowFireWatches): waht about everything else i asked for
[13:54] (vlady): That's still not proof KPAX
[13:55] (Edge25): er...hang on a minute, KPAX has provided SOMETHING hasn't he? what's Alex provided?
[13:55] (vlady): lol
[13:55] (Jovial_Ki): i know payton. doesn't mean im not scared of it. im scared of escalators too
[13:55] (vlady): phrases from a manual?
[13:55] (vlady): lol
[13:55] (KPAX): nada,zipo,nothin',zero
[13:55] (vlady): that dont mean SH**t either
[13:55] (SnowFireWatches): same as you kpax
[13:55] (SnowFireWatches): now hurry up and get me all that evidence
[13:55] (SnowFireWatches): i will not quit asking till i have it
[13:55] (SnowFireWatches): i want it now
[13:55] (vlady): lol
[13:56] (JCER): snow your not proving anythign
[13:56] (Jovial_Ki): you have to be more hostile. push him up aga
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[13:56] (JCER): snow your not proving anythign
[13:56] (Jovial_Ki): you have to be more hostile. push him up against a wall. choke him get out the whip.
[13:56] (JCER): kpax provided u with sometihng, alex has?
[13:56] (KPAX): you like will be laughing on th other side of you face if it hits the 6 o'clock news
[13:56] (vlady): snow does a good impersonation of that physicist that interrogated alex some nightsago
[13:56] (MadIce): SnowFireWatches: In the meantime keep asking Alex the same thing
[13:56] (Payton123456): haha jovial...it's all good...you should realize how little control you have of dying...even of escalators
[13:57] (Edge25): i hope nobody's scared of visits by the MIB?
[13:57] (Jovial_Ki): seriously. escalators should be banned from existance..the moving stairs..the moving handrail..your shoelace getting caught and then falling down:/
[13:57] (catman1): Whats worth the 6 o clocknews on this room???
[13:57] (Jovial_Ki): edge,I'll bake them a nice cake and we can sit and have tea.
[13:57] (KPAX): lol catmen
[13:59] (SnowFireWatches): kpax i still need that copy of your PI license, your DOB a copy of your ss card, a photo of you by your hometown sity limits sing
[13:59] (SnowFireWatches): i need it right NOW
[13:59] (SnowFireWatches): hometown city limits sign
[14:00] (Edge25): http://www.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/bbs/ultim...=9;t=001081;p=6
[14:00] (KPAX): such information was provided to Gavin get it fom him
[14:00] (SnowFireWatches): i want it from YOU
[14:00] (SnowFireWatches): I dont even know gavin
[14:00] (KPAX): too bad i am not going to give it to you
[14:00] (SnowFireWatches): i dont trust him either
[14:00] (catman1): I have a picture of the Arch to prove Im in St.Louis
[14:00] (SnowFireWatches): so YOU ARE A FRAUD AND A LIAR
[14:00] (KPAX): that is your problem then is'nt it
[14:00] (Edge25): JOHN TITOR DEBUNKED >>>http://www.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/bbs/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=001081;p=6
[14:01] (SnowFireWatches): KPAX YOUR ARE A FRAUD AND A LIAR
[14:01] (Edge25): ALEX DEBUNKED>>>http://www.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/bbs/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=001081;p=6
[14:01] (SnowFireWatches): (JUST TO PROVE MY POINT)
[14:01] (SnowFireWatches): now i am done
[14:01] (KPAX): i sent the information to Gavin on the fourms i have met my burden of proof
[14:01] (SnowFireWatches): you are not credible
[14:01] (SnowFireWatches): no you havent
[14:01] (SnowFireWatches): you are just sidestepping
[14:02] (SnowFireWatches): trying to divert
[14:02] (KPAX): you are an 1D!0T
[14:02] (SnowFireWatches): lol
[14:02] (SnowFireWatches): maybe but I am just copying you
[14:02] (Payton123456): your all poopoo heads
[14:02] (SnowFireWatches): everyone knows this is not me
[14:02] (Jovial_Ki): watch it.
[14:02] (Jovial_Ki): no insulting.
[14:02] (SnowFireWatches): this isme impersonating an idiot named KPAX
[14:02] (Payton123456): hehee sorry
[14:02] (SnowFireWatches): opss
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[14:02] (KPAX): got nothing original to offer eh SnowFireWatches
[14:03] (SnowFireWatches): ill take my punishment
[14:03] (SnowFireWatches): i gotta go read madice anyway
[14:03] (Edge25): http://www.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/bbs/ultim...=9;t=001081;p=6
[14:03] (Edge25): http://www.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/bbs/ultim...=9;t=001081;p=6
[14:03] (Edge25): http://www.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/bbs/ultim...=9;t=001081;p=6
[14:03] (SnowFireWatches): lol - you stole the whole idea youhave from me anyway KPAX LOL
[14:03] (Edge25): the story has finished boys and girls
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[14:03] (SnowFireWatches): get a grip man
[14:03] (Edge25): it's over!!!
[14:04] (SnowFireWatches): you seem to think i am stupid
[14:04] (Edge25): TITOR HAS BEEN DEBUNKED
[14:04] (KPAX): you are SnowFireWatches
[14:04] (SnowFireWatches): going edge
[14:06] (Edge25): show's over folks
[14:07] (Edge25): remember I said that Titor would be debunked within a week?
[14:07] (Payton123456): Edge...the show has been over...it's wether you've learned anything from the show or not...right?
[14:08] (Edge25): what's to learn? it's a fictional story with a malicious undertone
[14:09] (Payton123456): I could name at least 10 things I've learned from this fictional story
[14:09] (Edge25): and that undertone is the reason why the FBI have shown such an interest
[14:09] (KPAX): well now they willhave another one to look at
[14:09] (JCER): well its over then
[14:09] (KPAX): hehehe
[14:09] (Payton123456): learning isn't a crime man...thinking a different way isn't wrong
[14:10] (Payton123456): as long as you don't ACT on it
[14:10] (Edge25): the sad thing is...some people don't want it to be over
[14:10] (KPAX): no but when you try to get others to overthrow the government it is
[14:11] (Payton123456): anyone who would overthrow the govt. based on his story...is a national threat...not the one tellng the story
[14:11] (Edge25): that's debateable
[14:11] * Jovial_Ki sighs
[14:11] (Payton123456): BS!!! it's called freedom of speech!! he's american..he was exercising that right
[14:12] (Edge25): with freedom of speech comes responsibility...
[14:12] (Edge25): why the sign Jovial?
[14:12] (Edge25): *sigh
[14:12] (Jovial_Ki): my headache has returned.
[14:12] (Edge25): why? upset that Titor has been debunked?
[14:13] (KPAX): read the patriot acts freedom of speach is gone
[14:13] (Payton123456): no responsibility in freedom of speech...edge...that's why theres so much garbage on TV
[14:13] (Jovial_Ki): no. because of attitudes in here.
[14:13] (KPAX): the fantasy has ended that's why Edge25
[14:13] (Edge25): yep exactly
[14:13] (KPAX): i was thinking you were bright
[14:13] (Edge25): nothing to cling on to now...back to the boring real world
[14:13] (KPAX): lol
[14:14] (SnowFireWatches): ee.com/forums/Time_Travel_Hotel/index.php?showtopic=417&st=60&#e
[14:14] (SnowFireWatches): ughnot what i meant to do
[14:14] (Jovial_Ki): I've said repeatedly I'll never believe in a tt'er til I actually see him Time travel..so why would I care if they've been debunked?
[14:14] (SnowFireWatches): i dont get it anyway
[14:14] (catman1): SO...If everybody is all dubunked now...what do we do?? Lets go debunk Roswell or maybe Buffy the vampire slayer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[14:14] (SnowFireWatches): rick said he isnt sure?
[14:15] (Edge25): rick is sure
[14:15] (JCER): well its all over now
[14:15] (SnowFireWatches): correct me if I am wrong
[14:15] (JCER): ill be still on though
[14:15] (SnowFireWatches): everything is connected the book, the audio show, the JTfoundation
[14:15] (Edge25): yes
[14:16] (SnowFireWatches): what does it prove?
[14:16] (Edge25): JT Fan = John Titor
[14:16] (JCER): it was all a hoax to get $$$
[14:16] (SnowFireWatches): rick said not sure about that
[14:16] (catman1): We can all watch CNN everyday and watch Bush win and watchj 2-3 americans die every couple days....cause GWB says "DADDY I GOT SADDAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[14:16] (Edge25): he is only telling us half of the story though Snow
[14:16] (SnowFireWatches): doesnt it only prove that money is wanting to be made?
[14:16] (SnowFireWatches): i swear
[14:17] (JCER): JK
[14:17] (Edge25): the other half will come out and leave us in no doubt that Titor is fake
[14:17] (SnowFireWatches): you guys are incredible
[14:17] (JCER): yes exactly
[14:17] (Edge25): you're grasping at straws now Snow
[14:17] (KPAX): Alex is a fraud because Titor is a fraud
[14:17] (SnowFireWatches): lol
[14:17] (JCER): yes
[14:17] (SnowFireWatches): i just WANT REAL PROOF
[14:17] (JCER): i got to take a nap
[14:17] (JCER): kpax
[14:17] (JCER): do somethin for me
[14:17] (KPAX): if i can i will
[14:17] (Edge25): it's amazing how Titor is debunked yet some still don't want to believe
[14:17] (JCER): call alex a pathetic excuse for a human being from JCER
[14:17] (SnowFireWatches): you are to eager
[14:17] (JCER): il be on later
[14:18] (JCER): late
[14:18] (JCER): s
[14:18] (SnowFireWatches): jiwill be the first to say you were right when the time comes
[14:18] (Edge25): the same way you're too eager to believe Alex?
[14:18] (SnowFireWatches): but it will never change my opinion of your tactics
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[14:18] (Edge25): tactics?
[14:18] (Jovial_Ki): ok. wait wait wait.
[14:18] (KPAX): you know i hate to say i told you so...but ITOLD YOU SO
[14:18] (SnowFireWatches): lol
[14:18] (Jovial_Ki): we're not suppose to believe a TT'er from the beginning but a debunker should be believed wihout any doubt?
[14:18] (Jovial_Ki): isn't that hypocritical?
[14:19] (SnowFireWatches): thats what they seem to be saying
[14:19] (Edge25): the difference is that the debunker is providing proof
[14:19] (Edge25): and will provide 100% proof within days
[14:19] (Edge25): also, I trust Rick Donaldson
[14:19] (SnowFireWatches): also that becasue we are unconvinced by what convinces them we are fools and to eager to believe
[14:19] (SnowFireWatches): it is fruitless to even talk to people like this
[14:19] (KPAX): it is called the administrator of anomalies doing an investigation because he suspected something was up and wanted to prove it
[14:20] (catman1): MIGHT AS WELL CHANGE THE NAME OF THIS ROOM!!! iM NOT ABOUT TO SAY WHAT IS OUGHT TO SAY!!!!
[14:20] *** [#AlexanderTTonline] Punishing catman1 (~[email protected]) Caps abuse - 98% - Offense 1 (kick)
[14:20] *** catman1 was kicked by Jorune (Caps abuse - 98%)
[14:20] (SnowFireWatches): ugh - that script needs to go lol
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[14:20] (SnowFireWatches): well i will wait for the proof
[14:21] (SnowFireWatches): while youguys go around purporting it to already be proof
[14:21] (Edge25): you won't have to wait long
[14:21] (SnowFireWatches): who has got the slanted perception around here
[14:21] (Edge25): you have
[14:21] (SnowFireWatches): you make me laugh
[14:21] (Edge25): you refuse to believe the story has been debunked even when the evidence is all there
[14:22] (Edge25): it's quite sad the way you NEED this story
[14:22] (KPAX): pamela helped prove it...that was a surprise
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[14:22] (SnowFireWatches): it is not all there - and i never believe this story anyway
[14:22] (SnowFireWatches): but the proof is not there
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[14:22] (Edge25): ok Snow, I beieve you
[14:22] (vlady): does the connection to this thing drop out frequently?
[14:23] (Edge25): isn't it a bit...odd that Alex quit here just as the proof was surfacing on anomalies?
[14:23] (SnowFireWatches): not for me vlady
[14:23] (KPAX): oh yes...how convienent
[14:23] (vlady): hmmm (grumbles as he thinks he's missed a good conversaton)
[14:23] (SnowFireWatches): lol
[14:24] (Edge25): vlady is a 'he'?!
[14:24] (SnowFireWatches): i amgoing to go reread that page -
[14:24] (vlady): quick recap for me someone?
[14:24] (SnowFireWatches): lol edge that took me aback too
[14:24] (SnowFireWatches): have you been to the anomolies page?
[14:24] * KPAX is taking bets that Alexander er JTFan er Buzz will not be back
[14:24] (vlady): Edge> yes! its Vlad-EE not VEE-Lady (i seem to be getting this alot on IRC) hmmm
[14:24] (vlady):
[14:25] (Edge25): KPAX - i would be surprised if Alex show's his face again
[14:25] (KPAX): Holy Time Displacement Units, Batman!!
[14:25] (vlady): Edge: i've read those posts at anomalies.. thanks for the link
[14:26] (SnowFireWatches): so what did you think vlady?
[14:27] *** GearBrainsAway is now known as GearBrains
[14:27] (vlady): i still stand by my thinking/reasoning... which doesnt require Alex or any TTer to be True or False. That is, if we were sent back to a past that we obviously know.. how would WE interact with the peopls of the time. What would be our message?
[14:28] (vlady): I saw a chat between Alex and some canadian lass which had nothing to do with TT or physics, but plain.. humanity... it was quite a good pieace i should have saved the log to
[14:28] (Jovial_Ki): my message would be. Don't come to IRC.
[14:28] (vlady): lol
[14:28] (vlady): high 5
[14:28] (SnowFireWatches): ok but that isnot what I asked - how does the posting there stand up as proof in youropinion?
[14:28] *** GearBrains is now known as GearBrainsAway
[14:28] (SnowFireWatches): so far
[14:29] * KPAX is away -[ Breakfast ]- at 06:35a -[ P:On / L:On ]-
[14:29] (vlady): i guess i'm like Payton, not necessarily believing Alex but finding validity in his story (minus the D**th and Destruction)
[14:30] (Jovial_Ki): i dont believe him but Im stressing the importance of acting mature on the channel.
[14:30] (Payton123456): thanks v...I almost felt "cultik" for a second
[14:31] (SnowFireWatches): well - nothing alex has siad is out of the realm of possiblity nor has been since before JT came on the scene - for that reason alone - even if things start happening it doesnt mean they are TT
[14:31] *** vlady (~[email protected]) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
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[14:32] (SnowFireWatches): but - what i want to know is do you find that thread satifying as "proof"
[14:33] (Edge25): because I trust Rick Donaldson
[14:33] (vlady): no... it prooved to me that a) a TT refuses to provide it. B) the Debunker(s) showed motives to have the TT investigated... which is really what wer're all trying to do... just using different methods
[14:33] (vlady): Dont trust anybody
[14:33] (vlady): i've learned that the hard way
[14:34] (Edge25): Rick says JT Fan = John Titor
[14:34] (SnowFireWatches): let me go get a quote
[14:34] (vlady): I don't know Donaldson, but if he's provided an email then we have to have that investigated and verified by someone else... that's what proof is about - independent verification
[14:34] * KPAX is back -[ Breakfast ]- gone 5 min 26 s
[14:34] (vlady): lol
[14:35] (vlady): u from Oz KPAX?
[14:35] (Edge25): this is ridiculous. Titor and Alex are fakes. Get over it.
[14:35] (SnowFireWatches): lol
[14:35] (SnowFireWatches): ok good bye then
[14:35] (SnowFireWatches): you are done with it right?
[14:35] (SnowFireWatches): so why you still here?
[14:35] (vlady): lol
[14:35] (KPAX): we want to point and laugh
[14:35] (Jovial_Ki): he wants to see alex debunked.
[14:36] (SnowFireWatches): just as i suspected lol
[14:36] (Edge25): yes, i want to talk to alex again
[14:36] (Edge25): i was here from day 1 and i intend to stay until the very last day
[14:36] (KPAX): never happen
[14:36] (SnowFireWatches): question
[14:37] (SnowFireWatches): how come I cant get some lines to copy in the anamolies so i can paste them?
[14:37] (SnowFireWatches): i just get thelink when i do that?
[14:37] (Edge25): no idea Snow
[14:37] (SnowFireWatches): I'm reasonably certain, they are the same person. THAT I can't prove at this point and personally do not intend to persue that avenue. However, I know of some folks using some forensics techniques that may hit some pay dirt . I'm stepping back out of this whole thing in a few weeks. I have a couple of "loose ends" to tie up then I am done with the whole hoax.
[14:37] (KPAX): it does'nt let believers copy and paste....ROFL
[14:37] (SnowFireWatches): there that is quote
[14:38] (Jovial_Ki): She's NOT a believer.
[14:38] (Jovial_Ki): are you totally not reading anything she says?
[14:38] (vlady): digesting is probably the better word
[14:39] (SnowFireWatches): they are just button pushers -
[14:39] (Jovial_Ki): heh probably
[14:39] (SnowFireWatches): havent found the correct ones yet
[14:39] (Edge25): he's gonna prove it soon - that's what the quote says basically
[14:39] (MadIce): It looks grim for our Alex. It seems he digged his grave. Even Phoenix doesn't seem to like him anymore.
[14:39] (SnowFireWatches): lol you cant read either
[14:39] (KPAX): ok hang on.... SnowFireWatches rags my a** for being to hard on alex telling me he is real now suddenly she is converted?
[14:39] (Edge25): it's 80% proven - still that 20% to go
[14:39] (MadIce): That link Alex has provided sure didn't do him any good
[14:39] (SnowFireWatches): youtotally dont get it KPAX
[14:39] (KPAX): lol
[14:39] (Edge25): what link MadIce?
[14:40] * Jovial_Ki headdesk headdesk headdesk
[14:40] (vlady): yes, i do agree MadIce..
[14:40] (SnowFireWatches): it was not that i believe alex
[14:40] (KPAX): do tell SnowFireWatches
[14:40] (SnowFireWatches): what i believe is you treat him poorly
[14:40] (vlady): i think it skewed my perception of him as soon as i saw that link
[14:40] (KPAX): no io treated him like th fraud he is
[14:40] (MadIce): http://www.hermes-press.com/police_state.htm
[14:40] (MadIce): This one
[14:40] (MadIce): That was his "proof"
[14:41] (SnowFireWatches): who's?
[14:41] (MadIce): Alex posted that link on the forum
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[14:41] (MadIce): To me that proves he is a warmongering extremist.
[14:41] (KPAX): me too
[14:41] (MadIce): Click on it
[14:42] (vlady): i dont know about extremist.
[14:42] (KPAX): and that if the truth be know is the group he was recruiting for
[14:42] (MadIce): Click on it
[14:42] (vlady): where's the source on that from KPAX?
[14:42] (KPAX): Neo Nazis
[14:42] (MadIce): That was in response to vlady
[14:42] (SnowFireWatches): well i said that my first day in here - what are his motives
[14:42] (KPAX): checking
[14:42] (MadIce): That are his motives
[14:42] (SnowFireWatches): and pointed that as possible
[14:42] (SnowFireWatches): it is in the logs so gimme a break
[14:43] (MadIce): SnowFireWatches: Of course
[14:43] (MadIce): It is a very scary link.
[14:43] (SnowFireWatches): ugh
[14:43] (SnowFireWatches): yes and that quote
[14:43] (SnowFireWatches): how many times has alex quoted that
[14:43] (KPAX): where ever it is it has some serious security
[14:44] (vlady): wait.. ok.. the site is extreme... but..
[14:44] (vlady): i dont believe it is neo-nazi...
[14:44] (vlady): it has a nazi symbol
[14:44] (MadIce): He is reality for you
[14:44] (MadIce): Here is reality for you
[14:44] (vlady): but i believe the context is based on saying that the us is ALREADY in such ap osition
[14:45] (MadIce): I call that blabla, vlady.
[14:45] (vlady): what did he quote?
[14:46] (SnowFireWatches): alex gave that link? lol - what a poor choice - he could have jsut link to jeff rense or RMN
[14:46] (KPAX): Node Net Reg IP Address Location Node Name
[14:46] (KPAX): 20 1 1 69.93.99.226 Dallas 226.69-93-99.reverse.theplanet.com
[14:46] (SnowFireWatches): I'm reasonably certain, they are the same person. THAT I can't prove at this point and personally do not intend to persue that avenue. However, I know of some folks using some forensics techniques that may hit some pay dirt . I'm stepping back out of this whole thing in a few weeks. I have a couple of "loose ends" to tie up then I am done with the whole hoax.
[14:46] *** GearBrainsAway is now known as GearBrains
[14:46] (SnowFireWatches): ugh again sorry
[14:46] (SnowFireWatches): not what i meant
[14:47] (MadIce): I can take picture of a football match fight and put any text under it I like that has nothing to do with the fight. If I publish it in a newspaper does it make it real?
[14:47] (SnowFireWatches): "None are more hopelessly enslaved than
[14:47] (SnowFireWatches): those who falsely believe they are free."
[14:47] (SnowFireWatches): Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
[14:47] (SnowFireWatches): that one
[14:47] (KPAX): registered in dallas but server is actually outsiode Kansas City IL
[14:47] (KPAX): outside
[14:47] (SnowFireWatches): kansas city is nowhere near illinois
[14:48] (SnowFireWatches): well close but doesnt share a border
[14:48] (vlady): yes... K i remember him quoting that
[14:48] (MadIce): So, anyone want to hear some more of Alex's predictions now?
[14:48] (SnowFireWatches): i think i have them down
[14:48] (vlady): I realise what you mean MadIce, context is everyting
[14:48] *** MadIce sets mode: +vv vlady ZiggyStarchild
[14:49] (KPAX): double checking location
[14:49] (SnowFireWatches): st louis maybe?
[14:50] (SnowFireWatches): that straddles missouri and illinois
[14:50] (MadIce): Boy. Am I glad this is over. It was too ugly. A nuclear holocaust. I used the phrase "warmongering extremist" several times. I am glad we have proof of that now.
[14:50] (Edge25): yep
[14:50] (KPAX): the server to the site is jhust outside KansasCity MO
[14:52] (SnowFireWatches): not exctly extremeist country
[14:52] (SnowFireWatches): but what does it mean?
[14:52] (SnowFireWatches): i am in canada
[14:53] (KPAX): what does what mean?
[14:53] (vlady): Ok. what is the protocol in case Alex does come back on IRC?
[14:53] (SnowFireWatches): my hubby has a site the server is in california
[14:53] (MadIce): Do not ban him
[14:53] (KPAX): demand proof
[14:53] (vlady): lol
[14:53] (vlady): of course
[14:53] (MadIce): Let him talk and dig his own grave.
[14:53] (KPAX): then demand it again cos he won't provided it
[14:53] (vlady): see, i like MadICe's style... very gracious
[14:53] (SnowFireWatches): KPAX i hope will lay off the interogation technique
[14:54] (SnowFireWatches): it is not fruitful
[14:54] (KPAX): when all else fails ...demand proof
[14:54] (SnowFireWatches): <<<< shaking my head in disbelief
[14:54] (KPAX): no i was quite fruitful
[14:54] (MadIce): Yes. Do not pressure him, KPAX. We now know more. We will soon find out more.
[14:54] (SnowFireWatches): frightful not fruitful
[14:54] (vlady): not for me
[14:55] (KPAX): he has a week spot
[14:55] (vlady): i understand your motive, i dont agree with your method.
[14:55] (KPAX): an i know what it is
[14:55] (SnowFireWatches): your ego is the only thing that benefited from your little demo so please spare us next time PLEASE
[14:56] (MadIce): If he is in a room you can lock then interrogation may work. I don't like such techniques. But it sure does not work on IRC. He can just move.
[14:56] (KPAX): you thinks this is about me...do you think i like to prove people liars on a daily if not weekly basis?
[14:56] (MadIce): I don't think it is about you.
[14:56] (SnowFireWatches): right now this is about you and your technique
[14:56] (SnowFireWatches): it isnt working
[14:57] (SnowFireWatches): you are not proving anything
[14:57] (vlady): i like entrapment by well placed questions WITHOUT harassment which i have seen MadIce perform... the problem witht hat is interpretation on both sides since it is just text on screen,, cant hear the voice see the eyes
[14:57] (MadIce): I am just giving my opinion. You have yours. We both want to find out the truth. We already know he is a hoax.
[14:57] (SnowFireWatches): you make it impossible for civil people to ask questions that may lead in the same direction
[14:58] (KPAX): you only seem to be worried about alex for you own selfish means SnowFireWatches ... I have proven Alex to be a liar ad a fraud so that people could move on and not worry about a civil war that will probably not happen or indeed how long we have left
[14:58] (MadIce): IRC is too slippery.
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[14:58] (catman1): Ladies and gentlemen, thanks to Rick, this is Endgame for the "John Titor Foundation."
[14:58] *** MadIce sets mode: +v catman1
[14:58] (SnowFireWatches): please move on then KPAX
[14:58] (vlady): ... so it is best to lead the cnversation for lonmg periods of time so we can elicit lots of responses which we can go over with a fine tooth comb... MUCH diferent to firing point blank range
[14:59] (SnowFireWatches): I will leave when I am done
[14:59] (SnowFireWatches): this has turned into a religion for you
[14:59] (KPAX): you think i am done with that little sH8t Alex...you are kidding right?
[14:59] (MadIce): No
[15:00] (MadIce): I am not either.
[15:00] (vlady): you definitely hav emade this personal KPAX
[15:00] (SnowFireWatches): i have better things to do than this KPAX - clearly you will not go with the flow around here
[15:00] (SnowFireWatches): it is my hope that we can talk to alex either with being civil
[15:00] (KPAX): yes because i was lied to by someone i thoughti could trust
[15:00] (SnowFireWatches): or in a rom where you are not present
[15:00] (MadIce): Please name him or her, KPAX.
[15:00] (SnowFireWatches): i state my opinion clearly so you know where I stand regarding your "technique"
[15:01] (SnowFireWatches): not your GOAL
[15:01] (vlady): Then name him/her then
[15:01] (SnowFireWatches): which is the same as everyone elses
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[15:01] (KPAX): I though i could trust alexander
[15:01] (H1t|M4n): I need to say this
[15:01] (KPAX): an he lied
[15:02] (SnowFireWatches): so this is about your feelings
[15:02] *** GearBrains sets mode: +v H1t|M4n
[15:02] (MadIce): Hm. I though it was one of us.
[15:02] (SnowFireWatches): please hitman
[15:02] (SnowFireWatches): speak
[15:02] (KPAX): his betrayal and lies and fraud will not go unpunished
[15:02] (SnowFireWatches): bring sanity to the room if you can
[15:02] (SnowFireWatches): i told you - you are the one letting it become a religion
[15:02] * GearBrains laughs
[15:02] (vlady): punishment! that's what it's about... revenge?!!
[15:02] (SnowFireWatches): step back
[15:02] (SnowFireWatches): breath
[15:03] (vlady): lol
[15:03] (vlady): wow... this has turned into something heavy going...
[15:03] (KPAX): but since you bring it up i find it difficult to trust anyone on the forums adn mIRC save one person who will remain nameless
[15:03] (GearBrains): hitman you were saying...
[15:04] (H1t|M4n): someone posted under Opmmur's name on anomalies,and posted some things that are very untrue,I'm going to ask Pamela or if anyone can ask Pamela to look up the ips so that we can all clear this up,because i know as a fact that, Opmmur would never post something like that .
[15:04] (KPAX): liars pay full price
[15:04] (KPAX): what is the link H1t|M4n?
[15:04] (Edge25): Hitman - could you link me to this please?
[15:04] (Edge25): beat me to it KPAX
[15:04] (vlady): yes please
[15:04] (MadIce): You have a link, Tony?
[15:05] (H1t|M4n): In other words there is someone running around with Opmmur's nick,in short someone hacked his nick from that site and then posted under his name .
[15:05] (MadIce): Geez
[15:05] (SnowFireWatches): ok - i think we all consider opmmur gentle folk so just let us see what he DIDNT post
[15:05] (SnowFireWatches):
[15:06] (KPAX): H1t|M4n just eamil [email protected]
[15:06] (H1t|M4n): k
[15:06] (H1t|M4n): i will KPAX
[15:06] (vlady): ok... my only anomaly with the whole Alex thing is Opmmur got convinced based on the conversation with that 'stupid' expert physicist.. That 's what i want cleared up
[15:06] (vlady): if opmmur were only here...
[15:07] (KPAX): because if the person who did this is coems into TTI he/she will be blacklisted
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[15:07] (SnowFireWatches): thatt surprised me as well
[15:07] (SnowFireWatches): vlady
[15:07] (Edge25): link Hitman?
[15:07] (vlady): and i do think that physicist let himself down with his 'technique'
[15:07] (SnowFireWatches): yes
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[15:07] (SnowFireWatches): bully's never really win
[15:07] (Rauite): did alex get on at all last night?
[15:08] *** MadIce sets mode: +vv Rauite ZiggyStarchild
[15:08] (KPAX): yes
[15:08] (Rauite): oh hey kpax
[15:08] *** vlady (~[email protected]) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
[15:08] (SnowFireWatches): rautie there is lts to catch up on short story is alex was here today and nothing new was said
[15:08] *** vlady (~[email protected]) has joined #AlexanderTTonline
[15:08] (Rauite): that sucks
[15:08] (Rauite): nothing new ever happens now
[15:09] (vlady): what is up with this connection!??!
[15:09] (vlady): grrr
[15:09] (KPAX): and when asked for proof he did'nt give any as usual
[15:09] (vlady): what i miss?
[15:09] (Rauite): nothing at all
[15:09] *** GearBrains sets mode: +v vlady
[15:09] (SnowFireWatches): and when KPAX was put to the same scrutiny he also failed to rpoduce
[15:09] (Rauite): hahah
[15:09] (vlady): LOL
[15:09] (KPAX): bull
[15:09] (SnowFireWatches): so we are still at the starting gate
[15:10] (Rauite): you never hear about the chicago bulls much anymore
[15:10] (Rauite): i guess they suck now or something
[15:10] (MadIce): Rauite: But remember Alex posted this link on the forum -> http://www.hermes-press.com/police_state.htm
[15:10] (KPAX): you really are a Bitch S
[15:10] (Edge25): do you mean this thread Hitman >>>http://www.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/bbs/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=000929
[15:10] (MadIce): Alex considered that neo-nazi link proof
[15:10] (SnowFireWatches): lol - you are pushing your luck KPAX
[15:11] (SnowFireWatches): I am honest
[15:11] (SnowFireWatches): and I am fair
[15:11] (SnowFireWatches): I would love to say the same for you
[15:11] (KPAX): no i told you i provided proof to the administrator of the forum
[15:11] (SnowFireWatches): that isnt what i asked for
[15:11] (KPAX): i provide the link whe he acknowledges the proof
[15:11] (SnowFireWatches): so to me you hold no more water than alex
[15:12] (KPAX): crap
[15:12] (SnowFireWatches): i want to know everything about you
[15:12] (Edge25): i'm going now
[15:12] (SnowFireWatches): i dont want someone else word on it
[15:12] (vlady): LMAO
[15:12] (H1t|M4n): Edge25 there are others that were posted also,thats not the one btw
[15:12] (Edge25): see you all tommorrow
[15:12] (KPAX): well i told you i would not give it to you
[15:12] (Rauite): hahah you had no proof that alex was fake kpax
[15:12] (SnowFireWatches): bye edge
[15:12] (Edge25): ok Hitman
[15:12] (Edge25): bye all
[15:12] (GearBrains): bye edge
[15:12] *** Edge25 ([email protected]) has left #AlexanderTTonline
[15:12] (vlady): bye
[15:12] (SnowFireWatches): yes so i called you a liar and a fraud like you did to alex
[15:13] (SnowFireWatches): i stand by my assessment until i see your proof
[15:13] (Rauite): during war, would one side really say were being shot at! lets try to make them sick with sound waves!
[15:13] (KPAX): and you have done it without checking evidence
[15:13] (SnowFireWatches): bye vlady
[15:13] (SnowFireWatches): we are boring everyone kpax
[15:13] (vlady): no.. i was saying by to Edge!
[15:13] (KPAX): which makes you a fuc8ing fool SnowFireWatches
[15:13] (vlady):
[15:13] (SnowFireWatches): bye kpax
[15:13] (Rauite): bye kpax
[15:13] (ZiggyStarchild): adios
[15:13] (Rauite): hes more immature than i am
[15:13] (Rauite): and im 14
[15:14] *** SnowFireWatches sets mode: +b *!*@dialup-202-45-107-166.Brisbane.netspace.net.au
[15:14] *** [#AlexanderTTonline] Banned- KPAX
[15:14] *** KPAX was kicked by MadIce (Banned (*!*@dialup-202-45-107-166.Brisbane.netspace.net.au))
[15:14] (Jovial_Ki): i was just about to do that!
[15:14] (Jovial_Ki): haha
[15:14] (SnowFireWatches): someone else will just let him back in and thats ok
[15:14] (SnowFireWatches): for now
[15:14] (SnowFireWatches): lol
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Snow Fire Watches post Sep 30 2004, 12:04 AM
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[11:50] *** Guest85658 (~[email protected]) has joined #AlexanderTTonline
[11:52] (Guest85658): is there anyone out there today in this sea of information?
[11:52] (Edge25): hello Alex
[11:52] *** KPAX (~[email protected]) has joined #AlexanderTTonline
[11:52] (Guest85658): hello Edge25
[11:52] *** Guest85658 is now known as AlexanderTT
[11:52] (AlexanderTT): i wish I didnt have to use the TT after my name
[11:52] (Edge25): how's things in Alabama?
[11:52] (GearBrains): welcone alex
[11:52] (GearBrains): welcome
[11:52] (AlexanderTT): i hear thunder in the distance but it is still sunny
[11:53] (ZiggyStarchild): It's beautiful where I am
[11:53] (Edge25): just getting dark in England
[11:53] (AlexanderTT): so , libya has plutonium, I didnt remember reading about that, but oh well
[11:53] (AlexanderTT): doesnt matter anyway
[11:54] *** GearBrains sets mode: +o AlexanderTT
[11:54] (Edge25): oh yeah, Alex - Thelper asked me to tell you that their was a conspiracy behind 9/11
[11:54] (Edge25): don't know why he asked me, he just did
[11:54] (AlexanderTT): of course there was, I told everyone about it
[11:54] (LynneSny): Hi Alexander
[11:54] (Edge25): i must have missed that log
[11:56] (AlexanderTT): hold im reading the new posts
[11:56] (vlady): Alex, we have created another room that will be specially moderated so that you don't get banned, kicked or 'handled' which would prevent good conversation to be had. The room is called #AlexnderTheGreatTT
[11:56] (AlexanderTT): please excuse me for just a moment
[11:56] (Edge25): we don't need MORE rooms surely?!
[11:56] (AlexanderTT): nice name for a room
[11:56] (vlady): Edge, its to help moderate against previous instances... check the logs
[11:57] (Edge25): ok
[11:57] (KPAX): a theory has developed that you are a member of a subversive mailitia hell bent on the overthrow of the US Government what do is you response to that AlexanderTT?
[11:58] (LynneSny): Alex you will be made sysop of the new room if you will log on?
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[12:02] (ZiggyStarchild): Welcome back KPAX
[12:03] (KPAX): i put it to you Alexander that you are a member of a subversive group hell bent on the overthrow of the United States Government and that you are not a TT at all...waht do you have to say about that?
[12:04] (Edge25): ...?
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[12:04] (SnowFireWatches): YAY
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[12:05] *** [#AlexanderTTonline] Banned- KPAX
[12:05] *** KPAX was kicked by MadIce (Banned (*!*@dialup-202-45-107-166.Brisbane.netspace.net.au))
[12:05] (Edge25): why was he kicked?
[12:05] (Edge25): and banned?
[12:05] (SnowFireWatches): but i would like an answer to his question though
[12:05] (LynneSny): whew
[12:05] (ZiggyStarchild): Yeah think you guys jumped the gun a bit. He did ask a liget question.
[12:06] (SnowFireWatches): why can be a topic forlater discussion
[12:06] (GearBrains): thanks snow
[12:07] (SnowFireWatches): the question is good
[12:07] (Edge25): Gear Brains - KPAX wants to know why he was banned?
[12:07] (SnowFireWatches): the questioner has issues
[12:08] (SnowFireWatches): I think we all agree we want a room that Alex will talk in.
[12:08] (LynneSny): ANd everything possible will be done not to offend Alex again.
[12:09] (SnowFireWatches): agreed
[12:09] (GearBrains): this room is for alex- and kpax has a habit of getting out of hand- you asked
[12:10] (GearBrains): i answered
[12:10] (LynneSny): ALex, how are you this afternoon?
[12:11] (vlady): Edge, KPAX is set to debunk Alex in an agressive way which removes from the objectivity and enjoyment of our discussion. On top of that, some seriosly weird 'stuff' is going on with regards to Alex's posted material... so until anyone has conclusive PROOF that he is a hoax, then Alex should be entitled to talk to everyone else
[12:11] (GearBrains): i will allow KPAX to be unbanned only at alex's request
[12:11] (vlady): in a safe nonagreesive environment
[12:12] (AlexanderTT): GearBrains, i have stated numerous times that I do not fear KPAX , and that I hope to show him the error in his logic
[12:12] (AlexanderTT): i think the room sould vote on it, it should not be my descision
[12:12] (vlady): Hi Alex, welcome
[12:12] (AlexanderTT): hello everyone
[12:12] (SnowFireWatches): does that mean you want him in the room alex?
[12:12] (AlexanderTT): i fear that my time is short
[12:13] (LynneSny): Does anyone have the url of pheonix's post so Alex may read it.
[12:13] (AlexanderTT): it doesnt matter to me either way, i actually like the confrontation, it is pointless but fun for me
[12:13] (SnowFireWatches): KPAX is ~[email protected] * KPAX
[12:13] (SnowFireWatches): KPAX using matrix.de.eu.dal.net www.arcor.de - Arcor Online Services
[12:13] (SnowFireWatches): KPAX has identified for this nick
[12:13] (SnowFireWatches): KPAX has been idle 0secs, signed on Fri Feb 20 09:25:00
[12:13] (SnowFireWatches): KPAX End of /WHOIS list.
[12:13] (SnowFireWatches): -
[12:13] (SnowFireWatches): oops
[12:13] (SnowFireWatches): http://invisionfree.com/forums/Time_Travel...415&st;=15&#last
[12:14] (AlexanderTT): i have read that post
[12:14] (LynneSny): Alex, the above url is why we have takin drastic measures.
[12:14] (SnowFireWatches): then are you saying that pheonix made this post without your inpot alex?
[12:14] (AlexanderTT): and I apreciate pheonix trying to look out for me
[12:14] (Edge25): is KPAX going to be un-banned?
[12:14] (SnowFireWatches): he seemed to be speaking FOR you
[12:14] (ZiggyStarchild): Let's vote
[12:14] (AlexanderTT): everyone should vote
[12:14] (ZiggyStarchild): I say yes
[12:15] (GearBrains): to?
[12:15] (vlady): Let him speak
[12:15] (SnowFireWatches): not if it is up to me edge - but i will defer to a majority
[12:15] (Edge25): yes to what?
[12:15] (AlexanderTT): democracy people not dictatorship
[12:15] (ZiggyStarchild): let KPAX back in
[12:15] (vlady): aye
[12:15] (Edge25): ok hang on...Should KPAX be un-banned? yes or no?
[12:15] (vlady): yes
[12:15] (SnowFireWatches): no
[12:15] (AlexanderTT): i look forward to addressing his question
[12:15] (Edge25): yes
[12:15] (LynneSny): If Alex promises he won't leave, then yes to KPAX, otherwise No-way
[12:15] (AlexanderTT): well I have to leave in a little bit anyway
[12:16] (LynneSny): Not leave for good, I ment.
[12:16] (vlady): ... or doesnt leave because he's offended
[12:16] (SnowFireWatches): so just answer his question then alex or say what you wish to say today
[12:16] (Edge25): we need a quick decision then
[12:16] (AlexanderTT): if everyone hear gets tired of me and KPAX going at it, then you can ban him again so that I can address everyones questions
[12:16] (vlady): exactly
[12:16] (LynneSny): ok
[12:16] (ZiggyStarchild): Yay!
[12:17] (AlexanderTT): but I do like hearing stuff from the horses mouth
[12:17] (Edge25): so, is he un-banned?
[12:17] (AlexanderTT): not my descision
[12:17] (vlady): K Snow... i think that's a majority
[12:17] (MadIce): Goodmorning, everyone. Still not very awake. I need to make some coffee.
[12:17] (AlexanderTT): yuck coffe
[12:17] (LynneSny): IN your log two days ago you personally stated that you might very well throw in the towel, if offended again
[12:17] (vlady): lol
[12:18] (AlexanderTT): yes if I am to be treated as I was that day again, I am not a threat to you and I do not like being treated as such
[12:19] (vlady): Alex, can i ask whether the military have ever used children on TT missions?
[12:19] (AlexanderTT): i have only the best intentions in mind, yet I was treated as an enemy and I was quite upset
[12:19] (Edge25): Alex - are you aware that certain people seem to be very close in debunking John Titor and tracking him down?
[12:19] (AlexanderTT): no they havent
[12:19] (LynneSny): We are trying to keep the convorsation civil as best we can.
[12:19] (AlexanderTT): what would you call very close Edge25?
[12:20] (Edge25): close as in...knowing his real name, address and phone number
[12:20] (AlexanderTT): I know for a fact that they can't be, it is impossible to prove he is not a TT, because he was, however I am sure I will see false and made-up evidence
[12:21] (AlexanderTT): address and phone number? so Bellsouth can call worldlines now, thats neat!
[12:21] (GearBrains): /chanserv unban #channel [nick/*/nick!user@host]
[12:21] (Edge25): if John Titor was 'proven' to be a fake what explanation would you give?
[12:21] (AlexanderTT): but if you wish to pursue an impossible mission, then go right ahead
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[12:22] (AlexanderTT): that is not possible Edge25,So I havent given it any thought
[12:22] (Edge25): Alex - I must stress I am not tracking Titor down, Rick Donaldson is (and has) by the sounds of it
[12:22] (vlady): well i'd like to know what would define PROOF - name and number isnt enough.. they can be faked too
[12:23] (AlexanderTT): who is rick donaldson, and how can he find someone who is not there? unless he found a small boy
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[12:23] (KPAX): and if that is the case your little sharade will be over
[12:23] (vlady): no it wont
[12:23] (vlady): it will prove JT AND ALEX!!
[12:23] (vlady): JT was born in 1998 remember!
[12:23] (KPAX): lol yes vlady you are probably right
[12:24] (vlady): lol
[12:24] (AlexanderTT): hey everyone, I have proof that KPAX is a LIAR and FAKE, his address is 123 antagonist lane, and his phone number is 1-800-I hate the possibility that my life is predetermined to a point
[12:24] (KPAX): so the question i was banned for..care to answer it Alex?
[12:24] (AlexanderTT): i would love too
[12:24] (vlady): lol
[12:24] (AlexanderTT): they short answer is of course no
[12:24] (vlady): i like your dry sense of humour Alex
[12:25] (KPAX): so why the political agenda
[12:25] (KPAX): ?
[12:25] (vlady): no pun in that too (ie lack of water during your war)
[12:25] (AlexanderTT): i have no political agenda, your society and government does
[12:25] (vlady): you'll have to read Pheonix's post in the forum KPAX
[12:25] (vlady): we've taken measures to ensure a CIVIL discussion
[12:26] (KPAX): when you are proven a fake ..i am comng to see you alex...and then you are going to eat those words
[12:26] (AlexanderTT): coming to see me?
[12:26] (KPAX): yeah
[12:26] (AlexanderTT): and you wonder why TT'rs speaking up is rare!
[12:26] (vlady): ease up man!
[12:26] (AlexanderTT): well , real ones anyway
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[12:26] (Payton123456): hi everyone!
[12:27] (Edge25): Alex - I don't want to scare you but...the game is up man
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[12:27] (AlexanderTT): the game?
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[12:27] (Edge25): this whole story, it is crumbling day by day
[12:28] (vlady): they mean you're being fake and holding out
[12:28] (AlexanderTT): oh ok
[12:28] (Edge25): Titor will be proven a fake within a week, mark my words
[12:28] (vlady): 'they' as in the Alex debunkers
[12:28] (AlexanderTT): or proven real
[12:28] (vlady): is that a prediction Edge?!
[12:28] (vlady): lol
[12:28] (KPAX): what was the premis behind Time Travel Was it einstiens theory or Quantum mechanics that proved to be fruitful?
[12:28] (Edge25): yes it is lol
[12:28] (KPAX): Alexander
[12:28] (AlexanderTT): neither kpax
[12:29] (AlexanderTT): well to a point
[12:29] (KPAX): expalin
[12:29] (KPAX): explain
[12:29] (Edge25): when I say 'Titor' I mean 'the person(s) behind the character Titor'
[12:29] (vlady): KPAX, he's mentioned this before... search google for CERN research
[12:30] (vlady): you will have to make up your own mind as to what you dig up
[12:30] (Payton123456): I don't care if you guys think he's real or not...He's shown me a different way to think...and I thank him for that...wethere he's a liar or not...doesn't matter to me
[12:30] (Edge25): 'he's shown me a different way to think': that's why he could be so dangerous
[12:30] (KPAX): Alex explain that statement
[12:30] (AlexanderTT): wow Payton123456, thank you
[12:30] (AlexanderTT): in wich way? KPAX?
[12:30] (Payton123456): noo...nooo...thinking a different way isn't dangerous
[12:31] (KPAX): you say neither explain
[12:31] (AlexanderTT): Im still trying to decide what ecplanation would be satisfactory to you
[12:31] (KPAX): the truthful one
[12:31] (Edge25): lol
[12:31] (vlady): Alex, theres a line from a movie: explain it to me like i was a five year old
[12:31] (vlady):
[12:32] (KPAX): come on alex
[12:32] * KPAX taps his feet waiting for the answer
[12:32] (vlady): easy folks...he's obviously typing!
[12:33] (DWOMT): or googling
[12:33] (AlexanderTT): well, the easiest and less harmful way to explain is that hawking will re-think his theories almost completely, he will believe in TT and post his findings in a brief history of time "a new beginning"
[12:33] (vlady): is that a new publication then alex?
[12:33] (AlexanderTT): this is just the start of a brand new scientific way to see the now "multiverse"
[12:33] (KPAX): you have said that before...why does he rethinknhis theories?
[12:33] (KPAX): rethink his thoeries
[12:34] (AlexanderTT): on that I am not sure, something deffinetely changes his mind though
[12:34] (KPAX): where was he wrong?
[12:34] (vlady): he doesnt hit his head on the lavatory does he?
[12:34] (KPAX): explain that
[12:34] (KPAX): prolly
[12:34] (KPAX): lol
[12:34] (vlady): (sorry, BackToTheFuture reference)
[12:34] (AlexanderTT): i am not a scientist , but I believe that his theories were to fermly grounded in einstein, and has was thinking to much about wormholes and faster than light travel
[12:34] (KPAX): come on Marty...er Alex
[12:35] (AlexanderTT): neither of these will be need to TT
[12:35] (Edge25): Alex - I know what your answer is going to be but...the one way to prove this is to provide some actual evidence in the form of video clips of pictures. You say you'll do this when you leave but i honestly think it wouldn't make a difference if you posted them now. If someone wanted to track you down they could, with or without any video clip or photo...
[12:35] (KPAX): do you have any document or anything from you time with you?
[12:36] (AlexanderTT): well, Edge25, I just named a book that isnt out yet, if it is published would you not consider that proof?
[12:36] (KPAX): like a piece of paper?
[12:36] (Edge25): what book was that Alex?
[12:36] (vlady): he's got the manual to his machine, right?
[12:36] (AlexanderTT): a brief history of time "new beginnings"
[12:36] (AlexanderTT): yes I have the manual, and if I post anything soon it will be that, or portions from it
[12:37] (Edge25): and when will that be published?
[12:37] (KPAX): can you send to Opmmur a blood sample anonomously so it can be tested?
[12:37] (Edge25): the book i mean
[12:37] (KPAX): Alex?
[12:37] (AlexanderTT): a blood sample?
[12:37] (vlady): LOLOLOL
[12:37] (vlady): LMAO
[12:37] (Edge25): when will that book be published Alex?
[12:37] (KPAX): for DNA testing
[12:37] (AlexanderTT): your scaring me now
[12:37] (AlexanderTT): what purpose would that possibly serve
[12:37] (vlady): what, is oppmur a Jedi now? midiclorian counts? lol
[12:37] (KPAX): why ...it would prove several thing one way or another
[12:38] (AlexanderTT): like what? i have hazel colored eyes?
[12:38] (Edge25): when will that book be published Alex?
[12:39] (AlexanderTT): sooner than later
[12:39] (KPAX): no it would back you story to some extent because you DNA would be altered by the nuclear fallout and because of the food you eatr
[12:39] (AlexanderTT): I love replying like that
[12:39] (vlady): Alex, from what i understand of your TT method, you cant just fast forward in advance by 1-2 weeks then come back to our present day?
[12:39] (AlexanderTT): oh I see
[12:39] (AlexanderTT): hmmm, never thought about that
[12:39] (KPAX): hhmm gonna send it?
[12:39] (AlexanderTT): no vlady, I cant
[12:39] (Edge25): hmmmm doubt it KPAX
[12:39] (KPAX): guess not
[12:40] (KPAX): still no proof of you story
[12:40] (AlexanderTT): yes I doubt it too, sending my blood through public mail doesnt sound inviting
[12:40] (Edge25): Alex - could you not just type out a bit of your manual here?
[12:40] (KPAX): send it by medoical courier
[12:40] (KPAX): medical
[12:40] (Edge25): just a sentence or two
[12:40] (AlexanderTT): actually kpax, I am currently working on the proof you desire so much
[12:40] (vlady): what will that prove?
[12:40] (vlady): Edge?
[12:40] (AlexanderTT): i have done that before Edge25
[12:40] (Edge25): nothing, but it would be interesting
[12:40] (KPAX): tests could be run on the blood to see the levels of nuclear exposure
[12:41] (AlexanderTT): and I was told not to do it again
[12:41] (Edge25): why?
[12:41] (AlexanderTT): why not just meet someone in person and take that polygraph thing, also show my C404 and the manual, that is what I was planning
[12:41] (KPAX): oh a likely story...admit it you will not provide the proof because you have none
[12:42] (KPAX): i want proof to the same burden that a court will accept
[12:42] (Edge25): could you not just scan the manual and photo's of the time machine for us all to see, like JT did?
[12:43] (vlady): Alex, can you tell me how the Chinese 'invade' Australia (my home)
[12:43] (AlexanderTT): i dont see the point of this whole proof debate really, no matter what I do people can say that it is fake or a hoax, even if I made a jump in times square. so why cant we just talk about interesting things together
[12:43] (AlexanderTT): yes Edge25, and I plan on it
[12:43] (DWOMT): the chinese will come in rice ships
[12:43] (MadIce): Back
[12:43] (Edge25): why not do it today Alex?
[12:43] (KPAX): no because you have not provide any reason as to why youshould be believed
[12:44] (AlexanderTT): i dont have a scanner, or camera, and my friend who would have those things is out of town
[12:44] (Edge25): how convenient
[12:44] (KPAX): so let's concentrate on you providing proof
[12:44] (MadIce): The 2005 evidence is very convinient.
[12:44] (AlexanderTT): i never said to believe me KPAX
[12:44] (KPAX): i want proof you are a real TT
[12:44] (AlexanderTT): well, I want a pool full of virgins
[12:45] (Edge25): i have a suggestion...buy a camera, take a trip to your local library and scan the photo's and then come back here
[12:45] (KPAX): adn so would everyone is suspect
[12:45] (ZiggyStarchild): You can take stuff to almost any film store and scan them onto a CD or floppy
[12:45] (Edge25): exactly Ziggy
[12:45] (AlexanderTT): to a public store? this is excatly the type of thing I am talking about
[12:45] (Edge25): he's just making excuses
[12:45] (DWOMT): funny how Alex can get his hands on any PC games he wishes..but nothing as simple as a camera or a scanner
[12:45] (ZiggyStarchild): You use the machine yourself
[12:45] (AlexanderTT): well, my GPS has lots of programs stored in it
[12:45] (KPAX): if you are what you say Alex why do you evade shoeing evidence of it
[12:46] (AlexanderTT): but no camera
[12:46] (KPAX): showing
[12:46] (ZiggyStarchild): I've done it lots. People don't stand over your shoulder
[12:46] (Edge25): buy one
[12:46] (MadIce): Why is it important that you are to believed anyway, Alex? Does your mission fail if you are not believed?
[12:46] (Edge25): just buy one of those disposable camera, no big deal
[12:46] (AlexanderTT): because, then I would be hunted down like a dog , because everyone would love to see the TT'r and use his machine
[12:46] (Edge25): no you wouldn't though
[12:46] (AlexanderTT): it is not important if I am believed MadIce, and I do not care
[12:46] (KPAX): lemme guess they donj't use money in your time
[12:46] (Edge25): if someone wanted to hunt you down, they'd do it now
[12:47] (Edge25): with or without photo's
[12:47] (KPAX): provide evidence or be quiet alex
[12:47] (MadIce): Maybe keeping a low profile would be a smart thing to do, don't you think so? But unfortunately, you didn't do that. I wonder why.
[12:47] (Edge25): after all, JT did it and he didn't get tracked down despite being online for 3 months or something
[12:47] (AlexanderTT): well then KPAX, before I talk to you anymore, prove to me that you are KPAX!!!!
[12:47] (Edge25): that's a poor argument Alex
[12:48] (AlexanderTT): no its not, he cant
[12:48] (AlexanderTT): i am just trying to point out, that it is pointless to have this debate again
[12:48] (Edge25): what's stopping you going out and buying a camera, then scanning the photo's at a film store?
[12:48] (Payton123456): Why do you all care so much if he's real or not?
[12:49] (MadIce): He doesn't have to. KPAX does not claim to be a TTer. That is something different. TTers happen to have a cult-like status in our time, Alex.
[12:49] (AlexanderTT): how do you know I havent already done that Edge25?
[12:49] (ZiggyStarchild): You can get one at Wal Mart for $5.99
[12:49] (AlexanderTT): cult-like?
[12:49] (AlexanderTT): i hope not
[12:49] (MadIce): Yes
[12:49] (KPAX): hello people of 2004 I am a time traveller on a secret mission...you say (Paraphrasing) ..you have broken the foirst rule of a covert mission by telling us that...from a military stratagey point of view that was dumb Alex
[12:49] (Edge25): well, if you've already done it Alex, why don't you let us all see the photo's?
[12:49] (AlexanderTT): i never said my mission was secret
[12:49] (KPAX): you did
[12:50] (AlexanderTT): you just never asked the right questions about my mission
[12:50] (KPAX): cop out
[12:50] (SnowFireWatches): KPAX do not badger alex please
[12:50] (MadIce): Yes cult-like. You have noticed that. People love to listen to you and you loved to wave and bow to the crowd.
[12:50] (AlexanderTT): quote me then KPAX, give me a log or post, where I said it was a BIG SECRET
[12:50] (KPAX): i am in the middle of an interrogation
[12:50] (Edge25): if you provided these REAL photo's Alex, the hassling would stop
[12:50] (Payton123456): your interrogations aren't effective over the net KPAX!
[12:51] (AlexanderTT): interrogation? and you people wonder about why I do not provide proof
[12:51] (Payton123456): you can't call someone a name and expect them to break over the net
[12:51] (KPAX): what benefit to your "mission " does announcing yourself to us serve?
[12:51] (Edge25): we are growing tired Alex, we need to move on to the next stage and that stage is showing some actual evidence, or at least something new to argue about
[12:51] (MadIce): You don't provide proof because it is convenient. If you can you would even made me a believer.
[12:52] (Edge25): agreed MadIce
[12:52] (KPAX): come on alex answer my question
[12:52] (AlexanderTT): lets just say that you will all have what you are looking for sooner than you think so be patient and lets talk about something else that has a point to it
[12:52] (KPAX): no we want it now not later ...answer my question
[12:52] (Edge25): but that's the problem Alex, we've talked and talked and talked, it's time for something different
[12:53] (Edge25): i.e. some photo's to discuss
[12:53] (KPAX): what benefit to your "mission " does announcing yourself to us serve?
[12:53] (MadIce): Your friend Phoenix started the hostilities today, Alex. Don't blame us. Blame him.
[12:53] (AlexanderTT): ok then
[12:53] (KPAX): what benefit to your "mission " does announcing yourself to us serve?
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[12:53] (KPAX): what benefit to your "mission " does announcing yourself to us serve?
[12:53] (AlexanderTT): no more talk, its time for something different
[12:53] (KPAX): what benefit to your "mission " does announcing yourself to us serve?
[12:53] (KPAX): what benefit to your "mission " does announcing yourself to us serve?
[12:53] (KPAX): what benefit to your "mission " does announcing yourself to us serve?
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[12:53] (AlexanderTT): i had to find someone, and announcing myself let him know where I was
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[12:53] (AlexanderTT): you know this
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[12:54] (KPAX): answer the damn question
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[12:54] (Payton123456): KPAX your bien' a turd
[12:54] (AlexanderTT): of course according to him it was not neccassary
[12:54] (MadIce): I love this cript
[12:54] (AlexanderTT): i did
[12:54] (MadIce): I love this script
[12:54] (Edge25): KPAX - <AlexanderTT>- i had to find someone, and announcing myself let him know where I was
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[12:54] (MadIce): Sorry, KPAX
[12:54] (KPAX): who do you have to find
[12:54] (Edge25): so, Alex - do you agree that it is time for you to show these photos?
[12:55] (KPAX): ??
[12:55] (AlexanderTT): its too late KPAX, i found him
[12:55] (KPAX): give me his fgull name
[12:55] (KPAX): full name
[12:55] (KPAX): ok goive me his full name
[12:55] (AlexanderTT): according to him now or how you would recognise the name?
[12:55] (KPAX): evading
[12:55] (KPAX): giove me his full name
[12:55] (AlexanderTT): which one and I will provide
[12:55] (KPAX): all
[12:55] (AlexanderTT): he has had several
[12:56] (KPAX): all
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[12:56] (KPAX): address too
[12:56] (KPAX): dob
[12:56] (KPAX): d.o.b
[12:56] (AlexanderTT): now it is Simon, he has also been called Saint Germain, and Count do Fernadan
[12:56] (KPAX): ssn
[12:56] (KPAX): SSn#
[12:56] (Edge25): Simon who?
[12:56] (AlexanderTT): he has none
[12:56] (AlexanderTT): he just said Simon
[12:57] (KPAX): you are in America if he lives there he has a SSN
[12:57] (AlexanderTT): said Saint Germain was to obvious in public now
[12:57] (AlexanderTT): no KPAX, he is not American
[12:57] (KPAX): so
[12:57] (KPAX): i am not american and i have an ssn
[12:57] (AlexanderTT): you obviously dont know who saint Germain is
[12:57] (vlady): can he confirm the existence of Jesus then Alex?
[12:58] (AlexanderTT): he claims he was at the last supper, I have told this before
[12:58] (KPAX): come on i am still waiting for all the names this person uses/d
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[12:58] (AlexanderTT): well the other one , I cant spell
[12:58] (vlady): yes... but was Jesus a mystical figure or was he a political figure/leader whose story got twisted through the ages
[12:58] (AlexanderTT): sounds like a noise to me
[12:58] (KPAX): try
[12:58] (Edge25): that's the problem Alex - you have told us this before. I said earlier, it's time for something new to talk about. Photos please.
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[12:58] *** GearBrains sets mode: +v vlady
[12:59] (KPAX): come on alex names date of bith, SSN
[12:59] (AlexanderTT): ok Edge25, your right, it is pointless for me to have this debate right now with all of you
[12:59] (SnowFireWatches): alex dont leave
[12:59] (KPAX): you keep making cliams but you can't back them up
[12:59] (Edge25): if people want to know about St. Germain then they can read the logs
[13:00] (KPAX): claims
[13:00] (Edge25): i'd like something new to talk about i.e. photos
[13:00] (AlexanderTT): really? do research on saint germain KPAX you will see what I am talking about
[13:00] (AlexanderTT): come one a simple google search and youve got it
[13:00] (KPAX): no i want mames dates SSN's
[13:00] (Edge25): one simple trip to the local film store Alex...
[13:00] (AlexanderTT): oh this is pointless, those dont apply to him KPAX
[13:00] (KPAX): you make the claims you provide the proof i check nthe proof out
[13:01] (KPAX): why?
[13:01] (vlady): Hmmm... to try something out here...
[13:01] (AlexanderTT): no KPAX, that is not how it works with me, I provide you information, you decide what you think about it, you dont believe me then fine, dont believe
[13:01] (vlady): KPAX do you believe JFK was shot by a lone gunman?
[13:01] (KPAX): i have asked you to prove you claims you don't ..do you see why nobody will believe you?
[13:02] (KPAX): that is not at issue here
[13:02] (vlady): i dont NOT believe him KPAX
[13:02] (AlexanderTT): actually KPAX, it is
[13:02] (AlexanderTT): vlady, makes a good point
[13:02] (AlexanderTT): lets talk about something else
[13:02] (KPAX): come on alex go\ive mne the names of theis person you had to save....DOB and SSN
[13:02] (AlexanderTT): and no I dont think he was vlady
[13:02] (KPAX): no
[13:02] (KPAX): i wnat you to give me full names
[13:02] (Edge25): Alex - you said that you only came here in the 1st place to make contact with the 'immortal', now you have him. why keep coming here?
[13:03] (SnowFireWatches): kpax you are being rude and i am asking you to stop
[13:03] (ZiggyStarchild): I agree. KPAX we all voted you back in.
[13:03] (ZiggyStarchild): Please be nice
[13:03] (AlexanderTT): Kpax, research that name, he has no ssn or dob that anyone but him knows
[13:03] (Edge25): it should be up to Alex whether or not KPAX gets kicked
[13:03] (KPAX): i am not being rude i want real answers to my questions not gibbberish
[13:03] (vlady): Alex what topic(s) did you want to talk about? what have you learned recently that we can discuss?
[13:03] (AlexanderTT): Edge25, I still have friends here that I care about, and besides it is very interesting to me also
[13:03] (Jovial_Ki): H'es obviously not wanting or can't give that info..if you keep hassling him It's not going to make him give it to you..He'll just be more stubborn.
[13:04] (KPAX): another kick...well that is the solution to the question of Alex providing real proof
[13:04] (Edge25): if he's gonna come on the net as a TTer he has to expect this kind of reaction
[13:04] (AlexanderTT): i dont want anyone kicked
[13:04] (SnowFireWatches): not here he doesnt
[13:04] (Edge25): it can't all be namby pamby
[13:04] (KPAX): can't stand the heat alex...get outr of the kitchen
[13:04] (vlady): Edge it doesnt mean we have to GIVE IT to him
[13:04] (Jovial_Ki): i agree with you snowfire completely
[13:04] (Edge25): that's exactly the phrase i was thinking of KPAX
[13:05] (Edge25): so...
[13:05] (KPAX): come on you could'nt measure up to a scientific interrorgation anow you can't measure up to a PI's questions
[13:06] (Edge25): and you refuse to provide photo's and videos now, despite it being a simple thing to do
[13:06] (AlexanderTT): however, sadly this has been a wate of my time, and I have to go , and I was not able to talk about what I wanted to which would have been considered proof, if anyone (KPAX) would just stop badgering me and give me a minute to explain I would far surpase your expectations, I was going to talk about the technology behind the C404 today and also show you drastic changes in the concepts of your current theories and equations, but I have to go n
[13:06] (SnowFireWatches): PI ha! You are nothing but a bully KPAX
[13:06] (AlexanderTT): maybe next time
[13:06] (KPAX): so alexyou toldd us you were here to save someone what is his name/s DOB and SSN
[13:06] (Jovial_Ki): lovely.
[13:06] (Jovial_Ki): Bye alex have a nice afternoon
[13:06] (ZiggyStarchild): Alex don't forget the other room.
[13:06] (ZiggyStarchild): Safe Haven
[13:07] (AlexanderTT): please, do not take offense if you were not one of the badger'rs
[13:07] (KPAX): come on alex running away solves nothing
[13:07] (vlady): maybe a quick post in that room Alex? about your machine?
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[13:07] (JCER): !seen AlexanderTT
[13:07] (MadIce): AlexanderTT!~[email protected] is currently on #AlexanderTTonline
[13:07] (Edge25): is this known as 'bailing out'?
[13:07] (JCER): o hes here
[13:07] (Jovial_Ki): CUT it out guys.
[13:07] *** GearBrains sets mode: +v JCER
[13:07] (JCER): lol
[13:07] (KPAX): chickening out more like it
[13:07] (AlexanderTT): see it how you want to Edge25, but I have to go
[13:07] (Edge25): not for much longer JCER
[13:07] (AlexanderTT): good bye everyone
[13:07] (JCER): damn
[13:07] (JCER): later
[13:07] (Payton123456): bye alex!
[13:07] (Jovial_Ki): If you don't believe him FINE. why bother hanging out in here then?
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[13:07] (Edge25): remember to pop into your local film storer
[13:07] (KPAX): don't let the door hit you on the butt on the way out
[13:08] (SnowFireWatches): sadly i am still convinced tht a room with KPAX in it is not worth talking in> sigh
[13:08] (Edge25): phew, that was interesting
[13:08] (vlady): That was bollocks
[13:08] (ZiggyStarchild): Well I changed my mind too Snow
[13:08] (Payton123456): kpax...please explain yourself...now that he's not here
[13:08] (KPAX): interesting in that as soon as anyone demands proof he runs away
[13:08] (Edge25): i agree KPAX
[13:08] (KPAX): ok will do
[13:08] (Edge25): when the going gets tough...
[13:08] (KPAX): this will take a while
[13:09] (Jovial_Ki): from what I can tell he put up with your harrasment for at least a few minutes. probably more before I joined.
[13:09] (ZiggyStarchild): I think he barely got a word in edgewise
[13:09] * GearBrains wonders who wants to vote again? lol!
[13:09] (SnowFireWatches): lots more JOV
[13:09] (KPAX): i was a believer because of something he said to me in PM
[13:09] (KPAX): ....
[13:09] (Edge25): likewise
[13:09] (ZiggyStarchild): Yeah and you won't tell cos you promised not too. Respect you for that.
[13:10] (KPAX): as tiem wore on i started seeing inconsistancies in his story every time eh deviated from the titor story....
[13:10] (SnowFireWatches): the whole thing was a self centered BS a$$kicking to the satisfaction of none but the perps
[13:10] (KPAX): i gave him hte benefit of the doubt....]
[13:10] (KPAX): still it persisted...
[13:10] (KPAX): when he was asked about the use of passive weapons...and sound waves...he lied about it....
[13:10] (Payton123456): I've seen inconsistancies too KPAX...I can name a few...but why the badgering?
[13:11] (KPAX): that rang alarm bells...lemme finish
[13:11] (KPAX): ...
[13:11] (JCER): kpax go on?
[13:11] (KPAX): then whenhe was banned he startes his own chat room...then....
[13:12] (KPAX): hitman askes a scientist friend into interrogate him using scientifc questioning Alex failed....
[13:12] (SnowFireWatches): no he didnt
[13:12] (vlady): no wait... i take exception.
[13:13] (Edge25): let him finish, then we can discuss after
[13:13] (vlady): READ PHEONIX's analysis of that conversation. Alex held up and managed to convince oppmur who is a respected doctor
[13:14] (vlady): See how it feels now Edge?
[13:14] (SnowFireWatches): I read the logs and the only ones who looked foolish were the ones who insisted a soldier answer scientific questions
[13:14] (vlady): Childish is a word that comes to mind
[13:14] (SnowFireWatches): yes
[13:14] (vlady): Even for a scientist.. i've dealt with 'experts' with that kind of attitude
[13:15] (Edge25): vlady - when you type things on the net there's no such thing as an interruption. the words are still typed for all to see, he cannot be drowned out like in a conversation
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[13:15] (SnowFireWatches): he can bored out like the rest of us were
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[13:16] (Edge25): bored out? what was boring about that chat. i found it quite entertaining
[13:16] (vlady): Edge> true, but he still has to read countless msgs... heck i know i'd feel sh**ty just trying to keep up
[13:16] (SnowFireWatches): the badgering is unproductive and uninteresting and unrewarding
[13:16] (vlady): lol!
[13:16] (Payton123456): everyone should just take it for what it is...a story... you can learn from any story...
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[13:16] (SnowFireWatches): like i said - a self-centered BS fest for the perps
[13:16] (vlady): Welcome back.....
[13:16] (Edge25): KPAX - you gonna finish your story?
[13:16] (SnowFireWatches): you were the only ones who enjoyed that and it says much more about you than it does about alex
[13:17] (KPAX): thanks
[13:17] (vlady): Well Alex, we want the discussion so if u could finish your response, it would be fantastic!
[13:17] (Edge25): you should have seen some of the abuse Titor got, yet he kept going and his story lives to this day
[13:18] (KPAX): today i question him on one issue ...his mission to save St.Germaine or whoever the hell it is supposed to be when pushed for proof he can't or won't provide it citing.....
[13:18] (KPAX): it would be too dangerous for me....
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[13:18] (catman1): hi again
[13:18] *** GearBrains sets mode: +v catman1
[13:19] *** GearBrains sets mode: +v KPAX
[13:19] (SnowFireWatches): hi there catman1!
[13:19] (catman1): anything new??
[13:19] (Edge25): lol
[13:19] (SnowFireWatches): nope
[13:19] (vlady): Alex just got another bollocking
[13:19] (SnowFireWatches): lol
[13:19] (KPAX): or it would endanger the person i am suppose dto save
[13:19] (catman1): in what way
[13:19] (SnowFireWatches): so what part of that doesnt make sense to KPAX??
[13:19] (GearBrains): talk about timing catman!
[13:19] (vlady): ... KPAX, to conclude?
[13:19] (Edge25): hey, how come when i swore i got banned, yet vlady has got away with it a few times now
[13:19] (KPAX): when asked to provide blood for analisis he refuses
[13:20] (catman1): did I walk into a war??
[13:20] (vlady): lololol... looks like they dont know what a bulls nads are called in the uk! lolol
[13:20] (SnowFireWatches): lol
[13:20] (vlady): that doesnt mean he cant... it means he wont. so that 's STILL not proof he's a faker
[13:20] (Edge25): er...yes we use that word in the uk, but is it not a swear word??
[13:20] (Payton123456): KPAX...since you want Alex to be more open...perhaps you could be more open about what he said to you in the PM..
[13:21] (KPAX): and so the list goes on ...folks he has not and will ot provide one singel shred of evidenc
[13:21] (KPAX): ee
[13:21] (KPAX): -1 e
[13:21] (vlady): imagine Marco Polo in front of the Italian govt in his time!
[13:21] (Edge25): he was unable to provide a reason why he couldn't scan those photos
[13:21] (KPAX): indeed
[13:21] (vlady): Edge... i dont think it is! and i'm an Aussie! LMAO
[13:22] (vlady): cos he doesnt have a scanner! he said that already
[13:22] (Edge25): ok, so we can use the word 'bollocks' freely?
[13:22] (vlady): lol,,, u just did!
[13:22] (Edge25): bollock vlday!!
[13:22] (Edge25): *s
[13:22] (vlady): LMAO very heartily
[13:22] (Edge25): he could visit his local film store as Ziggy suggested
[13:22] (Edge25): very convenient how his friend who has a scan i 'out of town'
[13:23] (vlady): aaah... here's what i wanted to sya to Alex but didnt get a chance
[13:23] (JCER): yd he leave!
[13:23] (KPAX): aome will remember from the boards that people did not believe i was a PI ...so i backed up my claim by sending Gavin the proof that i was...i expect the same of Alex ...if ican do it why can't he
[13:23] (vlady): see.. you folks type the way you all speak...which doesnt provide for your vocal inflections... it is possible that a simple request can come out THREATENING!!!??!
[13:24] (Edge25): how can...'Alex, you could go to your local film store and scan those photo's' sound THREATENING!!!111
[13:24] (vlady): well... not everyone shares your prerogative KPAX
[13:24] (KPAX): people were demanding proof i provided it
[13:25] (Edge25): exactlu
[13:25] (Edge25): *y
[13:25] (Payton123456): the fact that everyone is demanding proof is messed up to me...it shows that people are afraid of his story
[13:25] (vlady): Cos maybe they had no film stores in the country where he came from...? ie war devestation in the cities
[13:25] (Edge25): and what proof has Alex provided??? All together now...
[13:25] (Edge25): NONE
[13:26] (KPAX): that is ZIP,NADA, ZILCH, ZERO
[13:26] (vlady): Okay,,, i think it comes to one thing then.. if you dont believe him...do you have a choice? Ignore him or debunk him?
[13:26] (Edge25): I want to be around when he is debunked
[13:26] (KPAX): http://invisionfree.com/forums/Time_Travel...p?showtopic=438
[13:26] (KPAX): go there
[13:27] (vlady): been there
[13:27] (Edge25): KPAX provided the proof he is who he says he is
[13:27] (Edge25): Alex has not
[13:27] (Edge25): does that make KPAX a better person than Alex?
[13:27] (Payton123456): why do you all want proof? if you get your proof...will it change the way you live?
[13:27] (vlady): No
[13:28] (vlady): And vice versa
[13:28] (Edge25): Payton - if I get 'proof' it will give us something interesting to talk about instead of the whole St Germain, C404 blah blah blah zzzzzzzzzzz....
[13:29] (SnowFireWatches): there are plenty of places to go talk
[13:29] (Payton123456): why are you here edge if everything is zzz.?
[13:29] (KPAX): what i find so highly amusing is that I an admonished and my credibility is questioned even though i have proven who i am but Alex who ha not is blindly believed
[13:29] (vlady): well the audience is polarised Payton... there are those left brainers that want the scientific hard tangible visible proof and there are right brainers that could extrapolate on the ISSUES presented by either side
[13:29] (SnowFireWatches): he is not blindly believed
[13:29] (Payton123456): he's not
[13:29] (Edge25): ha!
[13:30] (KPAX): whos lying now
[13:30] (KPAX): ?
[13:30] (Edge25): why is everyone so clingy to him?
[13:30] (Edge25): don't go Alex!
[13:30] (Payton123456): it's a good story...that I can learn from...that's why I'm here
[13:30] (SnowFireWatches): trying to keep him in the room
[13:30] (SnowFireWatches): i still have things i wnat to ask him
[13:30] (KPAX): we don't need him
[13:30] (SnowFireWatches): but you guys make it impossible
[13:30] (SnowFireWatches): we dont need you
[13:30] (Edge25): you could PM him Snow
[13:30] (SnowFireWatches): so could you
[13:31] (KPAX): there is nothing he can do to save us ...so he says
[13:31] (Payton123456): nobody said we did KPAX...we don't need Terminator either
[13:31] (SnowFireWatches): you love your public display iof testosterone
[13:31] (Payton123456): or Lord of the Rings
[13:31] (vlady): let us make that decision ourselves KPAX
[13:31] (Edge25): but if we did that, we'd be accused of being 'threatening'
[13:31] (KPAX): or RockyXXXXXXV
[13:31] (vlady): if youd dont believe him, then why are you here? do what MADICE is doing and post on the FORUM, not the chat? is this not fair to all?
[13:31] (Payton123456): that's right KPAX...it's just a story...take it for what it is
[13:31] (Jovial_Ki): you guys don't think your tone of chat in here isn't just a bit on the hostile side?
[13:32] (JCER): yea
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[13:32] (JCER): lol
[13:32] (Jovial_Ki): weee.
[13:32] (KPAX): it was an interrogation the same kind he is gonna get from the US Secret service
[13:32] (Edge25): i am here because I want the TRUTH
[13:32] (SnowFireWatches): you are threatening for usre KPAX
[13:32] (KPAX): me too
[13:32] (JCER): so do i
[13:32] (Jovial_Ki): we ARENT the Secret service.
[13:32] (JCER): but makin acusations isnt a way to find the truth
[13:32] (Jovial_Ki): god,we're just a channel on IRC.
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[13:32] (Payton123456): not even close...there's a difference between an online interrogation and a real one
[13:32] (KPAX): i ahve sent the 2 ISP addresses to the feds
[13:32] (vlady): so u mean he's gonna get caught now by even darker forces? LOL - cheesy
[13:33] (Edge25): good for you KPAX
[13:33] (KPAX): that alex uses
[13:33] (Jovial_Ki): stop trying to act like it's a matter of life or death if we ask the good questions or stay on topic or debunk a fake!
[13:33] (Aage): hello
[13:33] (Payton123456): why would you do that KPAX?
[13:33] *** GearBrains sets mode: +v Aage
[13:33] (Payton123456): your scared aren't you
[13:33] (Edge25): because this whole thing is getting out of hand
[13:33] (ZiggyStarchild): Yeah what's he done that illegal?
[13:33] (KPAX): because i believe him to have a political agenda that is subversive to the US Govt
[13:34] (vlady): so you dob people in then - is this condoned?
[13:34] (Payton123456): soo...our president does the same thing
[13:34] (KPAX): yes...i dislike them as much as anyone but you don't mess with the Govt
[13:34] (Edge25): if you feel your country is threatened you surely must provide the information
[13:34] (Payton123456): how is he threatening the country?
[13:34] (SnowFireWatches): LOL - KPAX dont mess with is not the same as AID them
[13:34] (Jovial_Ki): I want to see the looks on the fbi's faces when they see this info.
[13:34] (Edge25): Payton - <KPAX> because i believe him to have a political agenda that is subversive to the US Govt
[13:34] (KPAX): he or the oganiszation he could be representing poses a threat to the national security of th united states in my view
[13:35] (Jovial_Ki): it'll be priceless.
[13:35] (SnowFireWatches): this is getting funny in a not very funny way
[13:35] (Payton123456): by starting a revolution? BS if a revolution is able to be started, than there is something wrong already
[13:35] (JCER): i see kpaxs point
[13:35] (JCER): if nething Alexander seems to be trying to set up a feud in america
[13:35] (Edge25): you think the FBI will laugh at this? just look how much they laughed at the Titor story
[13:35] (JCER): what did they do?
[13:35] (JCER): the FBI
[13:35] (JCER): ?
[13:35] (KPAX): if he is not a threat to us national security he will be released to the nearest lunatic asylum
[13:35] (JCER): to titor
[13:35] (Jovial_Ki): i wasn't aware the fbi knew about john titor
[13:36] (Payton123456): so let's take every liar in the world and question them...ok KPAX? will that make you feel safe?
[13:36] (Edge25): damn right the FBI know Titor's story, so do NSA and other govt. agencies
[13:36] (KPAX): imake no apologies for reporting him...i believe it worthy of investigation
[13:36] (SnowFireWatches): even i have had thoughts that this is some kind of recruitment ploy but your interogation techniques are really not appreciated KPAX and not to mention totally unproductive
[13:37] (KPAX): Echelon knows the titor story
[13:37] (SnowFireWatches): so why come in here and brag about it?
[13:37] (KPAX): and Alexs
[13:37] (Payton123456): but should the US question every liar KPAX?
[13:37] (SnowFireWatches): why not just do and wait?
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[13:37] (JCER): if the govt kno about this
[13:37] (JCER): then shouldnt a few be in here
[13:37] (Edge25): we'll leave the interrogation to the authorities now then Snow
[13:37] (SnowFireWatches): you have issues man - ego issues
[13:37] (Payton123456): agreed snow
[13:37] (KPAX): not every liar just the ones who are encouraging civil insurection
[13:38] (Payton123456): it's his right as an american to do that
[13:38] (KPAX): no it is you who has the issues
[13:38] (vlady): hmmm,,, very disheartening
[13:38] (KPAX): i am not american
[13:38] (Edge25): yes Payton - if i went on the streets saying that civil war will start in USA and 3bn will be dead in 11 years time I'd be locked up quicker than you can say...Alex is a fraud
[13:38] (KPAX): never said io was
[13:39] (JCER): kpa
[13:39] (JCER): kpax
[13:39] (JCER): did he tell you he was a fraud?
[13:39] (KPAX): face it you have been conned
[13:39] (KPAX): no i was able to deduct that
[13:39] (Jovial_Ki): conned?
[13:39] (Payton123456): conned??? by a story teller? HAHAHA LOL
[13:39] (Jovial_Ki): Who in here actually believes alex?
[13:39] (DWOMT): I don't
[13:39] (Edge25): not me
[13:39] (SnowFireWatches): you seem to be convinced that becasue we feel we have no proof one way or the the other that we are conned
[13:39] (KPAX): no
[13:39] (JCER): i use 2
[13:39] (DWOMT): i think he's a fraud too
[13:39] (SnowFireWatches): it is a misconception
[13:39] (vlady): no... i still need proof. not the refusal to see proof. this has gone nowhere
[13:39] (JCER): but im seeing kpaxs point
[13:40] (Payton123456): I dont believe him...but it don't matter to me
[13:40] (KPAX): he makes claims he does not back them up
[13:40] (JCER): i think well all kno come 2005
[13:40] (Edge25): if you don't believe Alex, why the eagerness to ask him questions and ensure he stays in the room?
[13:40] (SnowFireWatches): so do you KPAX
[13:40] (KPAX): when challanged to do so he rusn away
[13:40] (DWOMT): a civil war is not possible in the US..at least not in the short time frame Alex said..his story is all bull
[13:40] (SnowFireWatches): prove to me you laerted the US govt
[13:40] (SnowFireWatches): alerted
[13:40] (SnowFireWatches): do it NOW
[13:41] (SnowFireWatches): or you are a liar
[13:41] (KPAX): you wnat ot see the emals
[13:41] (KPAX): emails
[13:41] (ZiggyStarchild): Why would you alert MY govt. You're not American.
[13:41] (KPAX): ok hang on
[13:41] (JCER): kpax
[13:41] (JCER): i wanna see them
[13:41] (Jovial_Ki): america butts in on everyone elses business.
[13:41] (SnowFireWatches): absolutely and your license as a PI and your name address and american ssn
[13:41] (SnowFireWatches): NOW
[13:41] (KPAX): hey he is talking about all out war globally
[13:41] (KPAX): wait i will get them
[13:41] (Edge25): just because he's not American does he not have the right to inform the govt. that they may be under threat?
[13:41] (vlady): cos it COULD happen?
[13:41] (JCER): for all we kno its a terrorist
[13:41] (Payton123456): that's right jovial...we shouldn't do that
[13:42] (KPAX): i said i will get them ...give me a chance to do so
[13:42] (SnowFireWatches): NOW
[13:42] (Edge25): haha Snow, I see what you're doing. The difference is - KPAX will provide the evidence instead of just running away
[13:42] (KPAX): have to conmvert to txt files
[13:42] (SnowFireWatches): LOL edge
[13:42] (SnowFireWatches): too easy to fake
[13:42] (vlady): SnowFire has 10 degrees in Interrogation
[13:43] (vlady): lol
[13:43] (SnowFireWatches): scans of the real thing
[13:43] (DWOMT): gotta go to work..be back tonight..laterz
[13:43] (SnowFireWatches): NOW
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[13:43] (JCER): lol
[13:43] (Edge25): at least he's gonna provide SOMETHING for us to discuss instead of running away
[13:43] (JCER): i just wnat to see what he said
[13:43] (Jovial_Ki): I don't blame alex one bit for leaving.
[13:44] (SnowFireWatches): ( ijust got my education from KPAX!)
[13:44] (Edge25): you're so...blinkered Jovial_Ki
[13:44] (Jovial_Ki): blinkered?
[13:44] (SnowFireWatches): hurry up - I want a picture of youtoo - standing by the citylimits sign in the twon you are at
[13:44] (Jovial_Ki): explain.
[13:44] (SnowFireWatches): NOW
[13:45] (catman1): I think this room is the Civil War that was talked about!!
[13:45] (Edge25): you obviously believe Alex quit because he was being harrassed when it's clear he quit because he had no evidence
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[13:45] (JCER): edge
[13:45] (SnowFireWatches): he quit becasuehe was outof time
[13:45] (JCER): makes a good point
[13:45] (Edge25): sure
[13:45] (Jovial_Ki): He already SAID he wasn't going to talk about the evidence.
[13:45] (SnowFireWatches): he said at the beginning he had a short time
[13:45] (Edge25): he quit because he couldn't handle the pressure
[13:46] (KPAX): here it comes
[13:46] (Jovial_Ki): He wanted to talk about something else. If you would have let him talk about it...and then come back to the evidence you might have gotten somewhere.
[13:46] (SnowFireWatches): and that was your goal want it ?
[13:46] (Jovial_Ki): But no. "GIMME GIMME GIMME"
[13:46] (SnowFireWatches): congratualtions
[13:46] (vlady): i have to agree
[13:46] (vlady): just to eager
[13:46] (Edge25): but Jovial - there was NOTHING to talk about
[13:46] (Edge25): nothing REAL anyway
[13:46] (Jovial_Ki): So?
[13:46] (SnowFireWatches): i already have trace results send me what i asked for KPAX
[13:47] (Edge25): so, what would be the point? we'd just be fed more lies
[13:47] (KPAX): that is right is sent them in the email
[13:47] (Jovial_Ki): Isn't it up to us to decide if we want to be fed those lies?
[13:47] (Jovial_Ki): Last I checked..My mom was at work..not in this chat.
[13:47] (SnowFireWatches): if that is what youthink why do come here edge? you come to disrupt
[13:47] (Edge25): absolutely, that's why there are ignore and PM options
[13:47] (Edge25): i come to seek the TRUTH
[13:47] (JCER): ME@222
[13:47] (KPAX): you don'tr get it do you....anyone associatedwith him could becaome suspect
[13:48] (SnowFireWatches): me too
[13:48] (SnowFireWatches): lol
[13:48] (SnowFireWatches): send me what i asked for KPAX
[13:48] (Jovial_Ki): kpax,we're not safe in this country anymore anyways.
[13:48] (SnowFireWatches): NOW PLEASE
[13:48] (MadIce): http://invisionfree.com/forums/Time_Travel...t=15&#entry7857
[13:48] (JCER): Alex should be taken 2 court
[13:48] (KPAX): waht is the matter you demand the proof then you don't want it when it being given to you SnowFireWatches?
[13:48] (SnowFireWatches): i already have the trace results
[13:49] (SnowFireWatches): send me something new
[13:49] (Jovial_Ki): to court?
[13:49] (Jovial_Ki): oh geez.
[13:49] (vlady): LOL
[13:49] (Edge25): good post MadIce
[13:49] (MadIce): http://invisionfree.com/forums/Time_Travel...t=60&#entry7850
[13:49] (KPAX): the letter predcedes the trace results but you would'nt see that unless you opened the dcc
[13:49] (SnowFireWatches): i didnt iopen as it has the same name
[13:50] (SnowFireWatches): i didnt overwrite
[13:50] (JCER): kpax may i see this?
[13:50] (SnowFireWatches): send me something new
[13:51] (SnowFireWatches): waiting KPAX
[13:51] (KPAX): there
[13:51] (JCER): alex doesnt have to prove nething, hes not here to prove what happens in the future
[13:52] (SnowFireWatches): where is your license, your dob, your ssn your picture?
[13:52] (SnowFireWatches): that istoo easy to fake
[13:52] (SnowFireWatches): resend to the govt and cc me
[13:52] (SnowFireWatches): [email protected]
[13:52] (MadIce): It's even easier to provide no evidence at all.
[13:52] (ZiggyStarchild): bye ya'll. gotta go. bbl
[13:52] (Jovial_Ki): jcer..you were just saying he should be sent to court.
[13:53] (Payton123456): Every person in this room that thinks alex is harmfull to American national security is scared to die...I'm so dissapointed in humanity today
[13:53] (Jovial_Ki): bye ziggy
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[13:53] (vlady): Hey...not me Payton
[13:53] (SnowFireWatches): KPAX
[13:53] (Jovial_Ki): payton..im scared to die..im not scared of alex.
[13:53] (SnowFireWatches): send me some real proof
[13:53] (SnowFireWatches): NOW
[13:53] (SnowFireWatches): or go home
[13:53] (SnowFireWatches): lol
[13:53] (vlady): dont generalise... This is precisely what divides this group at present
[13:53] (Payton123456): everyone dies jovial
[13:53] (SnowFireWatches): put up or shut up as you said to alex
[13:53] (KPAX): you have it when i get the reply i will send it to you
[13:53] (catman1): this is starting to look like a high school chatroom
[13:54] (SnowFireWatches): lol
[13:54] (SnowFireWatches): sorry guys
[13:54] (KPAX): this prolly is
[13:54] (JCER): jovial
[13:54] (SnowFireWatches): i am just proving that KPAX cannot or will not
[13:54] (JCER): im playing the devils advocate
[13:54] (SnowFireWatches): anymore than alex will
[13:54] (SnowFireWatches): and i have
[13:54] (vlady): YES!! Snowfire
[13:54] (SnowFireWatches): thanks you very much
[13:54] (vlady): ED ZACHARY
[13:54] (KPAX): when i get a return email from th governmen t i will give it to you
[13:54] (KPAX): for fu*ks sake
[13:54] (SnowFireWatches): waht about everything else i asked for
[13:54] (vlady): That's still not proof KPAX
[13:55] (Edge25): er...hang on a minute, KPAX has provided SOMETHING hasn't he? what's Alex provided?
[13:55] (vlady): lol
[13:55] (Jovial_Ki): i know payton. doesn't mean im not scared of it. im scared of escalators too
[13:55] (vlady): phrases from a manual?
[13:55] (vlady): lol
[13:55] (KPAX): nada,zipo,nothin',zero
[13:55] (vlady): that dont mean SH**t either
[13:55] (SnowFireWatches): same as you kpax
[13:55] (SnowFireWatches): now hurry up and get me all that evidence
[13:55] (SnowFireWatches): i will not quit asking till i have it
[13:55] (SnowFireWatches): i want it now
[13:55] (vlady): lol
[13:56] (JCER): snow your not proving anythign
[13:56] (Jovial_Ki): you have to be more hostile. push him up aga
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[13:56] (JCER): snow your not proving anythign
[13:56] (Jovial_Ki): you have to be more hostile. push him up against a wall. choke him get out the whip.
[13:56] (JCER): kpax provided u with sometihng, alex has?
[13:56] (KPAX): you like will be laughing on th other side of you face if it hits the 6 o'clock news
[13:56] (vlady): snow does a good impersonation of that physicist that interrogated alex some nightsago
[13:56] (MadIce): SnowFireWatches: In the meantime keep asking Alex the same thing
[13:56] (Payton123456): haha jovial...it's all good...you should realize how little control you have of dying...even of escalators
[13:57] (Edge25): i hope nobody's scared of visits by the MIB?
[13:57] (Jovial_Ki): seriously. escalators should be banned from existance..the moving stairs..the moving handrail..your shoelace getting caught and then falling down:/
[13:57] (catman1): Whats worth the 6 o clocknews on this room???
[13:57] (Jovial_Ki): edge,I'll bake them a nice cake and we can sit and have tea.
[13:57] (KPAX): lol catmen
[13:59] (SnowFireWatches): kpax i still need that copy of your PI license, your DOB a copy of your ss card, a photo of you by your hometown sity limits sing
[13:59] (SnowFireWatches): i need it right NOW
[13:59] (SnowFireWatches): hometown city limits sign
[14:00] (Edge25): http://www.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/bbs/ultim...=9;t=001081;p=6
[14:00] (KPAX): such information was provided to Gavin get it fom him
[14:00] (SnowFireWatches): i want it from YOU
[14:00] (SnowFireWatches): I dont even know gavin
[14:00] (KPAX): too bad i am not going to give it to you
[14:00] (SnowFireWatches): i dont trust him either
[14:00] (catman1): I have a picture of the Arch to prove Im in St.Louis
[14:00] (SnowFireWatches): so YOU ARE A FRAUD AND A LIAR
[14:00] (KPAX): that is your problem then is'nt it
[14:00] (Edge25): JOHN TITOR DEBUNKED >>>http://www.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/bbs/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=001081;p=6
[14:01] (SnowFireWatches): KPAX YOUR ARE A FRAUD AND A LIAR
[14:01] (Edge25): ALEX DEBUNKED>>>http://www.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/bbs/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=001081;p=6
[14:01] (SnowFireWatches): (JUST TO PROVE MY POINT)
[14:01] (SnowFireWatches): now i am done
[14:01] (KPAX): i sent the information to Gavin on the fourms i have met my burden of proof
[14:01] (SnowFireWatches): you are not credible
[14:01] (SnowFireWatches): no you havent
[14:01] (SnowFireWatches): you are just sidestepping
[14:02] (SnowFireWatches): trying to divert
[14:02] (KPAX): you are an 1D!0T
[14:02] (SnowFireWatches): lol
[14:02] (SnowFireWatches): maybe but I am just copying you
[14:02] (Payton123456): your all poopoo heads
[14:02] (SnowFireWatches): everyone knows this is not me
[14:02] (Jovial_Ki): watch it.
[14:02] (Jovial_Ki): no insulting.
[14:02] (SnowFireWatches): this isme impersonating an idiot named KPAX
[14:02] (Payton123456): hehee sorry
[14:02] (SnowFireWatches): opss
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[14:02] (KPAX): got nothing original to offer eh SnowFireWatches
[14:03] (SnowFireWatches): ill take my punishment
[14:03] (SnowFireWatches): i gotta go read madice anyway
[14:03] (Edge25): http://www.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/bbs/ultim...=9;t=001081;p=6
[14:03] (Edge25): http://www.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/bbs/ultim...=9;t=001081;p=6
[14:03] (Edge25): http://www.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/bbs/ultim...=9;t=001081;p=6
[14:03] (SnowFireWatches): lol - you stole the whole idea youhave from me anyway KPAX LOL
[14:03] (Edge25): the story has finished boys and girls
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[14:03] (SnowFireWatches): get a grip man
[14:03] (Edge25): it's over!!!
[14:04] (SnowFireWatches): you seem to think i am stupid
[14:04] (Edge25): TITOR HAS BEEN DEBUNKED
[14:04] (KPAX): you are SnowFireWatches
[14:04] (SnowFireWatches): going edge
[14:06] (Edge25): show's over folks
[14:07] (Edge25): remember I said that Titor would be debunked within a week?
[14:07] (Payton123456): Edge...the show has been over...it's wether you've learned anything from the show or not...right?
[14:08] (Edge25): what's to learn? it's a fictional story with a malicious undertone
[14:09] (Payton123456): I could name at least 10 things I've learned from this fictional story
[14:09] (Edge25): and that undertone is the reason why the FBI have shown such an interest
[14:09] (KPAX): well now they willhave another one to look at
[14:09] (JCER): well its over then
[14:09] (KPAX): hehehe
[14:09] (Payton123456): learning isn't a crime man...thinking a different way isn't wrong
[14:10] (Payton123456): as long as you don't ACT on it
[14:10] (Edge25): the sad thing is...some people don't want it to be over
[14:10] (KPAX): no but when you try to get others to overthrow the government it is
[14:11] (Payton123456): anyone who would overthrow the govt. based on his story...is a national threat...not the one tellng the story
[14:11] (Edge25): that's debateable
[14:11] * Jovial_Ki sighs
[14:11] (Payton123456): BS!!! it's called freedom of speech!! he's american..he was exercising that right
[14:12] (Edge25): with freedom of speech comes responsibility...
[14:12] (Edge25): why the sign Jovial?
[14:12] (Edge25): *sigh
[14:12] (Jovial_Ki): my headache has returned.
[14:12] (Edge25): why? upset that Titor has been debunked?
[14:13] (KPAX): read the patriot acts freedom of speach is gone
[14:13] (Payton123456): no responsibility in freedom of speech...edge...that's why theres so much garbage on TV
[14:13] (Jovial_Ki): no. because of attitudes in here.
[14:13] (KPAX): the fantasy has ended that's why Edge25
[14:13] (Edge25): yep exactly
[14:13] (KPAX): i was thinking you were bright
[14:13] (Edge25): nothing to cling on to now...back to the boring real world
[14:13] (KPAX): lol
[14:14] (SnowFireWatches): ee.com/forums/Time_Travel_Hotel/index.php?showtopic=417&st=60&#e
[14:14] (SnowFireWatches): ughnot what i meant to do
[14:14] (Jovial_Ki): I've said repeatedly I'll never believe in a tt'er til I actually see him Time travel..so why would I care if they've been debunked?
[14:14] (SnowFireWatches): i dont get it anyway
[14:14] (catman1): SO...If everybody is all dubunked now...what do we do?? Lets go debunk Roswell or maybe Buffy the vampire slayer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[14:14] (SnowFireWatches): rick said he isnt sure?
[14:15] (Edge25): rick is sure
[14:15] (JCER): well its all over now
[14:15] (SnowFireWatches): correct me if I am wrong
[14:15] (JCER): ill be still on though
[14:15] (SnowFireWatches): everything is connected the book, the audio show, the JTfoundation
[14:15] (Edge25): yes
[14:16] (SnowFireWatches): what does it prove?
[14:16] (Edge25): JT Fan = John Titor
[14:16] (JCER): it was all a hoax to get $$$
[14:16] (SnowFireWatches): rick said not sure about that
[14:16] (catman1): We can all watch CNN everyday and watch Bush win and watchj 2-3 americans die every couple days....cause GWB says "DADDY I GOT SADDAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[14:16] (Edge25): he is only telling us half of the story though Snow
[14:16] (SnowFireWatches): doesnt it only prove that money is wanting to be made?
[14:16] (SnowFireWatches): i swear
[14:17] (JCER): JK
[14:17] (Edge25): the other half will come out and leave us in no doubt that Titor is fake
[14:17] (SnowFireWatches): you guys are incredible
[14:17] (JCER): yes exactly
[14:17] (Edge25): you're grasping at straws now Snow
[14:17] (KPAX): Alex is a fraud because Titor is a fraud
[14:17] (SnowFireWatches): lol
[14:17] (JCER): yes
[14:17] (SnowFireWatches): i just WANT REAL PROOF
[14:17] (JCER): i got to take a nap
[14:17] (JCER): kpax
[14:17] (JCER): do somethin for me
[14:17] (KPAX): if i can i will
[14:17] (Edge25): it's amazing how Titor is debunked yet some still don't want to believe
[14:17] (JCER): call alex a pathetic excuse for a human being from JCER
[14:17] (SnowFireWatches): you are to eager
[14:17] (JCER): il be on later
[14:18] (JCER): late
[14:18] (JCER): s
[14:18] (SnowFireWatches): jiwill be the first to say you were right when the time comes
[14:18] (Edge25): the same way you're too eager to believe Alex?
[14:18] (SnowFireWatches): but it will never change my opinion of your tactics
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[14:18] (Edge25): tactics?
[14:18] (Jovial_Ki): ok. wait wait wait.
[14:18] (KPAX): you know i hate to say i told you so...but ITOLD YOU SO
[14:18] (SnowFireWatches): lol
[14:18] (Jovial_Ki): we're not suppose to believe a TT'er from the beginning but a debunker should be believed wihout any doubt?
[14:18] (Jovial_Ki): isn't that hypocritical?
[14:19] (SnowFireWatches): thats what they seem to be saying
[14:19] (Edge25): the difference is that the debunker is providing proof
[14:19] (Edge25): and will provide 100% proof within days
[14:19] (Edge25): also, I trust Rick Donaldson
[14:19] (SnowFireWatches): also that becasue we are unconvinced by what convinces them we are fools and to eager to believe
[14:19] (SnowFireWatches): it is fruitless to even talk to people like this
[14:19] (KPAX): it is called the administrator of anomalies doing an investigation because he suspected something was up and wanted to prove it
[14:20] (catman1): MIGHT AS WELL CHANGE THE NAME OF THIS ROOM!!! iM NOT ABOUT TO SAY WHAT IS OUGHT TO SAY!!!!
[14:20] *** [#AlexanderTTonline] Punishing catman1 (~[email protected]) Caps abuse - 98% - Offense 1 (kick)
[14:20] *** catman1 was kicked by Jorune (Caps abuse - 98%)
[14:20] (SnowFireWatches): ugh - that script needs to go lol
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[14:20] (SnowFireWatches): well i will wait for the proof
[14:21] (SnowFireWatches): while youguys go around purporting it to already be proof
[14:21] (Edge25): you won't have to wait long
[14:21] (SnowFireWatches): who has got the slanted perception around here
[14:21] (Edge25): you have
[14:21] (SnowFireWatches): you make me laugh
[14:21] (Edge25): you refuse to believe the story has been debunked even when the evidence is all there
[14:22] (Edge25): it's quite sad the way you NEED this story
[14:22] (KPAX): pamela helped prove it...that was a surprise
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[14:22] (SnowFireWatches): it is not all there - and i never believe this story anyway
[14:22] (SnowFireWatches): but the proof is not there
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[14:22] (Edge25): ok Snow, I beieve you
[14:22] (vlady): does the connection to this thing drop out frequently?
[14:23] (Edge25): isn't it a bit...odd that Alex quit here just as the proof was surfacing on anomalies?
[14:23] (SnowFireWatches): not for me vlady
[14:23] (KPAX): oh yes...how convienent
[14:23] (vlady): hmmm (grumbles as he thinks he's missed a good conversaton)
[14:23] (SnowFireWatches): lol
[14:24] (Edge25): vlady is a 'he'?!
[14:24] (SnowFireWatches): i amgoing to go reread that page -
[14:24] (vlady): quick recap for me someone?
[14:24] (SnowFireWatches): lol edge that took me aback too
[14:24] (SnowFireWatches): have you been to the anomolies page?
[14:24] * KPAX is taking bets that Alexander er JTFan er Buzz will not be back
[14:24] (vlady): Edge> yes! its Vlad-EE not VEE-Lady (i seem to be getting this alot on IRC) hmmm
[14:24] (vlady):
[14:25] (Edge25): KPAX - i would be surprised if Alex show's his face again
[14:25] (KPAX): Holy Time Displacement Units, Batman!!
[14:25] (vlady): Edge: i've read those posts at anomalies.. thanks for the link
[14:26] (SnowFireWatches): so what did you think vlady?
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[14:27] (vlady): i still stand by my thinking/reasoning... which doesnt require Alex or any TTer to be True or False. That is, if we were sent back to a past that we obviously know.. how would WE interact with the peopls of the time. What would be our message?
[14:28] (vlady): I saw a chat between Alex and some canadian lass which had nothing to do with TT or physics, but plain.. humanity... it was quite a good pieace i should have saved the log to
[14:28] (Jovial_Ki): my message would be. Don't come to IRC.
[14:28] (vlady): lol
[14:28] (vlady): high 5
[14:28] (SnowFireWatches): ok but that isnot what I asked - how does the posting there stand up as proof in youropinion?
[14:28] *** GearBrains is now known as GearBrainsAway
[14:28] (SnowFireWatches): so far
[14:29] * KPAX is away -[ Breakfast ]- at 06:35a -[ P:On / L:On ]-
[14:29] (vlady): i guess i'm like Payton, not necessarily believing Alex but finding validity in his story (minus the D**th and Destruction)
[14:30] (Jovial_Ki): i dont believe him but Im stressing the importance of acting mature on the channel.
[14:30] (Payton123456): thanks v...I almost felt "cultik" for a second
[14:31] (SnowFireWatches): well - nothing alex has siad is out of the realm of possiblity nor has been since before JT came on the scene - for that reason alone - even if things start happening it doesnt mean they are TT
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[14:32] (SnowFireWatches): but - what i want to know is do you find that thread satifying as "proof"
[14:33] (Edge25): because I trust Rick Donaldson
[14:33] (vlady): no... it prooved to me that a) a TT refuses to provide it. B) the Debunker(s) showed motives to have the TT investigated... which is really what wer're all trying to do... just using different methods
[14:33] (vlady): Dont trust anybody
[14:33] (vlady): i've learned that the hard way
[14:34] (Edge25): Rick says JT Fan = John Titor
[14:34] (SnowFireWatches): let me go get a quote
[14:34] (vlady): I don't know Donaldson, but if he's provided an email then we have to have that investigated and verified by someone else... that's what proof is about - independent verification
[14:34] * KPAX is back -[ Breakfast ]- gone 5 min 26 s
[14:34] (vlady): lol
[14:35] (vlady): u from Oz KPAX?
[14:35] (Edge25): this is ridiculous. Titor and Alex are fakes. Get over it.
[14:35] (SnowFireWatches): lol
[14:35] (SnowFireWatches): ok good bye then
[14:35] (SnowFireWatches): you are done with it right?
[14:35] (SnowFireWatches): so why you still here?
[14:35] (vlady): lol
[14:35] (KPAX): we want to point and laugh
[14:35] (Jovial_Ki): he wants to see alex debunked.
[14:36] (SnowFireWatches): just as i suspected lol
[14:36] (Edge25): yes, i want to talk to alex again
[14:36] (Edge25): i was here from day 1 and i intend to stay until the very last day
[14:36] (KPAX): never happen
[14:36] (SnowFireWatches): question
[14:37] (SnowFireWatches): how come I cant get some lines to copy in the anamolies so i can paste them?
[14:37] (SnowFireWatches): i just get thelink when i do that?
[14:37] (Edge25): no idea Snow
[14:37] (SnowFireWatches): I'm reasonably certain, they are the same person. THAT I can't prove at this point and personally do not intend to persue that avenue. However, I know of some folks using some forensics techniques that may hit some pay dirt . I'm stepping back out of this whole thing in a few weeks. I have a couple of "loose ends" to tie up then I am done with the whole hoax.
[14:37] (KPAX): it does'nt let believers copy and paste....ROFL
[14:37] (SnowFireWatches): there that is quote
[14:38] (Jovial_Ki): She's NOT a believer.
[14:38] (Jovial_Ki): are you totally not reading anything she says?
[14:38] (vlady): digesting is probably the better word
[14:39] (SnowFireWatches): they are just button pushers -
[14:39] (Jovial_Ki): heh probably
[14:39] (SnowFireWatches): havent found the correct ones yet
[14:39] (Edge25): he's gonna prove it soon - that's what the quote says basically
[14:39] (MadIce): It looks grim for our Alex. It seems he digged his grave. Even Phoenix doesn't seem to like him anymore.
[14:39] (SnowFireWatches): lol you cant read either
[14:39] (KPAX): ok hang on.... SnowFireWatches rags my a** for being to hard on alex telling me he is real now suddenly she is converted?
[14:39] (Edge25): it's 80% proven - still that 20% to go
[14:39] (MadIce): That link Alex has provided sure didn't do him any good
[14:39] (SnowFireWatches): youtotally dont get it KPAX
[14:39] (KPAX): lol
[14:39] (Edge25): what link MadIce?
[14:40] * Jovial_Ki headdesk headdesk headdesk
[14:40] (vlady): yes, i do agree MadIce..
[14:40] (SnowFireWatches): it was not that i believe alex
[14:40] (KPAX): do tell SnowFireWatches
[14:40] (SnowFireWatches): what i believe is you treat him poorly
[14:40] (vlady): i think it skewed my perception of him as soon as i saw that link
[14:40] (KPAX): no io treated him like th fraud he is
[14:40] (MadIce): http://www.hermes-press.com/police_state.htm
[14:40] (MadIce): This one
[14:40] (MadIce): That was his "proof"
[14:41] (SnowFireWatches): who's?
[14:41] (MadIce): Alex posted that link on the forum
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[14:41] (MadIce): To me that proves he is a warmongering extremist.
[14:41] (KPAX): me too
[14:41] (MadIce): Click on it
[14:42] (vlady): i dont know about extremist.
[14:42] (KPAX): and that if the truth be know is the group he was recruiting for
[14:42] (MadIce): Click on it
[14:42] (vlady): where's the source on that from KPAX?
[14:42] (KPAX): Neo Nazis
[14:42] (MadIce): That was in response to vlady
[14:42] (SnowFireWatches): well i said that my first day in here - what are his motives
[14:42] (KPAX): checking
[14:42] (MadIce): That are his motives
[14:42] (SnowFireWatches): and pointed that as possible
[14:42] (SnowFireWatches): it is in the logs so gimme a break
[14:43] (MadIce): SnowFireWatches: Of course
[14:43] (MadIce): It is a very scary link.
[14:43] (SnowFireWatches): ugh
[14:43] (SnowFireWatches): yes and that quote
[14:43] (SnowFireWatches): how many times has alex quoted that
[14:43] (KPAX): where ever it is it has some serious security
[14:44] (vlady): wait.. ok.. the site is extreme... but..
[14:44] (vlady): i dont believe it is neo-nazi...
[14:44] (vlady): it has a nazi symbol
[14:44] (MadIce): He is reality for you
[14:44] (MadIce): Here is reality for you
[14:44] (vlady): but i believe the context is based on saying that the us is ALREADY in such ap osition
[14:45] (MadIce): I call that blabla, vlady.
[14:45] (vlady): what did he quote?
[14:46] (SnowFireWatches): alex gave that link? lol - what a poor choice - he could have jsut link to jeff rense or RMN
[14:46] (KPAX): Node Net Reg IP Address Location Node Name
[14:46] (KPAX): 20 1 1 69.93.99.226 Dallas 226.69-93-99.reverse.theplanet.com
[14:46] (SnowFireWatches): I'm reasonably certain, they are the same person. THAT I can't prove at this point and personally do not intend to persue that avenue. However, I know of some folks using some forensics techniques that may hit some pay dirt . I'm stepping back out of this whole thing in a few weeks. I have a couple of "loose ends" to tie up then I am done with the whole hoax.
[14:46] *** GearBrainsAway is now known as GearBrains
[14:46] (SnowFireWatches): ugh again sorry
[14:46] (SnowFireWatches): not what i meant
[14:47] (MadIce): I can take picture of a football match fight and put any text under it I like that has nothing to do with the fight. If I publish it in a newspaper does it make it real?
[14:47] (SnowFireWatches): "None are more hopelessly enslaved than
[14:47] (SnowFireWatches): those who falsely believe they are free."
[14:47] (SnowFireWatches): Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
[14:47] (SnowFireWatches): that one
[14:47] (KPAX): registered in dallas but server is actually outsiode Kansas City IL
[14:47] (KPAX): outside
[14:47] (SnowFireWatches): kansas city is nowhere near illinois
[14:48] (SnowFireWatches): well close but doesnt share a border
[14:48] (vlady): yes... K i remember him quoting that
[14:48] (MadIce): So, anyone want to hear some more of Alex's predictions now?
[14:48] (SnowFireWatches): i think i have them down
[14:48] (vlady): I realise what you mean MadIce, context is everyting
[14:48] *** MadIce sets mode: +vv vlady ZiggyStarchild
[14:49] (KPAX): double checking location
[14:49] (SnowFireWatches): st louis maybe?
[14:50] (SnowFireWatches): that straddles missouri and illinois
[14:50] (MadIce): Boy. Am I glad this is over. It was too ugly. A nuclear holocaust. I used the phrase "warmongering extremist" several times. I am glad we have proof of that now.
[14:50] (Edge25): yep
[14:50] (KPAX): the server to the site is jhust outside KansasCity MO
[14:52] (SnowFireWatches): not exctly extremeist country
[14:52] (SnowFireWatches): but what does it mean?
[14:52] (SnowFireWatches): i am in canada
[14:53] (KPAX): what does what mean?
[14:53] (vlady): Ok. what is the protocol in case Alex does come back on IRC?
[14:53] (SnowFireWatches): my hubby has a site the server is in california
[14:53] (MadIce): Do not ban him
[14:53] (KPAX): demand proof
[14:53] (vlady): lol
[14:53] (vlady): of course
[14:53] (MadIce): Let him talk and dig his own grave.
[14:53] (KPAX): then demand it again cos he won't provided it
[14:53] (vlady): see, i like MadICe's style... very gracious
[14:53] (SnowFireWatches): KPAX i hope will lay off the interogation technique
[14:54] (SnowFireWatches): it is not fruitful
[14:54] (KPAX): when all else fails ...demand proof
[14:54] (SnowFireWatches): <<<< shaking my head in disbelief
[14:54] (KPAX): no i was quite fruitful
[14:54] (MadIce): Yes. Do not pressure him, KPAX. We now know more. We will soon find out more.
[14:54] (SnowFireWatches): frightful not fruitful
[14:54] (vlady): not for me
[14:55] (KPAX): he has a week spot
[14:55] (vlady): i understand your motive, i dont agree with your method.
[14:55] (KPAX): an i know what it is
[14:55] (SnowFireWatches): your ego is the only thing that benefited from your little demo so please spare us next time PLEASE
[14:56] (MadIce): If he is in a room you can lock then interrogation may work. I don't like such techniques. But it sure does not work on IRC. He can just move.
[14:56] (KPAX): you thinks this is about me...do you think i like to prove people liars on a daily if not weekly basis?
[14:56] (MadIce): I don't think it is about you.
[14:56] (SnowFireWatches): right now this is about you and your technique
[14:56] (SnowFireWatches): it isnt working
[14:57] (SnowFireWatches): you are not proving anything
[14:57] (vlady): i like entrapment by well placed questions WITHOUT harassment which i have seen MadIce perform... the problem witht hat is interpretation on both sides since it is just text on screen,, cant hear the voice see the eyes
[14:57] (MadIce): I am just giving my opinion. You have yours. We both want to find out the truth. We already know he is a hoax.
[14:57] (SnowFireWatches): you make it impossible for civil people to ask questions that may lead in the same direction
[14:58] (KPAX): you only seem to be worried about alex for you own selfish means SnowFireWatches ... I have proven Alex to be a liar ad a fraud so that people could move on and not worry about a civil war that will probably not happen or indeed how long we have left
[14:58] (MadIce): IRC is too slippery.
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[14:58] (catman1): Ladies and gentlemen, thanks to Rick, this is Endgame for the "John Titor Foundation."
[14:58] *** MadIce sets mode: +v catman1
[14:58] (SnowFireWatches): please move on then KPAX
[14:58] (vlady): ... so it is best to lead the cnversation for lonmg periods of time so we can elicit lots of responses which we can go over with a fine tooth comb... MUCH diferent to firing point blank range
[14:59] (SnowFireWatches): I will leave when I am done
[14:59] (SnowFireWatches): this has turned into a religion for you
[14:59] (KPAX): you think i am done with that little sH8t Alex...you are kidding right?
[14:59] (MadIce): No
[15:00] (MadIce): I am not either.
[15:00] (vlady): you definitely hav emade this personal KPAX
[15:00] (SnowFireWatches): i have better things to do than this KPAX - clearly you will not go with the flow around here
[15:00] (SnowFireWatches): it is my hope that we can talk to alex either with being civil
[15:00] (KPAX): yes because i was lied to by someone i thoughti could trust
[15:00] (SnowFireWatches): or in a rom where you are not present
[15:00] (MadIce): Please name him or her, KPAX.
[15:00] (SnowFireWatches): i state my opinion clearly so you know where I stand regarding your "technique"
[15:01] (SnowFireWatches): not your GOAL
[15:01] (vlady): Then name him/her then
[15:01] (SnowFireWatches): which is the same as everyone elses
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[15:01] (KPAX): I though i could trust alexander
[15:01] (H1t|M4n): I need to say this
[15:01] (KPAX): an he lied
[15:02] (SnowFireWatches): so this is about your feelings
[15:02] *** GearBrains sets mode: +v H1t|M4n
[15:02] (MadIce): Hm. I though it was one of us.
[15:02] (SnowFireWatches): please hitman
[15:02] (SnowFireWatches): speak
[15:02] (KPAX): his betrayal and lies and fraud will not go unpunished
[15:02] (SnowFireWatches): bring sanity to the room if you can
[15:02] (SnowFireWatches): i told you - you are the one letting it become a religion
[15:02] * GearBrains laughs
[15:02] (vlady): punishment! that's what it's about... revenge?!!
[15:02] (SnowFireWatches): step back
[15:02] (SnowFireWatches): breath
[15:03] (vlady): lol
[15:03] (vlady): wow... this has turned into something heavy going...
[15:03] (KPAX): but since you bring it up i find it difficult to trust anyone on the forums adn mIRC save one person who will remain nameless
[15:03] (GearBrains): hitman you were saying...
[15:04] (H1t|M4n): someone posted under Opmmur's name on anomalies,and posted some things that are very untrue,I'm going to ask Pamela or if anyone can ask Pamela to look up the ips so that we can all clear this up,because i know as a fact that, Opmmur would never post something like that .
[15:04] (KPAX): liars pay full price
[15:04] (KPAX): what is the link H1t|M4n?
[15:04] (Edge25): Hitman - could you link me to this please?
[15:04] (Edge25): beat me to it KPAX
[15:04] (vlady): yes please
[15:04] (MadIce): You have a link, Tony?
[15:05] (H1t|M4n): In other words there is someone running around with Opmmur's nick,in short someone hacked his nick from that site and then posted under his name .
[15:05] (MadIce): Geez
[15:05] (SnowFireWatches): ok - i think we all consider opmmur gentle folk so just let us see what he DIDNT post
[15:05] (SnowFireWatches):
[15:06] (KPAX): H1t|M4n just eamil [email protected]
[15:06] (H1t|M4n): k
[15:06] (H1t|M4n): i will KPAX
[15:06] (vlady): ok... my only anomaly with the whole Alex thing is Opmmur got convinced based on the conversation with that 'stupid' expert physicist.. That 's what i want cleared up
[15:06] (vlady): if opmmur were only here...
[15:07] (KPAX): because if the person who did this is coems into TTI he/she will be blacklisted
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[15:07] (SnowFireWatches): thatt surprised me as well
[15:07] (SnowFireWatches): vlady
[15:07] (Edge25): link Hitman?
[15:07] (vlady): and i do think that physicist let himself down with his 'technique'
[15:07] (SnowFireWatches): yes
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[15:07] (SnowFireWatches): bully's never really win
[15:07] (Rauite): did alex get on at all last night?
[15:08] *** MadIce sets mode: +vv Rauite ZiggyStarchild
[15:08] (KPAX): yes
[15:08] (Rauite): oh hey kpax
[15:08] *** vlady (~[email protected]) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
[15:08] (SnowFireWatches): rautie there is lts to catch up on short story is alex was here today and nothing new was said
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[15:08] (Rauite): that sucks
[15:08] (Rauite): nothing new ever happens now
[15:09] (vlady): what is up with this connection!??!
[15:09] (vlady): grrr
[15:09] (KPAX): and when asked for proof he did'nt give any as usual
[15:09] (vlady): what i miss?
[15:09] (Rauite): nothing at all
[15:09] *** GearBrains sets mode: +v vlady
[15:09] (SnowFireWatches): and when KPAX was put to the same scrutiny he also failed to rpoduce
[15:09] (Rauite): hahah
[15:09] (vlady): LOL
[15:09] (KPAX): bull
[15:09] (SnowFireWatches): so we are still at the starting gate
[15:10] (Rauite): you never hear about the chicago bulls much anymore
[15:10] (Rauite): i guess they suck now or something
[15:10] (MadIce): Rauite: But remember Alex posted this link on the forum -> http://www.hermes-press.com/police_state.htm
[15:10] (KPAX): you really are a Bitch S
[15:10] (Edge25): do you mean this thread Hitman >>>http://www.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/bbs/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=000929
[15:10] (MadIce): Alex considered that neo-nazi link proof
[15:10] (SnowFireWatches): lol - you are pushing your luck KPAX
[15:11] (SnowFireWatches): I am honest
[15:11] (SnowFireWatches): and I am fair
[15:11] (SnowFireWatches): I would love to say the same for you
[15:11] (KPAX): no i told you i provided proof to the administrator of the forum
[15:11] (SnowFireWatches): that isnt what i asked for
[15:11] (KPAX): i provide the link whe he acknowledges the proof
[15:11] (SnowFireWatches): so to me you hold no more water than alex
[15:12] (KPAX): crap
[15:12] (SnowFireWatches): i want to know everything about you
[15:12] (Edge25): i'm going now
[15:12] (SnowFireWatches): i dont want someone else word on it
[15:12] (vlady): LMAO
[15:12] (H1t|M4n): Edge25 there are others that were posted also,thats not the one btw
[15:12] (Edge25): see you all tommorrow
[15:12] (KPAX): well i told you i would not give it to you
[15:12] (Rauite): hahah you had no proof that alex was fake kpax
[15:12] (SnowFireWatches): bye edge
[15:12] (Edge25): ok Hitman
[15:12] (Edge25): bye all
[15:12] (GearBrains): bye edge
[15:12] *** Edge25 ([email protected]) has left #AlexanderTTonline
[15:12] (vlady): bye
[15:12] (SnowFireWatches): yes so i called you a liar and a fraud like you did to alex
[15:13] (SnowFireWatches): i stand by my assessment until i see your proof
[15:13] (Rauite): during war, would one side really say were being shot at! lets try to make them sick with sound waves!
[15:13] (KPAX): and you have done it without checking evidence
[15:13] (SnowFireWatches): bye vlady
[15:13] (SnowFireWatches): we are boring everyone kpax
[15:13] (vlady): no.. i was saying by to Edge!
[15:13] (KPAX): which makes you a fuc8ing fool SnowFireWatches
[15:13] (vlady):
[15:13] (SnowFireWatches): bye kpax
[15:13] (Rauite): bye kpax
[15:13] (ZiggyStarchild): adios
[15:13] (Rauite): hes more immature than i am
[15:13] (Rauite): and im 14
[15:14] *** SnowFireWatches sets mode: +b *!*@dialup-202-45-107-166.Brisbane.netspace.net.au
[15:14] *** [#AlexanderTTonline] Banned- KPAX
[15:14] *** KPAX was kicked by MadIce (Banned (*!*@dialup-202-45-107-166.Brisbane.netspace.net.au))
[15:14] (Jovial_Ki): i was just about to do that!
[15:14] (Jovial_Ki): haha
[15:14] (SnowFireWatches): someone else will just let him back in and thats ok
[15:14] (SnowFireWatches): for now
[15:14] (SnowFireWatches): lol
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