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Posted by: Padraic Aug 26 2004, 06:31 AM
I owe you all an apology and an explanation. What happened was not the result of two beer swilling pranksters having a bit of a laugh at your expense. It was mostly the result of a man with a wife working second shift who got bored waiting for her to get home in the evening. I had been reading these forums for a while, seeing how lame some of the hoaxes were, and finally my ego got the best of me and I said, "I can do better than these people." I told my brother one evening when he came over what I was doing and he wisely advised me against it. He said that I should either come clean right away or just stop posting. I had too much of an ego to follow his advice. He is younger than me and I have never been used to him giving advice. In some ways he is wiser than me. I told him that I could do it, that I could do better than those others and he told me that I would be gone before September. By then he had gone on the forum and read a bit and he told me that there were some smart people who would see the holes in the story. That is when he made the bet with me that I would be sunk before the end of the month.
There were some elements of truth in the story. I did have an ancestor who served on that ship. He was killed in 1813 when she was beaten by HMS Shannon and left behind a wife and son in Norfolk. I am descended from him, but I am not him. We don't know much about his life other than the fact that he was in the Navy, so I took the liberty of filling in the gaps as best as I could figure. I think Grayson had me figured out pretty early because my nautical knowledge is not as exhaustive as a sailor of that era would have possessed. I tip my hat to him.
So it comes down to this. It was a fun ride for a while, but it was a ride I should not have had at your expense and for that I apologize. To the admins of the board, I offer my sincere apologies, to Ralan and the others who believed me I am sorry for getting your hopes up and then for dashing them back down again. To Satan, I am sorry for using your board in such a way for my own petty enjoyment. Now that gives whole new meaning to "giving the Devil his due." I am old enough to have known better. The persona I had created was something of a composite of two people who actually existed, a 19th century sailor I am descended from, and a 21st century financial services rep who has too much of an interest in the past. I am the latter, and sometimes dream of being the former.
I need to be going now. My wife will be waking up soon and it is my morning to cook breakfast. I hope you all will accept my apologies and find it in your hearts to forgive my immature attempt at deception.
Sincerely,
Padraic
Posted by: sosuemetoo Aug 26 2004, 07:09 AM
Padriac,
I will not speak for anyone else on this board but myself. I accept your apology. You have explained yourself adequately.
Please understand that it will be a while before I trust what you say. Trust will be gained in time and in your sincerity of your future posts.
"Mom"
Posted by: Satan Aug 26 2004, 07:52 AM
Charles/Padraic,
I have issued a warning to your account. Additionally you have been placed on Moderator Queue for 7 days.
Posted by: Satan Aug 26 2004, 08:15 AM
Also, Padraic, I would like to refer you to the following rule applied to time traveler hoaxes:
QUOTE
11. After admitting a hoax stop hoaxing afterwards. Further hoaxing on top of a hoax can result in a ban.
Given your polite demeanor I have chosen not to exercise a ban. If you choose to remain amongst us you are welcome. However, you should drop one of the two accounts you are currently using and only post on the remaining account. Please notify me or one of the other admins which account you will be using such that the other can be deleted.
Posted by: Ralan Aug 26 2004, 08:41 AM
Apology gladly accepted. Will you be staying with us then Padraic?
Posted by: CaryP Aug 26 2004, 08:49 AM
Padraic,
Much better effort. Apology accepted. Now don't you feel better?
Cary
Posted by: Padraic Aug 26 2004, 09:53 AM
I do feel that I will stick around. The other account is indeed my brother's name, but I doubt that he will wish to post on here anyway, given that he is a most adamant tt skeptic and did not like the idea of me being on here from the start. Plus, he didn't like the idea of me setting that one up in his name, on his computer, and using his email address. That was pretty low. You can delete that account, since I will not be posting under someone else's name. I've done enough of that!
Padraic
Posted by: Ralan Aug 26 2004, 10:27 AM
Ok. Can the Don't Rub It In and Trouble at My House threads be deleted? Won't be doing to have clutter in the Are You One section like the old forum did.
Posted by: Satan Aug 26 2004, 10:33 AM
QUOTE(Ralan @ Aug 26 2004, 11:27 AM)
Ok. Can the Don't Rub It In and Trouble at My House threads be deleted? Won't be doing to have clutter in the Are You One section like the old forum did.
They have been removed.
Posted by: Grayson Aug 26 2004, 01:17 PM
Padraic: I would say well done, but I am afraid that I can't. You hoaxed, you were caught and after a struggle, you confessed. I would have been happier if we hadn't've had to go through the little bit of blarney that was spun to try and give some last ditch credence to a crumbling tale. Had you immediately confessed, I would have still held you in the high regard that I had come to from our first meeting.
I would offer some points for you and any future hoaxers that would journey to this site, bent on showing how smart they can be.
Firstly I would say this, don't, because it is inevitable that the sustained effort of lying will eventually burden you in a number of ways. Your inherent morality may convince you to confess in the face of lying under such stressful and sustained circumstances. You may suffer the I want to tell them that I fooled them stress, under which circumstance we get the gloating apology. Or, you will engage with the people at this site on a personal level and attempt to humanise your new persona and become a real Community Member, which will inevitably lead to a blurring of the character lines and ultimately to your undoing.
Secondly, I would suggest that any future, or extant, hoaxer research their tale thoroughly. Whether it be future Sci-fi, near future war, or as in your case, an historic unintentional Traveller.
Your lack of any real understanding of the Chesapeake was apparent from the first, which is probably the time that you should have chosen to bail out and come clean. You didn't and chose instead to visit the site where a person who had given you your greatest technical challenge to your tale posted. I made a detailed post in the Moderator Forum regarding the technical flaws in your tale some days ago, I warned you that we shared information and still you persisted. So, we were all on our guard, feeding you line and you kept taking it and wrapping it around your neck, even when the jig was up.
Cary never trusted you, his instincts served him well. Many were uncertain as you posted a prosaic tale which seemed historically accurate and offered a sympathetic backdrop for our lost Padraic. People could and did emote with this lost soul and you persisted in perpetrating this charade in the face of sympathetic, compassionate and engaging posts from our Family Members here. After warning you not to do this, you persisted.
But, we are not unfeeling here and you are good company. You have a charm to you and an ability to engage people in a most human way. This makes you what you are, not the tale of Padraic and this is what this Community is all about. We care and we share.
So, let your tale be a warning to others. No matter who you are, or how well you spin your tale, when the jig is up, confess and end the lie.
We are not here to be hoaxed, we are not here to be trifled with. We are here to offer an opportunity for people to explore the possibility of and debate the rationality of Time Travel. We won't say, Don't hoax us because we are smart, but we will share information, hunches and evidence in the background each and every time an alleged TT'er shows up. As a Community, as a Family, we will find you out and we will reveal your lies.
Stay Padraic, enage us with the man behind the tale, but in doing so you become duty bound to look after this Family, as we look after each and every other Member.
Posted by: Hackimer, Rob Aug 26 2004, 01:32 PM
Grayson, once again, you make me mist up.
Padraic, bring your intellect, and wit and politeness as a bonus to us. I for one welcome you.
And when the next one comes to hoax, I expect you to pounce with the swiftness and deftness of an experienced hoaxer yourself.
Oh, and for the record PLBTBTBTBTBTBTBBBBT!
Posted by: hdrkid Aug 26 2004, 01:58 PM
No hard feeling, but I am sad that you are not really from the early 1800's as I am interested in that era.
I have travelled astrally to the 1800's and the people spoke funny. You always talked like a man from the 20th century.
People back then talk like "fetch me a wee bit o' whiskey me lassie."
You could have read some poetry from the era to get a feel for it.
Still, you did get me to think about what life was like back then. Life in the 1800's was cruel harsh and short for the poor; with little or no education.
For the rich however, live was full of happiness, little or no crime, no income taxes and no osha.
I wish that you could actually travel to back then and see it. It was quite remarkable. I will always remember in one of my astral travels the ladies wearing fancy dresses, and the horse drawn carriages. I think that something of that happy time has been lost.
People nowadays think of "the village" or maybe the Amish when you mention the 1800's but it was an exciting time with many advances in science and a hopeful positive outlook on the future.
Posted by: Padraic Aug 26 2004, 02:37 PM
Yes, Jester, it does take one to know one, and perhaps that is one reason I was so quick to spot the flaws in the stories over on the other board. I realized that I had made a couple blunders myself, as all who attempt this eventually do, but I hope that in the midst of all that, there was something to be learned from it. Perhaps, as it did with HDRkid, it made people at least think about that period and maybe even read up on it a little. I became a little more familiar with it myself just in the little reading I did to come up with the tale, and I gained a new insight into my ancestor who was the basis for the story. He actually lived in that time, actually served on the Chesapeake, and was killed fighting aboard her. I have always known about him, but before he was faceless person from my past, someone whose blood flows in my veins but I knew little of. I feel like I know him a little better now, and in that knowing I can see that I could never begin to fill his shoes. It was an interesting journey, but in hindsight not one I would ever choose to embark upon again.
Respectfully,
Padraic
(By the way, that actually is my real name. Dad is hopelessly attached to our Irish background and wanted that spelling.)
Posted by: CaryP Aug 26 2004, 03:28 PM
QUOTE(Padraic @ Aug 26 2004, 03:37 PM)
Yes, Jester, it does take one to know one, and perhaps that is one reason I was so quick to spot the flaws in the stories over on the other board. I realized that I had made a couple blunders myself, as all who attempt this eventually do, but I hope that in the midst of all that, there was something to be learned from it. Perhaps, as it did with HDRkid, it made people at least think about that period and maybe even read up on it a little. I became a little more familiar with it myself just in the little reading I did to come up with the tale, and I gained a new insight into my ancestor who was the basis for the story. He actually lived in that time, actually served on the Chesapeake, and was killed fighting aboard her. I have always known about him, but before he was faceless person from my past, someone whose blood flows in my veins but I knew little of. I feel like I know him a little better now, and in that knowing I can see that I could never begin to fill his shoes. It was an interesting journey, but in hindsight not one I would ever choose to embark upon again.
Respectfully,
Padraic
(By the way, that actually is my real name. Dad is hopelessly attached to our Irish background and wanted that spelling.)
Padraic,
Don't try to get too cute just yet. You're not out of the woods. HDRKid was saddened by your deception. He's a young man, who's got a great interest in time travel. You're hoax was a huge disappointment to him. Frog is also a young man who will be disappointed by your hoax. There are a number of women here who feel you still have not come clean with your "story" including your allegded brother. Women know all about payback, and you ain't paid much, yet. Are you so obtuse as to miss this?
Your apology has been accepted by some, but you're still high on the "Unforgiven" list as of now. Yeah, all the crap you posted had some historical background, but it was all based on a lie. I wouldn't be trying to justify my hoax if I were you. You might bring some heat that you definitely don't want to take right now. Humility would serve you well there, buckshot. Tread like you're on very thin ice, because you are. Get my drift? You'd better. "Back alley beatings" have not gone out of style here, and you're the top candidate as of now. Tread very, very, very lightly. That ice you're on is thinner than you think.
Cary
P.S. You've been outed, and warned several times. You initially tried to lie your way out of your initial string of lies. Are you pathological? This is the last warning you'll get from me. Don't invite me back to your story again. Play time is over.
Posted by: Grayson Aug 26 2004, 04:16 PM
I think that we have had enough here now.
Padraic: You have two choices now, continue the spin, or accept the fact that the tale of Padraic the sailor is over and done with.
In the first instance you will be censured.
In the second instance, you will have to earn your place in this Community if you intend to stay.
Maybe I have been too circumspect in getting to the detail of my points and should choose a more simplistic language. So, here goes.
This tale is over.
Don't seek to continue it.
There will be no back alley beating, however you will be ejected from this site and we will continue to guard against your return.
If you stay, you accept the responsibility implied in continuing to be a Member of this site.
If you attempt to resurrect the ghost of this tale for your own self-preening or mocking glorification, we will be vexed and action will be taken.
Move on to something else.
I don't like finding the wafting odour of a mouldy kipper here, especially with you smugly harkening back to your sudden validity in this saga by dint of your ancestral claim to the Chesapeake.
I have asked you before and will only ask one more time, do not insult my intelligence. Knock it off, before I am forced to do a mind-job on you.
On-line Psycho-analysis is a very grizzly thing to watch as I am told that shredded cerebellum hitting the screen can be very unsettling for the viewers.
Are we of an understanding?
Oh yeah, I've just taken the liberty of editing Padraic's post. I removed the My brother was right bit as it made my Corpus Collosum itch.
Posted by: DadOf5 Aug 26 2004, 09:58 PM
QUOTE(Grayson @ Aug 26 2004, 06:16 PM)
I removed the My brother was right bit as it made my Corpus Collosum itch.
Uh, just my own bit of ignorance here, but what the heck is a Corpus Collosum?
Edit:
Nevermind. Ain't Google a wonderful thing?
For the curious:
Posted by: Anoah Aug 27 2004, 02:02 AM
I knew it. It's still a bummer though.
Posted by: hdrkid Aug 29 2004, 09:08 AM
Some closing thoughts.
The average shoe size in the early 1800's was size 6 for men,
and people over 6' tall were rare, so if a regular Joe were to
go back to 1800, finding clothes might be a problem.
Also the language was different back then, so you would be a foreigner in your own land - interesting concept.
Most hoaxers forget how much language and customs change in a few short years. A real TT would also feel lonely and a bit homesick - at first that is.
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Posted by: Padraic Aug 26 2004, 06:31 AM
I owe you all an apology and an explanation. What happened was not the result of two beer swilling pranksters having a bit of a laugh at your expense. It was mostly the result of a man with a wife working second shift who got bored waiting for her to get home in the evening. I had been reading these forums for a while, seeing how lame some of the hoaxes were, and finally my ego got the best of me and I said, "I can do better than these people." I told my brother one evening when he came over what I was doing and he wisely advised me against it. He said that I should either come clean right away or just stop posting. I had too much of an ego to follow his advice. He is younger than me and I have never been used to him giving advice. In some ways he is wiser than me. I told him that I could do it, that I could do better than those others and he told me that I would be gone before September. By then he had gone on the forum and read a bit and he told me that there were some smart people who would see the holes in the story. That is when he made the bet with me that I would be sunk before the end of the month.
There were some elements of truth in the story. I did have an ancestor who served on that ship. He was killed in 1813 when she was beaten by HMS Shannon and left behind a wife and son in Norfolk. I am descended from him, but I am not him. We don't know much about his life other than the fact that he was in the Navy, so I took the liberty of filling in the gaps as best as I could figure. I think Grayson had me figured out pretty early because my nautical knowledge is not as exhaustive as a sailor of that era would have possessed. I tip my hat to him.
So it comes down to this. It was a fun ride for a while, but it was a ride I should not have had at your expense and for that I apologize. To the admins of the board, I offer my sincere apologies, to Ralan and the others who believed me I am sorry for getting your hopes up and then for dashing them back down again. To Satan, I am sorry for using your board in such a way for my own petty enjoyment. Now that gives whole new meaning to "giving the Devil his due." I am old enough to have known better. The persona I had created was something of a composite of two people who actually existed, a 19th century sailor I am descended from, and a 21st century financial services rep who has too much of an interest in the past. I am the latter, and sometimes dream of being the former.
I need to be going now. My wife will be waking up soon and it is my morning to cook breakfast. I hope you all will accept my apologies and find it in your hearts to forgive my immature attempt at deception.
Sincerely,
Padraic
Posted by: sosuemetoo Aug 26 2004, 07:09 AM
Padriac,
I will not speak for anyone else on this board but myself. I accept your apology. You have explained yourself adequately.
Please understand that it will be a while before I trust what you say. Trust will be gained in time and in your sincerity of your future posts.
"Mom"
Posted by: Satan Aug 26 2004, 07:52 AM
Charles/Padraic,
I have issued a warning to your account. Additionally you have been placed on Moderator Queue for 7 days.
Posted by: Satan Aug 26 2004, 08:15 AM
Also, Padraic, I would like to refer you to the following rule applied to time traveler hoaxes:
QUOTE
11. After admitting a hoax stop hoaxing afterwards. Further hoaxing on top of a hoax can result in a ban.
Given your polite demeanor I have chosen not to exercise a ban. If you choose to remain amongst us you are welcome. However, you should drop one of the two accounts you are currently using and only post on the remaining account. Please notify me or one of the other admins which account you will be using such that the other can be deleted.
Posted by: Ralan Aug 26 2004, 08:41 AM
Apology gladly accepted. Will you be staying with us then Padraic?
Posted by: CaryP Aug 26 2004, 08:49 AM
Padraic,
Much better effort. Apology accepted. Now don't you feel better?
Cary
Posted by: Padraic Aug 26 2004, 09:53 AM
I do feel that I will stick around. The other account is indeed my brother's name, but I doubt that he will wish to post on here anyway, given that he is a most adamant tt skeptic and did not like the idea of me being on here from the start. Plus, he didn't like the idea of me setting that one up in his name, on his computer, and using his email address. That was pretty low. You can delete that account, since I will not be posting under someone else's name. I've done enough of that!
Padraic
Posted by: Ralan Aug 26 2004, 10:27 AM
Ok. Can the Don't Rub It In and Trouble at My House threads be deleted? Won't be doing to have clutter in the Are You One section like the old forum did.
Posted by: Satan Aug 26 2004, 10:33 AM
QUOTE(Ralan @ Aug 26 2004, 11:27 AM)
Ok. Can the Don't Rub It In and Trouble at My House threads be deleted? Won't be doing to have clutter in the Are You One section like the old forum did.
They have been removed.
Posted by: Grayson Aug 26 2004, 01:17 PM
Padraic: I would say well done, but I am afraid that I can't. You hoaxed, you were caught and after a struggle, you confessed. I would have been happier if we hadn't've had to go through the little bit of blarney that was spun to try and give some last ditch credence to a crumbling tale. Had you immediately confessed, I would have still held you in the high regard that I had come to from our first meeting.
I would offer some points for you and any future hoaxers that would journey to this site, bent on showing how smart they can be.
Firstly I would say this, don't, because it is inevitable that the sustained effort of lying will eventually burden you in a number of ways. Your inherent morality may convince you to confess in the face of lying under such stressful and sustained circumstances. You may suffer the I want to tell them that I fooled them stress, under which circumstance we get the gloating apology. Or, you will engage with the people at this site on a personal level and attempt to humanise your new persona and become a real Community Member, which will inevitably lead to a blurring of the character lines and ultimately to your undoing.
Secondly, I would suggest that any future, or extant, hoaxer research their tale thoroughly. Whether it be future Sci-fi, near future war, or as in your case, an historic unintentional Traveller.
Your lack of any real understanding of the Chesapeake was apparent from the first, which is probably the time that you should have chosen to bail out and come clean. You didn't and chose instead to visit the site where a person who had given you your greatest technical challenge to your tale posted. I made a detailed post in the Moderator Forum regarding the technical flaws in your tale some days ago, I warned you that we shared information and still you persisted. So, we were all on our guard, feeding you line and you kept taking it and wrapping it around your neck, even when the jig was up.
Cary never trusted you, his instincts served him well. Many were uncertain as you posted a prosaic tale which seemed historically accurate and offered a sympathetic backdrop for our lost Padraic. People could and did emote with this lost soul and you persisted in perpetrating this charade in the face of sympathetic, compassionate and engaging posts from our Family Members here. After warning you not to do this, you persisted.
But, we are not unfeeling here and you are good company. You have a charm to you and an ability to engage people in a most human way. This makes you what you are, not the tale of Padraic and this is what this Community is all about. We care and we share.
So, let your tale be a warning to others. No matter who you are, or how well you spin your tale, when the jig is up, confess and end the lie.
We are not here to be hoaxed, we are not here to be trifled with. We are here to offer an opportunity for people to explore the possibility of and debate the rationality of Time Travel. We won't say, Don't hoax us because we are smart, but we will share information, hunches and evidence in the background each and every time an alleged TT'er shows up. As a Community, as a Family, we will find you out and we will reveal your lies.
Stay Padraic, enage us with the man behind the tale, but in doing so you become duty bound to look after this Family, as we look after each and every other Member.
Posted by: Hackimer, Rob Aug 26 2004, 01:32 PM
Grayson, once again, you make me mist up.
Padraic, bring your intellect, and wit and politeness as a bonus to us. I for one welcome you.
And when the next one comes to hoax, I expect you to pounce with the swiftness and deftness of an experienced hoaxer yourself.
Oh, and for the record PLBTBTBTBTBTBTBBBBT!
Posted by: hdrkid Aug 26 2004, 01:58 PM
No hard feeling, but I am sad that you are not really from the early 1800's as I am interested in that era.
I have travelled astrally to the 1800's and the people spoke funny. You always talked like a man from the 20th century.
People back then talk like "fetch me a wee bit o' whiskey me lassie."
You could have read some poetry from the era to get a feel for it.
Still, you did get me to think about what life was like back then. Life in the 1800's was cruel harsh and short for the poor; with little or no education.
For the rich however, live was full of happiness, little or no crime, no income taxes and no osha.
I wish that you could actually travel to back then and see it. It was quite remarkable. I will always remember in one of my astral travels the ladies wearing fancy dresses, and the horse drawn carriages. I think that something of that happy time has been lost.
People nowadays think of "the village" or maybe the Amish when you mention the 1800's but it was an exciting time with many advances in science and a hopeful positive outlook on the future.
Posted by: Padraic Aug 26 2004, 02:37 PM
Yes, Jester, it does take one to know one, and perhaps that is one reason I was so quick to spot the flaws in the stories over on the other board. I realized that I had made a couple blunders myself, as all who attempt this eventually do, but I hope that in the midst of all that, there was something to be learned from it. Perhaps, as it did with HDRkid, it made people at least think about that period and maybe even read up on it a little. I became a little more familiar with it myself just in the little reading I did to come up with the tale, and I gained a new insight into my ancestor who was the basis for the story. He actually lived in that time, actually served on the Chesapeake, and was killed fighting aboard her. I have always known about him, but before he was faceless person from my past, someone whose blood flows in my veins but I knew little of. I feel like I know him a little better now, and in that knowing I can see that I could never begin to fill his shoes. It was an interesting journey, but in hindsight not one I would ever choose to embark upon again.
Respectfully,
Padraic
(By the way, that actually is my real name. Dad is hopelessly attached to our Irish background and wanted that spelling.)
Posted by: CaryP Aug 26 2004, 03:28 PM
QUOTE(Padraic @ Aug 26 2004, 03:37 PM)
Yes, Jester, it does take one to know one, and perhaps that is one reason I was so quick to spot the flaws in the stories over on the other board. I realized that I had made a couple blunders myself, as all who attempt this eventually do, but I hope that in the midst of all that, there was something to be learned from it. Perhaps, as it did with HDRkid, it made people at least think about that period and maybe even read up on it a little. I became a little more familiar with it myself just in the little reading I did to come up with the tale, and I gained a new insight into my ancestor who was the basis for the story. He actually lived in that time, actually served on the Chesapeake, and was killed fighting aboard her. I have always known about him, but before he was faceless person from my past, someone whose blood flows in my veins but I knew little of. I feel like I know him a little better now, and in that knowing I can see that I could never begin to fill his shoes. It was an interesting journey, but in hindsight not one I would ever choose to embark upon again.
Respectfully,
Padraic
(By the way, that actually is my real name. Dad is hopelessly attached to our Irish background and wanted that spelling.)
Padraic,
Don't try to get too cute just yet. You're not out of the woods. HDRKid was saddened by your deception. He's a young man, who's got a great interest in time travel. You're hoax was a huge disappointment to him. Frog is also a young man who will be disappointed by your hoax. There are a number of women here who feel you still have not come clean with your "story" including your allegded brother. Women know all about payback, and you ain't paid much, yet. Are you so obtuse as to miss this?
Your apology has been accepted by some, but you're still high on the "Unforgiven" list as of now. Yeah, all the crap you posted had some historical background, but it was all based on a lie. I wouldn't be trying to justify my hoax if I were you. You might bring some heat that you definitely don't want to take right now. Humility would serve you well there, buckshot. Tread like you're on very thin ice, because you are. Get my drift? You'd better. "Back alley beatings" have not gone out of style here, and you're the top candidate as of now. Tread very, very, very lightly. That ice you're on is thinner than you think.
Cary
P.S. You've been outed, and warned several times. You initially tried to lie your way out of your initial string of lies. Are you pathological? This is the last warning you'll get from me. Don't invite me back to your story again. Play time is over.
Posted by: Grayson Aug 26 2004, 04:16 PM
I think that we have had enough here now.
Padraic: You have two choices now, continue the spin, or accept the fact that the tale of Padraic the sailor is over and done with.
In the first instance you will be censured.
In the second instance, you will have to earn your place in this Community if you intend to stay.
Maybe I have been too circumspect in getting to the detail of my points and should choose a more simplistic language. So, here goes.
This tale is over.
Don't seek to continue it.
There will be no back alley beating, however you will be ejected from this site and we will continue to guard against your return.
If you stay, you accept the responsibility implied in continuing to be a Member of this site.
If you attempt to resurrect the ghost of this tale for your own self-preening or mocking glorification, we will be vexed and action will be taken.
Move on to something else.
I don't like finding the wafting odour of a mouldy kipper here, especially with you smugly harkening back to your sudden validity in this saga by dint of your ancestral claim to the Chesapeake.
I have asked you before and will only ask one more time, do not insult my intelligence. Knock it off, before I am forced to do a mind-job on you.
On-line Psycho-analysis is a very grizzly thing to watch as I am told that shredded cerebellum hitting the screen can be very unsettling for the viewers.
Are we of an understanding?
Oh yeah, I've just taken the liberty of editing Padraic's post. I removed the My brother was right bit as it made my Corpus Collosum itch.
Posted by: DadOf5 Aug 26 2004, 09:58 PM
QUOTE(Grayson @ Aug 26 2004, 06:16 PM)
I removed the My brother was right bit as it made my Corpus Collosum itch.
Uh, just my own bit of ignorance here, but what the heck is a Corpus Collosum?
Edit:
Nevermind. Ain't Google a wonderful thing?
For the curious:
Posted by: Anoah Aug 27 2004, 02:02 AM
I knew it. It's still a bummer though.
Posted by: hdrkid Aug 29 2004, 09:08 AM
Some closing thoughts.
The average shoe size in the early 1800's was size 6 for men,
and people over 6' tall were rare, so if a regular Joe were to
go back to 1800, finding clothes might be a problem.
Also the language was different back then, so you would be a foreigner in your own land - interesting concept.
Most hoaxers forget how much language and customs change in a few short years. A real TT would also feel lonely and a bit homesick - at first that is.
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