Debate Why do many (but not all) Conservatives hate the environment?

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ErinsOnlyColour

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I just refuse to believe any story about Trump that is created by the news media. It must be apparent by now to everyone that any political news is just more fake news.

So in all seriousness I am curious.
Do you believe Trump was a good guy compared to those dastardly Democrats who just seem to be going off the rails on a crazy train? Political theatre is just as fake as CNN ( Communist News Network) or Fox etc
I've watched alot about trump. Definitely pulling for the billionaire banksters there and had a suspiciously close past with the Clintons during the Taj days in his life. Same criminals different mask

I'd believed his rubbish if he handled the assange situation properly but eh. Truth colors shine vibrant. Not to mention lots of other type overreach that came from his puppet admin.

Like Trump is Budweiser and Democrats are Budlight both appear American but are forigne owned !!
 
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TimeFlipper

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It's a political thing for political gain.
That's why I reject it. Just like the war on drugs or terror is not a war on terror but a war on freedom. But don't ask me, i definitely believe nothing that comes out of that box or some hipster liberal college education.
Can i ask you what it is that you believe in? :unsure:..
 

PaulaJedi

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So in all seriousness I am curious.
Do you believe Trump was a good guy compared to those dastardly Democrats who just seem to be going off the rails on a crazy train? Political theatre is just as fake as CNN ( Communist News Network) or Fox etc
I've watched alot about trump. Definitely pulling for the billionaire banksters there and had a suspiciously close past with the Clintons during the Taj days in his life. Same criminals different mask

I'd believed his rubbish if he handled the assange situation properly but eh. Truth colors shine vibrant. Not to mention lots of other type overreach that came from his puppet admin.

Like Trump is Budweiser and Democrats are Budlight both appear American but are forigne owned !!

Assange -Trump tried to have Assange extradited to the U.S. so he could pardon him, but he lost the court battle.

Taxes - There are loopholes so the tax rate won't matter. I own a company and I strive for 0 or a loss so I won't have to to pay uncle Sam. I invest in capital for my company and increase my expenses. For example, it's better to buy new computers with the profit then just hand it over to the government to spend on illegal immigrants and funding the Taliban. It's legal. Am I a bad person? Also, companies do pay taxes on capital gains and such. If you increase the taxes, they could leave the country, WITH THE JOBS. Trump was doing a great job at getting them back. Very little manufacturing was being done here in the U.S. and by lowering tax rates, the jobs were coming back. LOOK AT THE AMERICAN STEEL INDUSTRY!!!!
Our economy was thriving. But CNN would not tell you that.

No offense intended, but I'm sure most of what you heard about Trump was from TV. They had an agenda against him and would never speak of his accomplishments.

Trump foreign owned? Didn't you see how he was stopping China? Now look. China literally owns America. Where else are we getting all this magic money to pay liberals to stay home?

Incidentally, the billionaires provide jobs, technology, food, clothing, blue jeans, your computer, and your phone. Want to abolish the rich? Your toys go with them.

I have several multimillionaire clients. They built their companies up from literally the garage, then sold them and now live on dividends. So, they are bad people because they invented something and became successful? Without the wealthy, I'd have no company. They are my clients. We want to be our own boss and do not want to work for other people. Besides, we make more this way.

Ok, now I have to try to tie this into the environment. Conservatives, and Trump, were concerned about wasting money. That Paris accord took our money and did nothing with it. Tell me, how has the environment changed since it was formed?

My conservative governor, Desantis, spends a lot of money on the coast, the everglades, waterways, beaches. He is attempting to protect wild life and the Florida environment. He doesn't hate the environment. You can do a search for "Ron Desantis Florida Executive Orders" if you wish. I think there is a new one related to the environment.
 

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So in all seriousness I am curious.
Do you believe Trump was a good guy compared to those dastardly Democrats who just seem to be going off the rails on a crazy train? Political theatre is just as fake as CNN ( Communist News Network) or Fox etc
I've watched alot about trump. Definitely pulling for the billionaire banksters there and had a suspiciously close past with the Clintons during the Taj days in his life. Same criminals different mask

I'd believed his rubbish if he handled the assange situation properly but eh. Truth colors shine vibrant. Not to mention lots of other type overreach that came from his puppet admin.

Like Trump is Budweiser and Democrats are Budlight both appear American but are forigne owned !!
I believe history will record Trump as being the best president in history. Capitalism is not compatible with socialism or taxes. Apparently the Democrats would rather see everyone live in poverty as slaves. I was paying 22 dollars for a tank of gas under Trump. Now I'm paying 37 dollars for a tank of gas under Biden. I'll go with Trump. And no the billionaires are not hoarding all the money. Congress destroyed the money supply with tax and spend and regulating corporations out of business.
 

PaulaJedi

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I believe history will record Trump as being the best president in history. Capitalism is not compatible with socialism or taxes. Apparently the Democrats would rather see everyone live in poverty as slaves. I was paying 22 dollars for a tank of gas under Trump. Now I'm paying 37 dollars for a tank of gas under Biden. I'll go with Trump. And no the billionaires are not hoarding all the money. Congress destroyed the money supply with tax and spend and regulating corporations out of business.

Equal in poverty. They feel anything else is racist.
 

PaulaJedi

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Desantis is Conservative.

 

Harte

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So in all seriousness I am curious.
Do you believe Trump was a good guy compared to those dastardly Democrats who just seem to be going off the rails on a crazy train? Political theatre is just as fake as CNN ( Communist News Network) or Fox etc
I've watched alot about trump. Definitely pulling for the billionaire banksters there and had a suspiciously close past with the Clintons during the Taj days in his life. Same criminals different mask
Your view is entirely skewed.
Here you lump Trump in with lifelong politicians.
Sure, professional politicians are scumbags for the most part.
But blaming a world-wide real estate developer for cozying up to ANYONE in power - of whatever political persuasion (including any foreign governments) - is just ignorant.

During Trump's term, there was actually a contraction in the gap between lower and middle class income and upper class income.
See if you can find such a thing happening during any other modern presidential term.

Harte
 

ErinsOnlyColour

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Your view is entirely skewed.
Here you lump Trump in with lifelong politicians.
Sure, professional politicians are scumbags for the most part.
But blaming a world-wide real estate developer for cozying up to ANYONE in power - of whatever political persuasion (including any foreign governments) - is just ignorant.

During Trump's term, there was actually a contraction in the gap between lower and middle class income and upper class income.
See if you can find such a thing happening during any other modern presidential term.

Harte
I just find his close friendship with the Clintons and other things that he said he would do like " Drain The Swamp " that never was accomplished highly suspicious. Mr.Take The Guns First Ask Questions Later. Facts.

Political Scripted Theatre.

This is not something I made up? I did not see the corrupted political swamp get drained as it just grew deeper or Julian Assange get a pardon and more hindrance upon individual liberties ( my favorite it the 2nd Amendment ).

i support no politician for they mean to govern and to govern means to inhibit true freedom that every human has the right to under human nature.

yeah, trump looked great as Mr.Red White and Blue against those dastardly, evil Democrats but I hate to break it but presidents are selected no elected. Ask JFK.

its also difficult for me to see Assange being extradited to the United States and not ending up hanging himself after his guards fell asleep and cameras malfunctioned with suspicious timing.

Climate change is a political tool to use as leverage over the people. I follow a retired NASA engineer who says we're actually coming out of one of the coldest eras of Earth's cycle.



 
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PaulaJedi

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You didn't read my post.

Assange needed to be extradited to the United States to be pardoned by the United states. WE LOST THE COURT CASE. Blame judges, not Trump.
 


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