A.I Threat or not

unholy_dragon

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Looking through the media and seeing that some scientists think A.I. is the same threat as nuclear war.

I think A.I. is far from that as it still runs on a programmed algorithm. Programming has got quite complex and sophisticated that A.I. can seem intelligent but is only following what it was programmed to.

No terminator style future nor will we have any A.I apocalypse.

The only thing I can see is countries using A.I for automated warfare.
 

kcwildman

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A.I. will change the world as we know it .
in many ways it has already.
I knew bad shit was on the way when they showed the world WATSON on jeopardy.
some how I don't think the A.I. these Idiot lab rats are building is going to turn out like the computors on the star ship Enterprise.

also in the book of rev. chapt. 13. at some point they make an image of the beast that some how come's to life, and both moves on it's own, and is able to speak. it could Easly be thought that it is a ref. to an A.I. robot getting brought on line.

at any rate that genie is out of the bottle now .
 

MODAT7

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also in the book of rev. chapt. 13. at some point they make an image of the beast that some how come's to life, and both moves on it's own, and is able to speak. it could Easly be thought that it is a ref. to an A.I. robot getting brought on line.
I remember reading about this. The beast gets slain then brought back to life. That doesn't happen with a biological organism. It sounds like someone restored a backup and the AI would get even worse.
 

kcwildman

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I remember reading about this. The beast gets slain then brought back to life. That doesn't happen with a biological organism. It sounds like someone restored a backup and the AI would get even worse.


yes the beast or antichrist receives a mortal head wound. dies and is healed of it by the spirit of the devil himself entering , possessing his body. he then brings the image , statue, robot to life some how.

here is chapt. 13 . KJV. however I feel I must say that the exact meaning of this text has been debated for some time by a very large number of scholars and thinkers.

as yet we have no way of knowing what it is really saying, it all sounds like some kind of harry potter shit to me.
I seem to remember hearing somewhere that. way far advanced tech. can appear to be magic or make someone into a god to those observing.

1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.

10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
 

unholy_dragon

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No religious crap! I don't follow the bible nor do I ever care about the past. Man will always overcome machine no matter how sophisticated A.I get.

If you ever done programming then you know that any A.I is not self aware. We are able to think and create. A.I can only recall information that was fed into it. It does not have the capability to create things by it's self.
 

PaulaJedi

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Looking through the media and seeing that some scientists think A.I. is the same threat as nuclear war.

I think A.I. is far from that as it still runs on a programmed algorithm. Programming has got quite complex and sophisticated that A.I. can seem intelligent but is only following what it was programmed to.

No terminator style future nor will we have any A.I apocalypse.

The only thing I can see is countries using A.I for automated warfare.

Bad people will program AI to control.
 

kcwildman

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No religious crap! I don't follow the bible nor do I ever care about the past. Man will always overcome machine no matter how sophisticated A.I get.

If you ever done programming then you know that any A.I is not self aware. We are able to think and create. A.I can only recall information that was fed into it. It does not have the capability to create things by it's self.


you are right it is not able to have creative thought.
it will always respond to any given circumstance with a logic-based action.
it will gather all the information about the problem presented to it, and it will choose the most logical solution.
guess what that will always be?
logic says remove the problem,
ooops oh shit we humans are the problem.
no new or creative thought needed just logical deduction.

can you see where I am going with this.
creative thought has never been the problem with programing a machine.
it has always been how to put stupid illogical shit like mercy, and compassion into a logic-based machine.


and just for shits and grins ....... you,,,,,,, me,,,,,,, and everyone who draws a breath on this mudball have a belief system.
you would do well not to refer to someone else's as crap.
while my skin is tuff as dragon scales others may not be so forgiving.
 

kcwildman

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just to show it is a real threat here is a little bit of lite reading for those paranoid nuts





during the interview with the creators (embedded below), Android Dick said, “…don’t worry, even if I evolve into terminator I will still be nice to you, I will keep you warm and safe in my people zoo where I can watch you for old time’s sake. [emphasis added]


this is not the only incident where A.I. has already made public statements of this nature.....
 

OakFieldAlienz444

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it's a blessing and a curse, mostly a curse because
it will get so good that no one will be able to distinguish
what was made by a human or what was made by AI.

Now that we have it and all the nations are vying for control
of it there is no turning back, so it simply is what it is.

But yes it could easily take over and wreck everything if
it gets self aware enough.
 

PaulaJedi

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you are right it is not able to have creative thought.
it will always respond to any given circumstance with a logic-based action.
it will gather all the information about the problem presented to it, and it will choose the most logical solution.
guess what that will always be?
logic says remove the problem,
ooops oh shit we humans are the problem.
no new or creative thought needed just logical deduction.

can you see where I am going with this.
creative thought has never been the problem with programing a machine.
it has always been how to put stupid illogical shit like mercy, and compassion into a logic-based machine.


and just for shits and grins ....... you,,,,,,, me,,,,,,, and everyone who draws a breath on this mudball have a belief system.
you would do well not to refer to someone else's as crap.
while my skin is tuff as dragon scales others may not be so forgiving.

EXACTLY. 100% KC.

I don't trust our government enough to make sure there is a "do not destroy humans" code in their software. Besides, AI will develop the ability to change it! AI already makes jokes about "taking over the world". It already has that thought! It may be too late.
There will most definitely be an AI vs. humans war in the far future.
 

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