A Soldiers Winter

[Khaos]

The day before it wasn't snowing.

The trees are strangers, leering, disapproving in the ash of winter ..my world, my life, my wandering path.

I pray God's eyes may once again gaze upon me and remind me that I am still His child.

I only (think) I remember the first line but the last one I remember. It has quite a few more lines that I don't remember. It is rumored this was written first as a letter by a soldier. After he died it was added to and edited by others. In my opinion, it has become a symbol for the collective guilt my parents' generation feels for what became of the world.

What I find interesting about this is, this poem was written by a man named Larry Cluck in 2006. Yet you can find this poem in the John Titor chat archives in 2001.

This is the version from 2006:

The day before it wasn't snowing.
After amber suns made our Earth now glowing.

The trees are strangers, leering, disapproving
In the ash of winter, are minds are now moving

My world, my life, my wandering path.
It seems not God, but man's own wrath.

I pray God's eyes may us once again,
Gaze upon us at our end.

We will rebuild, we will renew,
From a world of greed and lust that left so few.

Remind me that I am still his child.
And provide us with your mercy mild.

 

[PaulaJedi]

@Khaos How did everyone miss that? I did a Google search but can't seem to verify that. (Verification is for my own knowledge. It doesn't meant I don't believe you). I think that little piece of information alone is significant. I can't believe I missed that these past few years. There is a Larry Cluck that lives in Florida. I wonder if it's the same man ---- yet another tie to Florida if it is.

 

[Khaos]

Larry Cluck might be Larry Haber

I've been doing a search on Mr. Titor for a few hours and I came across an enlightening article about Haber and the whole John Titor thing. What is interesting is how it states that a leading theory is his son Brandon Haber may be the one responsible for John Titor.

I did a search for Brandon and found him on Facebook and its him. Its his legit facebook. He also went by a username "Maledri" years ago. But I haven't found much on that. Not trying to debunk this, just trying to gather some unheard information.

I guess in a way I am trying to debunk this. What I am looking for is altered content.

The March 12th, 2015 stretches as far back as 2003 according to forum posts I have found. This poem on the other hand doesn't surface until 2009...

The Wayback machine shows this poem existing in 2005.

 

[PaulaJedi]

Larry Cluck might be Larry Haber

I've been doing a search on Mr. Titor for a few hours and I came across an enlightening article about Haber and the whole John Titor thing. What is interesting is how it states that a leading theory is his son Brandon Haber may be the one responsible for John Titor.

I did a search for Brandon and found him on Facebook and its him. Its his legit facebook. He also went by a username "Maledri" years ago. But I haven't found much on that. Not trying to debunk this, just trying to gather some unheard information.

You are making connections. That's good. There have been many theories about Haber's son's involvement, but Larry denies it. The Larry Cluck I found doesn't look like Haber, but it doesn't mean it's the same guy.

 

[PaulaJedi]

A Larry Cluck also wrote this:

The Silent Soldier by Larry Cluck (Paperback) - Lulu

Self published. The Silent Soldier. May not be significant.

 

[Khaos]

Larry Cluck through facebook:

Computer Specialist - Department of Defense, he's retired

Larry Cluck could be a pen name. Like when Stephen King authored books under Richard Bachman.

Something I found interesting about Brandon. He has a fascination with people who work in the military. He wrote a note a few years ago. About a guy named Boyd. Colonel Boyd.

Boyd: The fighter pilot who changed the art of war
s originally singled out as “Forty-Second Boyd”. As a student and instructor at the Air Force’s Fighter Weapons School at Nellis Air Force Base -- the training school that the Navy’s TOPGUN was modeled after – he had the opportunity to fly against many opponents using the best fighters the American Air Force had to offer. He had a standing bet. Place any fighter pilot in an equal plane directly behind him at altitude over the Nellis ranges. Within 40 seconds he would reverse that position and have a firing solution on his foe, or he owed them 40 bucks. This bet stood while he instructed the best fighter pilots in the world for over five years. He never lost once.

Later, he was instrumental in developing the Energy-Maneuverability Theory (E-M Theory), which was a way to quantify fighter performance at various altitudes, airspeeds, angles of attack, bank angles, etc. It finally offered a way to show at which energy levels different planes had an advantage. Armed with the calculations from the new E-M Theory, as well as data on Soviet export planes, new tactics could be devised for Vietnam pilots that allowed them a significant advantage over the North Koreans. Many pilots credited their lives to tactics that wouldn’t have existed, but for Colonel Boyd. E-M Theory also greatly informed the designs of the F-15 and F-16 fighters (and, of course, the F-22 and F-35).

The ever-curious Boyd eventually delved deep into philosophy and history, developing an 8+ hour briefing for military officers called “Patterns of Conflict”. In it, he used a decision-making model called the “OODA Loop” (for Observe, Orient, Decide, Act). He uses this model to argue that agility and the ability to make decisions faster than an opponent are the keys to success in conflict. By “getting inside another’s OODA Loop”, you can make decisions faster than they, and they end up reacting to outdated information. This concept of rapidly changing environments to confuse an opponent is an expansion on Sun Tzu’s ideas, and was used to great effect during the Marine invasion of Kuwait during the Gulf War. Many small teams of Marines “went through Iraqi forces like water going downhill”, causing Iraqi commanders to believe that the Marines were much more numerous than they actually were. Many Iraqis surrendered to comparatively small forces, and large amounts of reinforcements were sent to the amphibious landing zones and away from the main American army thrust through Saudi Arabia. Then-Defense Secretary Dick Cheney was a friend of Colonel Boyd’s and credits him with the ideas that led to the quick victory of American forces in the Gulf War.

Boyd was a loud, arm-waving, cigar-smoking, take-no-nonsense Fighter Pilot with a capital F. He loved the idea of proving everyone else wrong (and making sure they knew it, too). He was an amazing character and possibly the greatest military theoretician since Sun Tzu. Robert Coram’s biography is extremely well-written, and if it’s possible to do a character like John Boyd justice, he has done it.

Buy the book. Read it. You’ll thank me later.

Boyd: The Fighter Pilot Who Changed the Art of War: Robert Coram: 9780316796880: Amazon.com: Books

I mean he wrote that. All of it. Just the way he writes... reminds me of Titor's postings.

 

[Khaos]

Checking out Larry Haber's facebook and you view the friends list and low and behold, who pops up!

John Titor!

John Titor | Facebook

I thought the Haber's denied being associated with Titor? Why would Larry have Titor as a friend on Facebook?

 

[Khaos]

So my theory is...

Larry Cluck is the real deal, a former computer specialist for the department of defense. Brandon Haber whom according to this article is a very intelligent person, who has done work for the NSA/DOD in the past.

The time traveller on the internet

If Brandon was that far up the governments ass, I bet he got into contact with Larry. Larry may have had that poem well before 2001, maybe he gave it to Brandon and Brandon just used it in his postings. Therefore, he learned information from Larry, and was able to work up the John Titor guise. If you read into what I have presented and make the same connections I have, you can see what I'm saying.

Anyways something else I noticed is a lot of dates that Titor gives out are biblical dates. And from his postings, he is very close to God. Look up some biblical dates for March 12 and get back to me

Not saying any of this was an elaborate hoax or maybe I am. We could wake up to nuclear armaggedon next thursday, but I don't know.

 

[PaulaJedi]

Checking out Larry Haber's facebook and you view the friends list and low and behold, who pops up!

John Titor!

John Titor | Facebook

I thought the Haber's denied being associated with Titor? Why would Larry have Titor as a friend on Facebook?

Is he the type the accepts ALL friend requests?

 

[Khaos]

Which one, titor or haber?