OakFieldAlienz444
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My opinion on what is probably going on in the spiritual realm, I have come
to a slightly unique perspective that is mostly borrowed from Gnosticism which
I think is the closest religion to the truth, along with a slight garnish of Christianity:
The world we live in has been completely corrupted.
Like it or not there is no real justice. There are isolated incidents of good things
that happen here and there but when good people die of horrible prolonged diseases
even after praying for their life to just end they die slow horrible deaths.
Some might say----well so what? I say there ain't no way this world is
benevolant if that is happening. There should be some form of direct contact
with angels or good entities who can intervene when shit like this happens,
but typically speaking this doesn't happen often, or as often as it should.
Secondly, while most people would say the reason that there is no divine intervention
is because God simply does not exist or there is nothing beyond us?
Sadly, I have reason to believe that there is more to things than just this
physical world. I have had out of body experiences more times than I can count
and have felt the spiritual world many times. It is very different from this world.
They say in Heaven that you just feel such overwhelming joy and bliss
and much more light weight, hence you don't even have earthly desires anymore.
Hell they say is the opposite. You feel very heavy and weighted down.
Everything is ten times more physical. But not in a good way. You are
forced to endure pain for eternity while feeling very heavy
and weighted down---------the opposite of the light and airy feeling of Heaven.
My conclusion? Hell is closer to what THIS world is. The Bible says
Satan and the demons run this entire world and that those who
follow Christ (if you read between the lines) are basically attempting to escape the matrix/simulation through spiritual advancement,
we should stay in this world and live in it but not be OF this world we are to be in the world but not OF it:
“I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. “I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.” (John 17:11, 14–15.)
For Satan, the god of this world has blinded the unbelievers’ minds [that they should not discern the truth], preventing them from seeing the illuminating light of the Gospel of the glory of Christ (the Messiah), Who is the Image and Likeness of God.
The Bible constantly reiterates that the earth is evil ever since the fall.
The Gnostics argue that the real "Satan" was the one who created us and put us in this
flawed and stupid world. The real temptation was leaving the tree and the apple there in the first place.
I am not saying I necessarily agree with that. Throwing out lots of different perspectives here.
gnosticismexplained.org
Basically the theory in simple terms is this "God" or this false god created us in his image and then blamed us
for being depraved just like he was. Don't be fucked up like
I am even though I made you to be like me. A hypocritical fake god who
overthrew the real Heaven and Jesus was actually the one who tried to stop him contrary to popular belief.
Yet the belief the old testament god was evil usually draws people into Satanism,
when Satan was actually two entities in one perhaps, the snake AND the guy who
put him in the garden. Or the snake wasn't really Satan the guy in the clouds wasn't God or vice versa.
Many Gnostics are Luciferians-------but this does not mean that there isn't a hidden Biblical
and Christian interpretation of Gnosticism that could cast Jesus in a positive light----just not his dad.
I think the trap most people fall into is lumping spirituality soley with theology, or lumping
Christ soley with Christianity. The reason I believe Jesus did not get married is because
I think he was above that. I think he was above our physical limitations and trying to
help us achieve the same feats to escape a corrupt world---not through death but by
transcending limitation and resisting the urge to sin.
Joseph Stalin once said that when one person dies it's a tragedy and when a million die
it's nothing more than a statistic. Some further right of Stalin even argue that
we shouldn't care about what happens to only a few people because the majority
is what matters. But by this logic shouldn't we be allowed to get away with murder so long
as it's only ONE person? Therefore-----everyone's lives do matter, and
we DO live in an unfair and evil vicious world that seeks to destroy us unless
we can figure out the hoax and then when we die we can become aware
that we are all that once was, all that is, and all that ever will be and we
will never have to reincarnate on this cursed planet again.
The idea it's about "learning lessons" is a sick twisted lie.
You cannot learn "lessons" in a meaningles world run by Satan.
Who exactly in our incarnations are teaching us lessons?
Other humans? In other words other hypocritical lying sacks
of shit who would sell your soul for a donut but just so happened
to teach YOU how to sell other peoples souls for donuts?
Not buying it.
These ideas to me make way more sense than any religion and help cast light
onto why there has never been peace on earth for all these billions of years.
Why? Because this world operates on evil as fuel. Militaries have no money
without war, doctors have no patients without the sick, and everything depends
on the "alpha people" suppressing the "beta people"
In reality many of these "beta people" could be alpha people if given the chance but they never are.
Because there is no logic to this world and no rhyme or reason to anything. To who dies,
lives or anything. We have to create our own meaning in this world.
The biggest lie ever told is that the good guys always win.
Here on Earth the BAD GUYS always win. At least almost always.
In this world there are no perfect people period and the "bad guys"
are usually doing bad because they feel almost have no choice in some situations.
Again---that is because the REAL battle between good and evil is spiritual and not
even taking place here on Earth.
However, if you do good deeds on Earth your reward is Heaven.
The bad people who "win" in this world end up in Hell, hence
in the long run the good guys DO always win but not in the way you see in movies,
the good guys ONLY win spiritually.
If you don't create your own meaning to life, life will create it for you in a conspiracy of interdimensional sorts.
Life is about creating meaning, creating meaning and sticking to it is what crushes the conspiracy of the demons.
to a slightly unique perspective that is mostly borrowed from Gnosticism which
I think is the closest religion to the truth, along with a slight garnish of Christianity:
The world we live in has been completely corrupted.
Like it or not there is no real justice. There are isolated incidents of good things
that happen here and there but when good people die of horrible prolonged diseases
even after praying for their life to just end they die slow horrible deaths.
Some might say----well so what? I say there ain't no way this world is
benevolant if that is happening. There should be some form of direct contact
with angels or good entities who can intervene when shit like this happens,
but typically speaking this doesn't happen often, or as often as it should.
Secondly, while most people would say the reason that there is no divine intervention
is because God simply does not exist or there is nothing beyond us?
Sadly, I have reason to believe that there is more to things than just this
physical world. I have had out of body experiences more times than I can count
and have felt the spiritual world many times. It is very different from this world.
They say in Heaven that you just feel such overwhelming joy and bliss
and much more light weight, hence you don't even have earthly desires anymore.
Hell they say is the opposite. You feel very heavy and weighted down.
Everything is ten times more physical. But not in a good way. You are
forced to endure pain for eternity while feeling very heavy
and weighted down---------the opposite of the light and airy feeling of Heaven.
My conclusion? Hell is closer to what THIS world is. The Bible says
Satan and the demons run this entire world and that those who
follow Christ (if you read between the lines) are basically attempting to escape the matrix/simulation through spiritual advancement,
we should stay in this world and live in it but not be OF this world we are to be in the world but not OF it:
“I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. “I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.” (John 17:11, 14–15.)
For Satan, the god of this world has blinded the unbelievers’ minds [that they should not discern the truth], preventing them from seeing the illuminating light of the Gospel of the glory of Christ (the Messiah), Who is the Image and Likeness of God.
The Bible constantly reiterates that the earth is evil ever since the fall.
The Gnostics argue that the real "Satan" was the one who created us and put us in this
flawed and stupid world. The real temptation was leaving the tree and the apple there in the first place.
I am not saying I necessarily agree with that. Throwing out lots of different perspectives here.
The Gnostic Demiurge - Gnosticism Explained
The demiurge (Greek demiurgos,[1] “craftsman”[2]) is the being who created the world in Gnosticism. The Gnostics identified him with the god of the Old Testament. The Gnostic scriptures portray him as ignorant, malicious, and utterly inferior to the true God who sent Christ to earth to save...
gnosticismexplained.org
Basically the theory in simple terms is this "God" or this false god created us in his image and then blamed us
for being depraved just like he was. Don't be fucked up like
I am even though I made you to be like me. A hypocritical fake god who
overthrew the real Heaven and Jesus was actually the one who tried to stop him contrary to popular belief.
Yet the belief the old testament god was evil usually draws people into Satanism,
when Satan was actually two entities in one perhaps, the snake AND the guy who
put him in the garden. Or the snake wasn't really Satan the guy in the clouds wasn't God or vice versa.
Many Gnostics are Luciferians-------but this does not mean that there isn't a hidden Biblical
and Christian interpretation of Gnosticism that could cast Jesus in a positive light----just not his dad.
I think the trap most people fall into is lumping spirituality soley with theology, or lumping
Christ soley with Christianity. The reason I believe Jesus did not get married is because
I think he was above that. I think he was above our physical limitations and trying to
help us achieve the same feats to escape a corrupt world---not through death but by
transcending limitation and resisting the urge to sin.
Joseph Stalin once said that when one person dies it's a tragedy and when a million die
it's nothing more than a statistic. Some further right of Stalin even argue that
we shouldn't care about what happens to only a few people because the majority
is what matters. But by this logic shouldn't we be allowed to get away with murder so long
as it's only ONE person? Therefore-----everyone's lives do matter, and
we DO live in an unfair and evil vicious world that seeks to destroy us unless
we can figure out the hoax and then when we die we can become aware
that we are all that once was, all that is, and all that ever will be and we
will never have to reincarnate on this cursed planet again.
The idea it's about "learning lessons" is a sick twisted lie.
You cannot learn "lessons" in a meaningles world run by Satan.
Who exactly in our incarnations are teaching us lessons?
Other humans? In other words other hypocritical lying sacks
of shit who would sell your soul for a donut but just so happened
to teach YOU how to sell other peoples souls for donuts?
Not buying it.
These ideas to me make way more sense than any religion and help cast light
onto why there has never been peace on earth for all these billions of years.
Why? Because this world operates on evil as fuel. Militaries have no money
without war, doctors have no patients without the sick, and everything depends
on the "alpha people" suppressing the "beta people"
In reality many of these "beta people" could be alpha people if given the chance but they never are.
Because there is no logic to this world and no rhyme or reason to anything. To who dies,
lives or anything. We have to create our own meaning in this world.
The biggest lie ever told is that the good guys always win.
Here on Earth the BAD GUYS always win. At least almost always.
In this world there are no perfect people period and the "bad guys"
are usually doing bad because they feel almost have no choice in some situations.
Again---that is because the REAL battle between good and evil is spiritual and not
even taking place here on Earth.
However, if you do good deeds on Earth your reward is Heaven.
The bad people who "win" in this world end up in Hell, hence
in the long run the good guys DO always win but not in the way you see in movies,
the good guys ONLY win spiritually.
If you don't create your own meaning to life, life will create it for you in a conspiracy of interdimensional sorts.
Life is about creating meaning, creating meaning and sticking to it is what crushes the conspiracy of the demons.
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