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<blockquote data-quote="Justinian" data-source="post: 65692" data-attributes="member: 923"><p>I had watched the original 60 minutes show back when it aired. I had forgotten about it until recently and I was looking through some Russian News websites for .. stuff. And I came across it again. There are a few websites that talk about all the abandoned things in Russia. You know.. in Russia they are about as technologically advanced as we are and farther ahead in some areas. We, in the West, like to portray them as the backwoods hillbillies of the world but it is far from that. Sure they don't always have the latest iPhone the day it comes out, but they have to wait for it to come to them, it's not that they don't accept it. BUT, their past is riddled with a history of great expansion. The Communist days of the Soviet Union, when you look past the attrocities are something to be taken in awe of. In the US, we all go buy land and live there. In the Soviet Union, you did not buy land. Everyone was rounded up from the countryside and brought to the cities. Then you were "assigned" a home or flat based on your status within the Communist Party. They were building and building more buildings in their regular cities, and when the iron curtain fell, land privatization became a reality. All building stopped at that point almost over night too, cause nobody was getting paid. So this is why there are so many abandoned buildings and structures in Russia and other parts of the former Soviet Union. So that's a ROUGH idea of why things are like that.. I know someone is bound to say that isn't EXACTLY how it happened.. but it gives you a good idea.</p><p> </p><p>When I was in Romania I learned about all this from a few locals that were guiding us around. They took us to their parents home. This older gentleman was a former higher ranking individual of the Communist Party in Romania. The hammer and sickle still hang in his home. We were kinda nervous walking in as Americans and seeing this.. but he was the nicest man you could ever met. He opened his home to us like we were family. And his home was in their money what they consider to be a millionaire neighborhood flat.</p><p> </p><p>We also learned the hard way that these flats are like one big family. In Eastern European countries like that, it is a good sign to bring a gift for the family you are visiting. Now NOTE, do NOT ever bring an even number. It is bad luck to be given even numbers of flowers or other gifts. So.. we brought wine. Lots and lots of wine. Our guides begged us not to. But we didnt see the harm in it. Well when the old man realized that it was a gift for him.. he sent the other sons to all the other flats to let them know they'd be drinking with Americans. Most of them had never met an American before. So we did shots of wine for hours. I've never done shots of wine before, but we did that night. There was a line of people coming in the door and they all wanted to drink with us. So everyone came in and got one shot. And we had to do a shot with all of them. Wine hangovers are the worst. And the next day really sucked. We also partied with the daughter of a Colonel of the old Secret Police. Talk about needing to change your pants when she told us that one.. But I'll leave that story for another time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Justinian, post: 65692, member: 923"] I had watched the original 60 minutes show back when it aired. I had forgotten about it until recently and I was looking through some Russian News websites for .. stuff. And I came across it again. There are a few websites that talk about all the abandoned things in Russia. You know.. in Russia they are about as technologically advanced as we are and farther ahead in some areas. We, in the West, like to portray them as the backwoods hillbillies of the world but it is far from that. Sure they don't always have the latest iPhone the day it comes out, but they have to wait for it to come to them, it's not that they don't accept it. BUT, their past is riddled with a history of great expansion. The Communist days of the Soviet Union, when you look past the attrocities are something to be taken in awe of. In the US, we all go buy land and live there. In the Soviet Union, you did not buy land. Everyone was rounded up from the countryside and brought to the cities. Then you were "assigned" a home or flat based on your status within the Communist Party. They were building and building more buildings in their regular cities, and when the iron curtain fell, land privatization became a reality. All building stopped at that point almost over night too, cause nobody was getting paid. So this is why there are so many abandoned buildings and structures in Russia and other parts of the former Soviet Union. So that's a ROUGH idea of why things are like that.. I know someone is bound to say that isn't EXACTLY how it happened.. but it gives you a good idea. When I was in Romania I learned about all this from a few locals that were guiding us around. They took us to their parents home. This older gentleman was a former higher ranking individual of the Communist Party in Romania. The hammer and sickle still hang in his home. We were kinda nervous walking in as Americans and seeing this.. but he was the nicest man you could ever met. He opened his home to us like we were family. And his home was in their money what they consider to be a millionaire neighborhood flat. We also learned the hard way that these flats are like one big family. In Eastern European countries like that, it is a good sign to bring a gift for the family you are visiting. Now NOTE, do NOT ever bring an even number. It is bad luck to be given even numbers of flowers or other gifts. So.. we brought wine. Lots and lots of wine. Our guides begged us not to. But we didnt see the harm in it. Well when the old man realized that it was a gift for him.. he sent the other sons to all the other flats to let them know they'd be drinking with Americans. Most of them had never met an American before. So we did shots of wine for hours. I've never done shots of wine before, but we did that night. There was a line of people coming in the door and they all wanted to drink with us. So everyone came in and got one shot. And we had to do a shot with all of them. Wine hangovers are the worst. And the next day really sucked. We also partied with the daughter of a Colonel of the old Secret Police. Talk about needing to change your pants when she told us that one.. But I'll leave that story for another time. [/QUOTE]
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