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<blockquote data-quote="Harte" data-source="post: 47918" data-attributes="member: 443"><p>The planets follow elliptical orbits around the Sun.</p><p></p><p>This assumes a reference frame involving a motionless Sun (IOW, you are moving along with the Sun through the galaxy.)</p><p></p><p>The Sun moves, however.</p><p></p><p>So if you choose a reference frame outside the solar system, with a moving Sun, you can describe the motion of the planets as helical. In this case, you are motionless at the galactic core, observing the motion of the stars in the galaxy itself as they oribit (again, elliptically) around the galactic core.</p><p></p><p>Obviously, the galaxy moves as well.</p><p></p><p>So if you choose a reference frame outside the galaxy, with the galaxy's motion considered, you can describe the motion of the planets as a helix that coils around on itself in another helix, like a helical rope (the rope is the paths of the planets) that is in a coil (the coil is the motion of the Sun around the galaxy) that is shaped like a spring (the galaxy moving through space.) This last observation would require you to be at the center of gravity of the Local Group of galaxies, observing the Milky Way as it orbits together with the Local Group of galaxies.</p><p></p><p>Because there is no such thing as absolute motion, that is, there's always another reference frame you can observe from (there's no "still spot" in the universe,) this mental exercise can theoretically be continued <em>ad infinitum.</em></p><p></p><p>The reason I said that this "discovery" is a century old is that it was about that long ago that it was discovered that the Solar System exists within a rotating elliptical galaxy.</p><p></p><p>Regarding your question, it depends entirely on the orientation of the Sun's axis of rotation with that of the galactic axis of rotation. Not being an astronomer, I don't know this offhand. However, I'm certain you can find out if you actually want to know. Surely you can google this up.</p><p></p><p>If the Sun's axis is parallel with the Sun's motion around the galaxy, then your sinusoidal helix would be the answer.</p><p></p><p>If the Sun's axis is perpendicular to the Sun's motion around the galaxy, then you have a flat helix, like a curlicue (ever use a "spirograph" toy?) to describe planetary motion.</p><p></p><p>If the Sun's axis is somewhere in between these two examples, you have a complicated series of planetary paths to consider.</p><p></p><p>Harte</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Harte, post: 47918, member: 443"] The planets follow elliptical orbits around the Sun. This assumes a reference frame involving a motionless Sun (IOW, you are moving along with the Sun through the galaxy.) The Sun moves, however. So if you choose a reference frame outside the solar system, with a moving Sun, you can describe the motion of the planets as helical. In this case, you are motionless at the galactic core, observing the motion of the stars in the galaxy itself as they oribit (again, elliptically) around the galactic core. Obviously, the galaxy moves as well. So if you choose a reference frame outside the galaxy, with the galaxy's motion considered, you can describe the motion of the planets as a helix that coils around on itself in another helix, like a helical rope (the rope is the paths of the planets) that is in a coil (the coil is the motion of the Sun around the galaxy) that is shaped like a spring (the galaxy moving through space.) This last observation would require you to be at the center of gravity of the Local Group of galaxies, observing the Milky Way as it orbits together with the Local Group of galaxies. Because there is no such thing as absolute motion, that is, there's always another reference frame you can observe from (there's no "still spot" in the universe,) this mental exercise can theoretically be continued [I]ad infinitum.[/I] The reason I said that this "discovery" is a century old is that it was about that long ago that it was discovered that the Solar System exists within a rotating elliptical galaxy. Regarding your question, it depends entirely on the orientation of the Sun's axis of rotation with that of the galactic axis of rotation. Not being an astronomer, I don't know this offhand. However, I'm certain you can find out if you actually want to know. Surely you can google this up. If the Sun's axis is parallel with the Sun's motion around the galaxy, then your sinusoidal helix would be the answer. If the Sun's axis is perpendicular to the Sun's motion around the galaxy, then you have a flat helix, like a curlicue (ever use a "spirograph" toy?) to describe planetary motion. If the Sun's axis is somewhere in between these two examples, you have a complicated series of planetary paths to consider. Harte [/QUOTE]
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