NEWS: Jesus portrait taken down at Ohio school due to lawsuit fears

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Jesus portrait taken down at Ohio school due to lawsuit fears

CINCINNATI - A Jesus portrait that has hung in a southern Ohio school district since 1947 wastaken down Wednesday, because of concerns about the potential costs of a federal lawsuit against its display.

The superintendent of Jackson City Schools said the decision was made after the district's insurance company declined to cover litigation expenses. He said the faculty adviser and two student members of the Hi-Y Club, a Christian-based service club that the school says owns the portrait, took it down at his direction.

"At the end of the day, we just couldn't roll the dice with taxpayer money," Superintendent Phil Howard told The Associated Press. "When you get into these kinds of legal battles, you're not talking about money you can raise with bake sales and car washes. It's not fair to take those resources from our kids' education."

The American Civil Liberties Union of Ohio and the Madison, Wis.-based Freedom from Religion Foundation had sued on behalf of a student and two parents, calling the portrait an unconstitutional promotion of religion in a public school. The student and parents weren't identified publicly by the groups, saying they would face backlash from portrait supporters, some of whom had suggested that they should leave town and find another school.

An ACLU spokesman said the school disclosed its decision at a federal court hearing Tuesday in Columbus. The organization will wait to see whether the portrait stays down.

"The case is still open; there was no actual ruling (by the court)," spokesman Nick Worner said. But he added there would be no reason to pursue a court order if the portrait isn't put back up.

Hiram Sasser, an attorney with the Liberty Institute that helped defend the school, said Wednesday that the Hi-Y Club could file its own lawsuit for the right to display the portrait, but he didn't know its plans. Messages were left for the club's adviser and legal representative. Howard said the portrait was in the club's possession.

The "Head of Christ," a popular depiction of Jesus, had been in an entranceway's "Hall of Honor" in a middle school building that was formerly the high school. It was near portraits of dozens of prominent alumni and people with local roots such as the late four-term Ohio Gov. James Rhodes. The portrait was moved recently by the club to the current high school building.

A complaint that triggered the February lawsuit put the 2,500-student district in the midst of the ongoing national debate over what religious-themed displays are permissible. Jackson is a city of some 7,000 in mostly rural Appalachia.

The ACLU had an earlier lawsuit against schools in nearby Adams County over a Ten Commandments display that federal courts ruled was primarily religious in nature; however, courts including the U.S. Supreme Court have allowed some displays if deciding their primary purpose is non-religious and they don't promote one religion over another.

With vocal backing from many community members, Jackson's board initially voted to keep the portrait up, saying it belonged to the Hi-Y Club that donated it and that removing it would infringe upon students' private rights to freedom of speech. The board said it was part of a "limited public forum," and that other student clubs could put up appropriate portraits reflecting their mission. Howard said Wednesday no others had been put up.

The groups that sued said in court documents Monday that the move was "nothing more than a contrived pretext to conceal" what they said was the school officials' continued involvement with the maintenance and display of the portrait.

With the portrait gone three days after Easter Sunday, Howard said he expected most residents to be disappointed.

"Obviously, the majority of people in our community wanted it to stay up somewhere in the school district," he said. "This all happened so fast, I don't know that anybody has had time to digest it."

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It may not be the nicest thing in the world for them to do but I do agree.

No favoritism. Not for or against.

However, if the majority call for a thing (anything) and only a minority of one or a comparable few (less than a dozen) have a problem with it.... I would not advise changing the world for them but rather I would agree with the will of the majority.
 

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It may not be the nicest thing in the world for them to do but I do agree.

No favoritism. Not for or against.

However, if the majority call for a thing (anything) and only a minority of one or a comparable few (less than a dozen) have a problem with it.... I would not advise changing the world for them but rather I would agree with the will of the majority.


I remember when the majority of Americans didn't want interracial marriages and integration. Interracial marriages were against the law in most states. It took the Supreme Court (Loving vs. Virginia) to change all that. The United States is a REPUBLIC, not a Democracy. In a Democracy, the majority rules. That is not how America is supposed to be run.

Bible Prophecy foretells that in the End Times, the Last Days, Christians will be hated. We are living in those days.
 

titorite

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It may not be the nicest thing in the world for them to do but I do agree.

No favoritism. Not for or against.

However, if the majority call for a thing (anything) and only a minority of one or a comparable few (less than a dozen) have a problem with it.... I would not advise changing the world for them but rather I would agree with the will of the majority.


I remember when the majority of Americans didn't want interracial marriages and integration. Interracial marriages were against the law in most states. It took the Supreme Court (Loving vs. Virginia) to change all that. The United States is a REPUBLIC, not a Democracy. In a Democracy, the majority rules. That is not how America is supposed to be run.

Bible Prophecy foretells that in the End Times, the Last Days, Christians will be hated. We are living in those days.

If you can remember when the majority of americans cared about the issue of interracial marriage then that would put you past your 50s/

And you are right it was an issue at one point. And liberty was upheld.


Regarding the US. We are technical As thus follows. A Democratic Representative Republic. That is what we were established as after the articles of confederation were amended to make this a republic rather than a confederation. We democratically elect some portions of our government (The house of representives and the house of senate (in most states)) Some offices in our government are appointed (The supreme court justices) and some are Elected by appointed people (the prez) which does make any sense and has lead to a defacto government by appointment and the current tyranny we do not enjoy today.

But yeah The articles of confederation failed... so the turned us into a democratic represetive republc. Their are all kinds of republics.... It might be more honest to call us a bannana republic.

And I still think the the majority should not be oppressed by the will of the few or the one...


One person has a problem with jesus painting? And wants it taken down so as to not offended... I'd tell him to look at the floor instead.
 

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Too many people are offended far far to easy, i know this being a Gun carrying C&C card holder, society needs to get back to minding there own business and staying out of affairs that do not concern them, so what if someone wants a picture of Jesus on the wall, last time i checked it wasnt shooting laser beams out of his eyes at none christians "granted that would be kind of sweet" So leave it alone, BUT we live in a sensitive nanny state now.
 

Samstwitch

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I remember when the majority of Americans didn't want interracial marriages and integration. Interracial marriages were against the law in most states. It took the Supreme Court (Loving vs. Virginia) to change all that. The United States is a REPUBLIC, not a Democracy. In a Democracy, the majority rules. That is not how America is supposed to be run.


I would also add to this, what's happening with the issue of Gay Marriage is very similar to what happened with Interracial Marriages. Now the legality of Gay Marriage is at the Supreme Court being heard just as the Loving vs. Virginia case was. We have yet to see what the outcome will be. (I am a Christian for Gay Rights.)

Not meaning to sound off-topic here, but this relates to that the fact that with some issues, we are not living in a Republic, but a Democracy. In today's society, Christians rights have all been outlawed, which in the past were ALWAYS recognized in the USA until the days of Madalyn Murray O'Hair...that was the beginning of the end for Christian rights in America.
 

titorite

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Too many people are offended far far to easy, i know this being a Gun carrying C&C card holder, society needs to get back to minding there own business and staying out of affairs that do not concern them, so


Preach on!

State needs to mind its own business and remember that it is not a corperation . I do not need to be helped. Do not ask me to please come again.
 

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