Prediction from NSA Whistleblower Snowden: ‘Truth is coming, and it cannot be stopped’

Samstwitch

Senior Member
Messages
5,111
Prediction from NSA Whistleblower Snowden: ‘Truth is coming, and it cannot be stopped’

Edward Snowden, America's most-wanted whistleblower, participated in a live online chat with The Guardian on Monday.

The 29-year-old former defense contractor, who exposed the National Security Agency's massive domestic surveillance program after fleeing the United States, answered a series of questions submitted through the Guardian's website and Twitter (hashtag #AskSnowden).

First, Snowden stressed that his controversial leaks did not reveal any U.S. "operations against legitimate military targets":

I pointed out where the NSA has hacked civilian infrastructure such as universities, hospitals, and private businesses because it is dangerous. These nakedly, aggressively criminal acts are wrong no matter the target. Not only that, when NSA makes a technical mistake during an exploitation operation, critical systems crash. Congress hasn't declared war on the countries—the majority of them are our allies—but without asking for public permission, NSA is running network operations against them that affect millions of innocent people. And for what? So we can have secret access to a computer in a country we're not even fighting? So we can potentially reveal a potential terrorist with the potential to kill fewer Americans than our own Police? No, the public needs to know the kinds of things a government does in its name, or the "consent of the governed" is meaningless.

He was asked how many copies of the NSA documents he made, and "if anything happens to you, do they still exist?"

"All I can say right now is the US Government is not going to be able to cover this up by jailing or murdering me," Snowden wrote. "Truth is coming, and it cannot be stopped."

According to the U.K. newspaper, the hour-and-a-half live chat was subject to Snowden's "security concerns and also his access to a secure Internet connection." Snowden did not disclose his location.

Earlier this month, Snowden was interviewed by The Guardian's Glenn Greenwald in his hotel room in Hong Kong. After the paper revealed his identity (at his request), he reportedly checked out of the hotel, and went into hiding.

"I carefully evaluated every single document I disclosed to ensure that each was legitimately in the public interest," Snowden said in his original interview. "There are all sorts of documents that would have made a big impact that I didn't turn over, because harming people isn't my goal. Transparency is."

On Monday, Snowden was asked if he was "suggesting that Manning indiscriminately dumped secrets into the hands of Wikileaks" and intended to harm people.

"No, I'm not," Snowden responded. "Wikileaks is a legitimate journalistic outlet and they carefully redacted all of their releases in accordance with a judgment of public interest. The unredacted release of cables was due to the failure of a partner journalist to control a passphrase. However, I understand that many media outlets used the argument that 'documents were dumped' to smear Manning, and want to make it clear that it is not a valid assertion here."

He was asked to elaborate on how much "direct access" the NSA had to phone-call records, and if analysts could listen to content of domestic calls without a warrant.

"The reality is this: if an NSA, FBI, CIA, DIA, etc analyst has access to query raw SIGINT databases, they can enter and get results for anything they want. Phone number, email, user id, cell phone handset id (IMEI), and so on—it's all the same," Snowden replied. "The restrictions against this are policy based, not technically based, and can change at any time. Additionally, audits are cursory, incomplete, and easily fooled by fake justifications."

Under authorization of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), Snowden continued, "Americans’ communications are collected and viewed on a daily basis on the certification of an analyst rather than a warrant. They excuse this as 'incidental' collection, but at the end of the day, someone at NSA still has the content of your communications":

All of it. IPs, raw data, content, headers, attachments, everything. And it gets saved for a very long time—and can be extended further with waivers rather than warrants.

Snowden was also asked why he did not fly directly to Iceland, where he told The Guardian he would have preferred to seek asylum:

Leaving the US was an incredible risk, as NSA employees must declare their foreign travel 30 days in advance and are monitored. There was a distinct possibility I would be interdicted en route, so I had to travel with no advance booking to a country with the cultural and legal framework to allow me to work without being immediately detained. Hong Kong provided that. Iceland could be pushed harder, quicker, before the public could have a chance to make their feelings known, and I would not put that past the current US administration.

Snowden, who said he had not had contact with the Chinese scoffed at speculation that he would provide classified information to the Chinese or other governments in exchange for asylum.

"This is a predictable smear that I anticipated before going public, as the US media has a knee-jerk 'RED CHINA!' reaction to anything involving [Hong Kong] or the [People's Republic of China] and is intended to distract from the issue of US government misconduct," Snowden replied. "Ask yourself: if I were a Chinese spy, why wouldn't I have flown directly into Beijing? I could be living in a palace petting a phoenix by now."

He also responded to the argument, made by U.S. officials, that the NSA spy program has foiled dozens of terror plots:

Journalists should ask a specific question: since these programs began operation shortly after September 11th, how many terrorist attacks were prevented SOLELY by information derived from this suspicionless surveillance that could not be gained via any other source? Then ask how many individual communications were ingested to acheive that, and ask yourself if it was worth it. Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it.

Snowden thinks his revelation of the NSA spy program gives President Obama with "an opportunity to appeal for a return to sanity, constitutional policy, and the rule of law rather than men. He still has plenty of time to go down in history as the President who looked into the abyss and stepped back, rather than leaping forward into it."

Snowden added that he's become disillusioned with the public debate over his leak:

Initially I was very encouraged. Unfortunately, the mainstream media now seems far more interested in what I said when I was 17 or what my girlfriend looks like rather than, say, the largest program of suspicionless surveillance in human history.
 

walt willis

Senior Member
Messages
1,823
Ed is an American hero that may help bring about the needed change that obama was trying to sell us during his election bid.
 

Num7

Administrator
Staff
Messages
12,453
It's kind of disturbing to know that all communications are logged and monitored like that. Its definitely not surprising though. I think it's pretty obvious that they have the technology required to do that, and the motivations to actually do it, legitimate or not.
 

Naser

New Member
Messages
5
Ed is an American hero that may help bring about the needed change that obama was trying to sell us during his election bid.

I agree with you on that, he is a hero without doubt and the sacrifices he has made to make us more aware we will never understand. I hope people don't buy into this media bullshit of believing that he is actually a traitor. Really curious to also see if he releases more information disclosing what the US is really doing to verify our assumptions.
 

Samstwitch

Senior Member
Messages
5,111

Journalist (Greenwald): New NSA Bombshell On The Way

Obama going after Snowden “To Intimidate Future Whistle Blowers”

Steve Watson
Prisonplanet.com
July 2, 2013

Glenn Greenwald, the journalist who broke the Ed Snowden NSA revelations has urged Americans to brace for yet another bombshell story in the near future.

Appearing on Fox and Friends Tuesday, Greenwald told Eric Bolling that more revelations are forthcoming regarding “vast programs of both domestic and international spying that the world will be shocked to learn about that the NSA is engaged in without democratic accountability.”

“You’re going to have to wait along with everybody else until our stories are published,” Greenwald said. Although he did not provide an exact timeframe, Greenwald added “just wait a little bit and you’ll have it.”

The reporter also accused the President of making an example out of Snowden in order to deter potential future whistleblowers.

“I think what the Obama administration wants, and has been trying to establish for the last almost five years now with the unprecedented war on whistleblowers that it is waging, and to make it so that everybody is petrified of coming forward with information about what our political officials are doing in the dark that is deceitful, illegal or corrupt,” Greenwald said.

“They don’t care about Edward Snowden at this point. He can no longer do anything that he hasn’t already done. What they care about is making an extremely negative example out of him to intimidate future whistleblowers because they think they’ll end up like him.” the reporter added.

While revealing that he had not had contact with Snowden since he left Hong Kong, Greenwald insisted that the leaker was eager to remain part of the debate surrounding government surveillance.

“Obviously he wants to stay out of the clutches of the U.S. government given the way that they’ve persecuted whistleblowers. He’s obviously trying to find a place where he can do that but his real goal is to continue to try to be part of the conversation about why he did why he did, what it is that he saw in the NSA, how these spying powers were being abused and to continue to make people around the world and his fellow citizens aware of what his government is doing,” said Greenwald.

Addressing claims from other so called journalists that he should be prosecuted for his role in outing Snowden’s secrets, Greenwald cited Thomas Jefferson.

“Jefferson, 250 years ago, said those who most fear investigations are the ones who attack free press first,” Greenwald said. “This is what journalism is about, shining a light on what the most powerful people in the country are doing to them in the dark. So we’re going to continue to do that no matter what David Gregory and his friends say.”

According to the latest reports, Ed Snowden is still stuck in “no man’s land” as it were in Moscow. After applying to 21 countries for political asylum, only 11 remain possibilities, with Venezuela looking the most sympathetic to his plight.

“[Snowden] deserves the world’s protection.” Venezuela’s new president Máduro told Reuters during a visit to Moscow.

“We think this young person has done something very important for humanity, has done a favour to humanity, has spoken great truths to deconstruct a world that is controlled by an imperialist American elite.” Máduro added.
 

Samstwitch

Senior Member
Messages
5,111
Edward Snowden speaks out from Russia about puppet Media and 9/11.

Snowden: After 9/11, Media Abdicated Its Role as a Check to Power

Whistleblower slams establishment press

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
August 13, 2013

In a newly released interview with author and journalist Peter Maass, whistleblower Edward Snowden slams the establishment media as having dispensed with its function of acting as the Fourth Estate after 9/11.

The interview, which was conducted as an encrypted online question-and-answer session, was mediated by Laura Poitras, the documentary film maker who first interviewed Snowden along with Glenn Greenwald.

Maass asked Snowden why he approached Greenwald and Poitras with his revelations about the NSA’s spying programs instead of attempting to bring them to the attention of mainstream news outlets like the New York Times or the Washington Post.

“After 9/11, many of the most important news outlets in America abdicated their role as a check to power — the journalistic responsibility to challenge the excesses of government — for fear of being seen as unpatriotic and punished in the market during a period of heightened nationalism,” said Snowden. “From a business perspective, this was the obvious strategy, but what benefited the institutions ended up costing the public dearly. The major outlets are still only beginning to recover from this cold period.”

Snowden also shot out a warning to investigative journalists who do not encrypt their communications.

“I was surprised to realize that there were people in news organizations who didn’t recognize any unencrypted message sent over the Internet is being delivered to every intelligence service in the world. In the wake of this year’s disclosures, it should be clear that unencrypted journalist-source communication is unforgivably reckless.”
[I believe he's referring to Michael Hastings and other journalists who were assassinated.]

Snowden talks of his apprehension about being filmed by Poitras, and how the two interviewers thought the whistleblower “was younger than they expected.”

“I think we all knew there was no going back once she turned that camera on, and the ultimate outcome would be decided by the world,” concluded Snowden.
 

HDRKID

Senior Member
Messages
2,585
Truly, this is amazing. A man leaving america and going to russia for freedom. John Titor did warn us years ago. Right now we see civil rights erosion. Expect more incidents and less rights in coming years. Perhaps we can reverse our move. Sadly, we are moving into a repressive regime.

In California, you can always find party. In communist Яussia, Party can always find you. -- Yakov Smirnoff
 

Khaos

where the wild things are
Messages
1,101
“I was surprised to realize that there were people in news organizations who didn’t recognize any unencrypted message sent over the Internet is being delivered to every intelligence service in the world"

So every time I send an email, it goes to NSA, FBI, etc?

*sends some gay porn to himself*

^_^
 

Top