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<blockquote data-quote="Peregrini" data-source="post: 53775" data-attributes="member: 2670"><p>Peregrini said:</p><p>Please remember, this is a suggestion, not a requirement chiseled in stone. If an alleged time traveler doesn't want to take this test, that won't automatically refute their assertion. There are plenty of other ways to do that.</p><p></p><p> </p><p>I also said:</p><p>If anyone were to pass this test I would, pretty much, believe anything else they told me.</p><p>That means, if someone answered the equation correctly I would necessarily have to re-examine my "belief" that TT is not possible. Since, as of this time, there is no testable repeatable evidence that JT, or anyone else for that matter, did TT, I have no reason to re-examine my beliefs just yet. Just because "you" say it's so, doesn't make it so.</p><p> </p><p>Perhaps you might answer a question for me. Do you believe a man can hold his breath for 1 day, underwater, with no additional supply of oxygen? I'm going to step ahead here and go out on a limb and answer "No" for you. Do you then believe you could invent a test for someone claiming they could, to attempt to prove it?</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>173... Just a guess...even earlier people didn't think a man could survive a speeds above 25 mph.</p><p></p><p> </p><p>OH OH, I know this one... According to Al Gore...all of them.</p><p></p><p> </p><p>No, it isn't.</p><p></p><p> </p><p>No, it doesn't.</p><p>That is why experiments are devised to attempt to falsify a theory. Scientists conduct experiments in an attempt to replicate the results that led to a theory. If they are unable to replicate the earlier results, the theory is either discounted and rejected, or placed on the back burner for further study when more information is discovered. Can you say FTL Neutrino?</p><p>It is unfortunate that today's scientific community has changed from the past.</p><p>It used to be;</p><p>Observation...devise a hypothesis to explain the observation... test the hypothesis by experiments designed to falsify the hypothesis...after many tests the hypothesis graduates to a theory...After many years of testing with no falsifying results a Law is discovered.</p><p>Now, all too often, it's;</p><p>Speculate...put your speculation forward as a new theory and challenge others to accept it.</p><p>Your link, <a href="http://phys.org/news/2010-12-scientists-evidence-universes.html" target="_blank">Scientists find first evidence that many universes exist</a>, is an example of how the scientific method is supposed to be carried out. Something you have absolutely no understanding of. Did you actually "read" it? What you have used to support your statement of fact</p><p></p><p>is an idea by a group of scientists, based on observations, who stated, "The researchers emphasize that more work is needed to confirm this claim,"</p><p> </p><p></p><p>The Second Law of Thermodynamics. Maybe you can notice this one has the word "Law" in it. Not theory like your evidence does.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>I invite you to, please, enlighten me with the reasoning in your following statement;</p><p></p><p>I would really like to have it explained to me.</p><p> </p><p>Ps. I wonder if you can see the further implications of the discoveries discussed in your link. I noticed it immediately.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Peregrini, post: 53775, member: 2670"] Peregrini said: Please remember, this is a suggestion, not a requirement chiseled in stone. If an alleged time traveler doesn't want to take this test, that won't automatically refute their assertion. There are plenty of other ways to do that. I also said: If anyone were to pass this test I would, pretty much, believe anything else they told me. That means, if someone answered the equation correctly I would necessarily have to re-examine my "belief" that TT is not possible. Since, as of this time, there is no testable repeatable evidence that JT, or anyone else for that matter, did TT, I have no reason to re-examine my beliefs just yet. Just because "you" say it's so, doesn't make it so. Perhaps you might answer a question for me. Do you believe a man can hold his breath for 1 day, underwater, with no additional supply of oxygen? I'm going to step ahead here and go out on a limb and answer "No" for you. Do you then believe you could invent a test for someone claiming they could, to attempt to prove it? 173... Just a guess...even earlier people didn't think a man could survive a speeds above 25 mph. OH OH, I know this one... According to Al Gore...all of them. No, it isn't. No, it doesn't. That is why experiments are devised to attempt to falsify a theory. Scientists conduct experiments in an attempt to replicate the results that led to a theory. If they are unable to replicate the earlier results, the theory is either discounted and rejected, or placed on the back burner for further study when more information is discovered. Can you say FTL Neutrino? It is unfortunate that today's scientific community has changed from the past. It used to be; Observation...devise a hypothesis to explain the observation... test the hypothesis by experiments designed to falsify the hypothesis...after many tests the hypothesis graduates to a theory...After many years of testing with no falsifying results a Law is discovered. Now, all too often, it's; Speculate...put your speculation forward as a new theory and challenge others to accept it. Your link, [url="http://phys.org/news/2010-12-scientists-evidence-universes.html"]Scientists find first evidence that many universes exist[/url], is an example of how the scientific method is supposed to be carried out. Something you have absolutely no understanding of. Did you actually "read" it? What you have used to support your statement of fact is an idea by a group of scientists, based on observations, who stated, "The researchers emphasize that more work is needed to confirm this claim," The Second Law of Thermodynamics. Maybe you can notice this one has the word "Law" in it. Not theory like your evidence does. I invite you to, please, enlighten me with the reasoning in your following statement; I would really like to have it explained to me. Ps. I wonder if you can see the further implications of the discoveries discussed in your link. I noticed it immediately. [/QUOTE]
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