Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine – Who Benefits the Most?

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The atrocities that are happening in Ukraine are nothing short of stomach-turning sickening. Throw in the finger wagging of the international community while it continues to purchase Russian oil and it gets even more disturbing. But you already knew all that. Common Sense Conspiracy is here to make you think about what is not obvious from your gas pump or the local news. So without further ado, let’s take a look at the Russian invasion of Ukraine with our patented common sense approach.

Ukraine, Ukraine — Where Did I Hear That Before?​


If you are thinking that there was a time that Ukraine didn’t dominate American headlines, well, you’d be right about that. Ukraine was of little to no significance for a really long time, until a fellow named Donald Trump called the President of Ukraine (yes, that same Zelensky guy) and asked him to step up an investigation into an American citizen that had been involved in some interesting business dealings in Ukraine. That phone call got Donald Trump impeached. However, it also set us on this weird course for Ukraine to dominate everything.

See, what no one talks about right now is who benefits the most if Zelensky doesn’t survive the Russian invasion. It’s not Putin. Zelensky would become a martyr and probably just inspire more resistance. Who else could it be?

Look no further than the American President. That’s right. Joe Biden and his son Hunter have certainly noticed that this is an unbelievably fortuitous series of events for their family and his presidency. After all, Zelensky is one of just a handful of people in this world alive right now that knows exactly what Hunter and the Biden clan were really up to in Ukraine. And there’s an excellent chance that his time alive could be in serious jeopardy.

Is Putin a Genius?​


Donald Trump called Putin a genius on a conservative talk show that has many in America questioning his mental capacity as well as his motives. Is Putin that smart? Hard to say. One thing is for sure. He has spent the last decade or more building a war chest to the tune of the hundreds of billions. Sanctions are more symbolic than anything. Yes, the Russian people will suffer, and in some cases, the American people will suffer. Putin, not so much. He didn’t dream up this plan last month. He has built up the capability to what he is doing, and he seems to be all-in Texas Hold’em style. Meaning no turning back.

Did Putin realize the Zelensky-Biden connection? Almost 100% chance yes. He knew that Biden would want to stay as standoffish as he possibly could. After all, Russian forces rolling into Kyiv and killing Zelensky is like a political jackpot. Nothing eliminates your problem quite like, well, eliminating your problem.

Grand Conspiracy? Great Timing?​

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This photo is what it will look like right after the Bidens find out that Zelensky is dead.

The answer probably lies somewhere in between. If you are asking if we think that Joe Biden orchestrated this all somehow to save his own presidency and his son… the answer is no. He’s not that smart, nor does he have the gift of that kind of foresight. Does he realize right now that Zelensky dying would be a huge win for him and his family? Almost definitely, and that’s even if someone else had to point it out to him.

So, with the rest of the international community sans China and North Korea behind him, Joe will wag his finger, pass meaningless sanctions that hurt all the wrong people, and quite possibly enter the United States into some terrible deals with other major oil producing nations that are just as questionable as the Putin regime. What he won’t do right now is commit to a wider effort to stop the atrocities in Ukraine. Why? Well, it would be a lot cooler if we could just wait until Zelensky goes down first.

Is Zelensky now just a pawn? Should Putin try to capture him? Does the United States really even want him to survive? We would like to hear your thoughts in the comments below.

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A former NATO commander says Russian President Vladimir Putin 'may be the best thing that ever happened to the NATO alliance'

James Stavridis, a former NATO supreme allied commander, said on Sunday that President Vladimir Putin "may be the best thing that ever happened" to NATO, explaining that the Russian leader's invasion of Ukraine had prompted the West to bolster its defenses.

In an interview with MSNBC's Jonathan Capehart, Stavridis, who served as a NATO commander from 2009 to 2013, cited Germany's boost in defense spending, announced days after Putin declared an assault on Ukraine.

"I spent four years as supreme allied commander of NATO. At every conference, every meeting of high-level NATO officials, I would find my way to Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany and the minister of defense, Ursula von der Leyen," Stavridis said. "And I would say to them, 'You've got to raise your defense spending.' And I got nowhere in four years.

"In 48 hours, Vladimir Putin has inspired the Germans to effectively nearly double their defense budget — a smart move on the part of Germans," Stavridis continued.

"Vladimir Putin may be the best thing that ever happened to the NATO alliance," he told Capehart.

Germany, Europe's largest economy, announced on February 27 that it would create a special one-off fund of 100 billion euros for military spending. Chancellor Olaf Scholz also said the country's year-on-year defense budget moving forward would be more than 2% of its GDP, reversing a recent decline in military spending.

Scholz said the extra funds were to bolster Germany's own security and to fulfill its NATO obligations.
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The New York Times

Hate for Putin's Russia Consumes Ukraine​


LVIV, Ukraine — Trapped in his apartment on the outskirts of Kyiv during fierce battles over the weekend, the well-known Ukrainian poet Oleksandr Irvanets composed a few lines that encapsulated the national mood.

“I shout out to the whole world,” he wrote in a short poem published online by his fans, who have since lost touch with the writer and were worried that he may have fallen behind Russian lines. “I won’t forgive anyone!”

If there is one overriding emotion gripping Ukraine right now, it is hate.

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It is a deep, seething bitterness for President Vladimir Putin, his military and his government. But Ukrainians are not giving a pass to ordinary Russians, either, calling them complicit through years of political passivity. The hatred is vented by mothers in bomb shelters, by volunteers preparing to fight on the front lines, by intellectuals and by artists.

The emotion is so powerful it could not be assuaged even by an Orthodox religious holiday on Sunday intended to foster forgiveness before Lent. Called Forgiveness Sunday, the holiday is recognized in both the Russian and Ukrainian Orthodox churches.

And this hatred has overwhelmed the close personal ties between two Slavic nations, where many people have family living in both countries.

Billboards have gone up along roadsides in gigantic block letters, telling Russians in profanity-laced language to get out. Social media posts in spaces often shared by Russians and Ukrainians have been awash in furious comments.

Some Ukrainians have posted pictures of people killed in the military assault in Russian chat rooms on the Telegram app. They have vented by writing on the reviews pages for websites of Moscow restaurants.

And they have been mocking Russians in scathing terms for complaining about hardships with banking transactions or the collapsing ruble currency because of international sanctions.

“Damn, what’s wrong with Apple Pay?” Stanislav Bobrytsky, a Ukrainian computer programmer also trapped in the fighting around the capital, Kyiv, wrote sarcastically about how Russians are responding to the war. “I cannot pay for a latte in my favorite coffee shop.”

Putin is the target of much of the Ukrainians’ unbridled resentment.

The authoritarian leader is to blame, almost all Ukrainians agree. But the frustration is also directed more broadly at Russian society.

Many Ukrainians chastise Russians for increasingly accepting middle-class comforts afforded by the country’s oil wealth in exchange for declining to resist limits on their freedoms. They blame millions of Russians, who Ukrainians say gave up on the post-Soviet dreams of freedom and openness to the West, for enabling the war.

“Are your iPhones all right?” another Ukrainian writer, Andriy Bondar, asked Russians on his Facebook page, after a thinly attended anti-war rally in Moscow that was broken up by the riot police. “We are very worried about you. It’s so cruel they use rubber sticks, those terrible riot police.”

President Volodymyr Zelenskyy of Ukraine also appealed to Russians on Sunday to protest for their own sakes as much as for the Ukrainians.

“Don’t miss this opportunity,” he said in comments directed at Russians.

“Citizens of Russia, for you this is a struggle not only for peace in Ukraine, it is a struggle for your country, for the best that was in it, for the freedom that you saw, for the prosperity that you felt,” he added. “If you keep silent now, then only your poverty will speak for you later, and only repression will answer. Do not be silent!”

Zelenskyy did not hold back on how he felt about the Russian military.

“We will not forgive the shooting of unarmed people,” he said.

There were virtually no anti-war protests in Russia before the conflict began, though small demonstrations have been staged in recent days. Most participants were arrested.

Yuri Makarov, the chief editor of the Ukrainian national broadcasting company and the head of a national literature and arts award committee, said the war had driven a deep wedge between the Ukrainian and Russian societies that will be hard to heal. Russians, he said, have become Ukrainians’ “collective enemies.”

Some modicum of popular support is enabling the fighting, he said.

“The orders to shell the residential areas of Mariupol, Kharkiv and Zhytomyr were given by specific colonels, captains and junior lieutenants, not by Putin or Shoigu,” he said, referring to the Russian president and his minister of defense, Sergei K. Shoigu. “It is their choice and their responsibility,” he added.

“As for the Russians, I am not interested in their motivation now. They, with the exception of a few, were quite comfortable being in a full dictatorship,” he added.

Olha Koba, a psychologist in Kyiv, said that “anger and hate in this situation is a normal reaction and important to validate.” But it is important to channel it into something useful, she said, such as making incendiary bombs out of empty bottles.

“When people are happy about the death of Russian soldiers, it is explicable” she said. “There is a subconscious understanding that this soldier will no longer be able to kill their loved ones.”

Irvanets, the poet who sent his bitter composition to friends over the weekend, wrote that he had composed the lines in “a city shattered by missiles,” and he referenced the upcoming holiday on Sunday.

But by Forgiveness Sunday, his fans were writing on social media that he had not been in contact and they were concerned that something had happened to him.

“I will never forgive Russia,” the poet wrote.
 

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The west has been waiting to set a trap, so far Putin has entered to a degree. If a few other comrades arrive there will be cause for a wider skirmish.

Look at it from another angle hardly anything is said about Yemen/Myanmar. When the West lies for its own benefit its kept real quiet.

I wonder when the lies of this Ukrainian comedian will be borne out.

A tool of the West.
 

Witch Hunt

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The west has been waiting to set a trap, so far Putin has entered to a degree. If a few other comrades arrive there will be cause for a wider skirmish.

Look at it from another angle hardly anything is said about Yemen/Myanmar. When the West lies for its own benefit its kept real quiet.

I wonder when the lies of this Ukrainian comedian will be borne out.

A tool of the West.
This conflict has some of the most obvious propaganda I have ever seen.And it's not even two weeks old!
 

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