What Evidence Do You Need?

[AAA]

No, what would prove it would be to take a picture of the front cover and back cover of tomorrows newspaper and say what the first story inside the newspaper will be.

Consider giving someone tomorrow's newspaper. It is loaded with information. It is only proof once the events and circumstances unfold, otherwise it is just ink and paper. That is to say that the actual value of it is being able to witness proof of information traveling backward 1 day.

The proof of it is limited to witnesses of the newspaper relative to the events and circumstances within a 24 hour period. And once tomorrow's newspaper is released, your 'pre-paper' is no longer proof of anything, but rather merely another newspaper.

Even if you went to the printing presses and editor of the newspaper and showed it to them before they could produce tomorrow's newspaper, it is still limited to witnesses working to make the newspaper. They could shut down their operation to show that they haven't yet produced it, that they stopped mid-operation with half the stories, but it is still open to a lot of questions regarding authenticity. It becomes a matter of who can not only witness the newspaper and all events of a day ahead, but also all who can witness the presses and events and circumstances thereof. Doing as such could effect things like causing tomorrow's newspaper to never get printed, which gets into paradoxical issues and multiple worldlines.

It basically amounts to how many people could be witness before the next day when tomorrow's edition is released. If you released it globally, if it went instantly viral to the whole world before the next day, it would change the events and thus create all sorts of other paradoxical issues.

There is a theory floating around some intellectual circles that the timeline will correct itself as to not allow paradoxes, or that there is only so much deviation that the timeline will allow.

It gets complicated.

 

[Num7]

AAA makes a good point. A time travel proof won't remain a reliable proof indefinitely. It will last for shove time, until it's no longer valid.

For instance, tomorrow's newspaper is no longer as convincing after a while, because you kinda had to be there and then in order to truly exclusive the evidence.

Good call.

 

[PaulaJedi]

I would suggest the major newspaper headlines for the next three days.

We can't guarantee they'd be EXACT, though. Minor changes. Different timelines. You know the drill.

 

[AAA]

AAA makes a good point. A time travel proof won't remain a reliable proof indefinitely. It will last for shove time, until it's no longer valid.

For instance, tomorrow's newspaper is no longer as convincing after a while, because you kinda had to be there and then in order to truly exclusive the evidence.

Good call.

There is quite a bit more to consider, actually. In addition to the concept of perspective in having to personally witness the whole chain of events and circumstances, as well as considering that it can be a limited time offer of proof, there are also things such as the difference between a static or permanent piece/set of information, a fleeting or temporary/limited one, and something of a strictly personal nature that only the recipient would understand or using any combination thereof. Then factor any one or any combination of widely varying methods or mediums of communication and/or encryption, the way it applies to the cause/effect of events and circumstances of the time line, risk assessment, the form means and methods of time travel and parameters limitations restrictions and freedoms thereof, relevant goals and ethical principles and values, just to name a few, ..etc., etc., etc., ... ... ...

You'll rack your brain sorting it all out. Here is a good example thought exercise;

Imagine the task of writing a letter to your younger self. How many ways are there to cram information into a page or two of a letter? How would you authenticate it to yourself that you are indeed the one writing it? What would the goal of whatever messages be? How many ways can you play with that?

You could do things like hand write it and use your favorite type of pen and stationary, use key words clips and phrases, put your fingerprints all over it, and basically make it layered with recognizable things that are characteristic of yourself. You know you.

You could also include a pattered series of ambiguous or vague references to something that only you would know, like a strange dream or some obscure reoccurring thought or event or reference that you don't talk about. This isolates it to your thoughts, thus a reassurance of security and authentication.

You could suspend a message hidden within by doing the same cryptic reference thing with a series of events that have not yet occurred at the time you are reading the letter. You could essentially guide your younger self to the point in time when you are writing the letter.

You could also include multiple layers of varying encryption techniques within the text. ...not to mention whatever it is you're saying at face value.

It is all ultimately information traveling through time. How many ways are there to play with that and what is there to consider in doing so?

 

[AAA]

More thought exercise; ...If you were to somehow incorporate a sentence that reads "Bricks don't lay eggs in the snow storm." into a letter to yourself.

A year later, you are covering something with a tarp because there is freezing rain and several inches of snow coming to your neighborhood. You grab a couple of bricks to weigh the tarp down and notice there is an egg of some kind underneath one of them, a turtle or lizard nest left from the summer that didn't hatch or something.

It is an obscure and unlikely set of circumstances as a point of reference to let you know it came from yourself. You remember the day and approximate time and circumstances when writing the letter, but from the perspective of your younger self, it didn't make sense until it actually happened. If no one was around to observe the event, and you do not talk about it, you know by deductive reasoning that it had to come from yourself, from your future memory.

If someone reads the letter, they have no clue what it means. Someone can run it through the most sophisticated AI programs and decoding software available and they will get nothing.

Now consider how or if you can prove it to someone else? If you explained it to them and showed them the letter, the brick, the nest with a brick imprint on the ground and everything necessary to 'get it', would they?

You would have to prove that you wrote the letter at a future point in time, and every ambiguous or vague or nonsensical reference having meaning and relevance. From a personal perspective of watching it all happen on a time line you know it is real. But trying to get someone to see it from your perspective enough to satisfy them with proof could be difficult or impossible.

Could you also include a reference or metaphor for what the person you were trying to convince was doing that day? From the future you perspective, you remember trying to convince someone, so you know to leave something for them too.

 

[Einstein]

AAA

If you would be so kind as to explain the laser picture John left us.

Thanks.

 

[AAA]

AAA

If you would be so kind as to explain the laser picture John left us.

Thanks.

I have never viewed it. Can you please post it here?

Where/when/how did it originate?

Thanks.

 

[Tron1]

time travel wouldnt be like you would imagine it, you only gain information by searching for it, even if you find it what would you do with it? I have seen some terrible stuff but i don't brag about it. whether its a good timeline bad timeline multiple universe's or altogether one straight line future which i believe is where we are going. we cannot stop it. idiots want to ruin our world? Why?

 

[AAA]

time travel wouldnt be like you would imagine it

What is time travel? What form or function are we defining?

Is it physical like in the movies where you teleport to another time or dimension? Is it through a wormhole or window?

Is it physical time travel that will kill carbon based organisms, but will allow objects? How would you calculate to pinpoint where and when to send something? What to send and what to do with it?

Is it a means of technological astral projection that functions like a crystal ball or magic cauldron? ...a helmet? HDR? ..like the movie "Deja Vu"?

Is it something more metaphysical that allows you do tune into another person's brainwaves and communicate telepathically across time?

Is it some kind of signal or pulse that can be transmitted similar to sonar, radar, or radios? Could you send a Morse code message to Tesla through radio static?

How does it work?

 

[Einstein]

AAA

If you would be so kind as to explain the laser picture John left us.

Thanks.

I have never viewed it. Can you please post it here?

Where/when/how did it originate?

Thanks.

Here's the laser photo. Given to Pamela by John Titor. Pamela scanned them to digital format and posted them.