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<blockquote data-quote="Carl Miller" data-source="post: 81054" data-attributes="member: 4986"><p><strong>The Shaman character kinda priest is believed to have magical powers, he is also the medicine man known to be and expert on medical plants-that would pick out a specific root of leaf or stem handling them carefully in order to treat any kind of disease. </strong></p><p><strong>Responsible for keeping contact with the world of the gods, spirits and demons who would answer and made their feelings known only to the shamans. This is how they've been so revered, so respected, so held in the greatest regard by the tribal society. </strong></p><p><strong>On particular occasions the tribe would join together in a clearing by a forest or in the middle of one-and songs all chorused the praise of Gods, choreographed dance, beats of drums the shaman would fall into a trance unaware of anything around him, he would be communicating with the gods and spirits, he would come back soon with a particular answer to a specif problem. </strong></p><p><strong>Here once again we can see basic similarities of methodology between the so called 'tribal societies' and our supposed 'civilized one'-one can see there are some obvious parallels between the two cases and the most important one is the fixed pattern of repetition-of chanting mantras, step to take, the ceremonial, the repetitive rites-(most redundant to say that) -it often happens in any one of our churches and temple as well as in the forests like 'savages' usually do.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong><strong>Castaneda's experience on the peyote as it is described in his books-a sort of a diary in which he would keep an investigative scientific subjective account of his experiments using a spineless cactus native to southwestern Texas and through Mexico-the mescaline. It is used world wide as a supplement to various transcendence practices, including meditation and psychedelic psychotherapy. Peyote has a long history of ritualistic and medicinal use by indigenous Americans and used by Don Juan Carlos' counsellor, teacher and guide into a new world Carlos wished to set out in order to investigate through his own experience into the mysteries of the mind, on how a western mind would function under a more broadminded view of the world provided by the influence of the mescaline. </strong></strong></p><p><strong><strong>Though it's been a subjective experience it was clear to the reader the brain would responded in similarly in a fixed pattern to either the mind of the indians and that of any western civilized one . It makes me wonder how one often boasts to be more creative, more intelligent than the 'savages' and how one still cannot realize one had just had one's 'civilized' mind painted in the lacquer of civilization but making use of the same methods the 'savages' did. The apparent differences relying on the fact that we have learned to be more subtle and hypocritical in our judgements, more sophisticated in disguising our emotions. The lymbic part of the brain being equal to our ancestors. </strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>_________________</strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Carl Miller, post: 81054, member: 4986"] [B]The Shaman character kinda priest is believed to have magical powers, he is also the medicine man known to be and expert on medical plants-that would pick out a specific root of leaf or stem handling them carefully in order to treat any kind of disease. Responsible for keeping contact with the world of the gods, spirits and demons who would answer and made their feelings known only to the shamans. This is how they've been so revered, so respected, so held in the greatest regard by the tribal society. On particular occasions the tribe would join together in a clearing by a forest or in the middle of one-and songs all chorused the praise of Gods, choreographed dance, beats of drums the shaman would fall into a trance unaware of anything around him, he would be communicating with the gods and spirits, he would come back soon with a particular answer to a specif problem. Here once again we can see basic similarities of methodology between the so called 'tribal societies' and our supposed 'civilized one'-one can see there are some obvious parallels between the two cases and the most important one is the fixed pattern of repetition-of chanting mantras, step to take, the ceremonial, the repetitive rites-(most redundant to say that) -it often happens in any one of our churches and temple as well as in the forests like 'savages' usually do. [B]Castaneda's experience on the peyote as it is described in his books-a sort of a diary in which he would keep an investigative scientific subjective account of his experiments using a spineless cactus native to southwestern Texas and through Mexico-the mescaline. It is used world wide as a supplement to various transcendence practices, including meditation and psychedelic psychotherapy. Peyote has a long history of ritualistic and medicinal use by indigenous Americans and used by Don Juan Carlos' counsellor, teacher and guide into a new world Carlos wished to set out in order to investigate through his own experience into the mysteries of the mind, on how a western mind would function under a more broadminded view of the world provided by the influence of the mescaline. Though it's been a subjective experience it was clear to the reader the brain would responded in similarly in a fixed pattern to either the mind of the indians and that of any western civilized one . It makes me wonder how one often boasts to be more creative, more intelligent than the 'savages' and how one still cannot realize one had just had one's 'civilized' mind painted in the lacquer of civilization but making use of the same methods the 'savages' did. The apparent differences relying on the fact that we have learned to be more subtle and hypocritical in our judgements, more sophisticated in disguising our emotions. The lymbic part of the brain being equal to our ancestors. [/B] _________________[/B] [/QUOTE]
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