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Astral plane experience

Discussion in 'Psychic Ability and Powers of the Mind' started by EachPeachPearPlum, May 28, 2008.

  1. EachPeachPearPlum

    EachPeachPearPlum Junior Member

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    Astral plane experience

    What is the general consensus amongst everyone about Astral Projection? Has anyone; besides myself, attempted and suceeded?-Or at least, been on the verge of suceeding?
     
  2. Num7

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    I think it exists, and that some people here probably acheived it.
    I would be interested to ear some experiences here also :)
    Please, don't tell us you're going to buy an HDR ok ?

    I never seriously attempted AP, so, never succeded.

    Cheers, and by the way, welcome EachPeachPearPlum, glad to see you start some new threads !

    Num7
     
  3. EachPeachPearPlum

    EachPeachPearPlum Junior Member

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    Well, I think this place is in need of certain threads that it currently lacks.

    Oh, thank you very much for the welcome. Everyone has been so kind.

    Have you tried to AP Num7?

    Rare, though it may be, I suceeded on my first atempt, and if I recall it only took 20 minutes or so to induce. It was extremely frightening for me. All of the "guidebooks" I read before hand told me to expect to not sucessfully get anywhere near the experience of Projection, yet, there I was perceiving my "astral body" and going through all the sensations. But, as I got deeper into the experience I became uncomposed. Noises began to sound and inundated me. My sense of location was completely disoriented, and all the sounds merged together and had no depth or distance-only immediate "nows" which just continued to barrage me. I then could distinguish certain voices, and figures in my room as I continued to fall deeper, and I found that I was too unprepared to want to go further. So, I frantically tried to exit this deep place of thought in my mind, and come back to my physical body.
    Naturally, I ran out of my room.

    In the days following I had moments of hallucination where everything was spinning and bursts of multi-colored light would just serge in my room. I'm not sure if they were connected but it was troubling.

    I have not tried to Astral Project since because I have not been ready, but I plan on attempting within the next week or so, whenever I have had enough rest and have enough time to do so.

    PS: What's a HDR? :)

    Alexandra
     
  4. kcwildman

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    have heard bout it for some time now, but never tried to do it. is this what that guy Edd Dames do on the radio with coast-tocoast????
    what makes this diffrent from a prophet of GOD seeing a vision????
    or a luessid dream state???
    guess I need to read some on it
     
  5. EachPeachPearPlum

    EachPeachPearPlum Junior Member

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    LOL, it's funny that you should mention Coast-to-Coast, I thought only weirdos like my brother knew about that...Not that I'm saying you're weird, I just mean that I didn't think anyone besides my brother listened to that thing :).

    Lucid dreaming is when you are in the dream-like state but are aware that you are in a realm of subconscious control, and act accordingly to your thoughts regarding actions and what happens in the dream.
    For instance, say that last night I fell asleep and dreamt a wonderful dream...it involved a rainbow, snow, and lint rollers. Suddenly, I then became aware that this was a dream, that this is my dream, and I then decided I would take control of the dream, so for the heck of it I grabbed a lint roller and pressed it against the snow so that the snow would then be made into balls of rolled snow on a wooden floor. I know it wasn't a great example, but it's all I could think of. So in short, a lucid dream is a dream where we consciously take control. I'm sure you've experienced it before; I think everyone has.

    Having that said, I don't think that what you are trying to describe is lucid dreaming. Thats actually called "Remote Viewing" and it involves being able to concentrate on a specific detail and a reciprocation of perceiving it occur in real-time, and to have it happen sometime in the future. I don't doubt that some people can do this, but I do think it is uncommon and it takes a certain type of character to be able to do it.
    Being a "Prophet of God" is a label and depends on the declaration that the person through which these things are communicated gives to themself. Self-importance and arrogance really comes into play there.
     
  6. Num7

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    Well, if lucid dream is the way you just explained it, yeah, it happens to me sometimes. As you might guess, I only "take control" of these stupid dreams that have no sense at all, like the rainbow and snow exemple you gave us. In fact, I can't decide to take control, it just happens randomly you know. Taking control is pretty entertaining. In a certain way, it's almost like a movie, you have no limits.

    It's interesting, it'll sound stupid, but I didn't know that lucid dream was actually that. I was thinking that it was more like meditation, relaxing, then getting visions, and controling them. Yeah, that's it, I was thinking that lucid dreams was the same thing as astral projections.

    HDR is made by steven gibbs, is a device to make astral time travel.
    It's not serious, it tends to be a fraud. They have a pretty big fan club.
    www.fluxcap.com
    www.hdrkid.com

    Cheers ! :)

    Num7
     
  7. Chip Lewis

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    Coast to Coast has on average 4 to 7 million listeners. FYI
     
  8. EachPeachPearPlum

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    Thats extremely interesting....who would have guessed.
    I like paranormal topics but that radio show is completely unrealistic and only entertaining for humourous purposes, however, that is only my opinion and I'm sure it has many avid fans :).
     
  9. kcwildman

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    ok so if I understand you all, this is just a new name for transindental medtitation, go anywhere, do anything, and never leave the couch.????
    do you have a spirit guide to help you find your way???
    the guru's use to say, back in the day, if you didn't have a good guide you could have a real bad trip,maybe even be damaged somehow.
    I thought it to be hogwash and bolderdash back then. the sponsers could never prove any of there clames of what they had seen, or what was to come. :confused:
     
  10. Num7

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    Spirit guide ? Nope, I'm going solo !

    I maybe heard of that spirit guide before, not sure.
    Some say they become in contact with dead people when doing astral travel.

    Num7
     
  11. EachPeachPearPlum

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    In religious contexts where you go into deep meditation, catholic monks and buddhist monks for instance, a teacher is always there to instruct you. The subconscious is a place of unknowing and it's not a place you show delve into alone. These people don't meditate for leisure, they do it for the ultimate goal of syncing in accord with the larger piece they are a fragment of. Most people never venture beyond the ego, so it's a special place for a certain type of person.
    This also goes back to mythology: The hero always has a spirit guide with whom they undergo the process of being a self-servicing individual to the individual whom serves society. But thats a completely different topic and has many branch-offs (ex: Virgil is Dante's spirit guide in the Inferno and Tiresias guides Odysseus to find a way back).
    Astral projection is only considered one level above that of the physical plane (7 planes in total), and is relatively easy to get to without a guide, or deep knowledge. It is the levels thereafter that take perseverance, knowledge, and an understanding.
    I can't really speak about it since I have no experience there, but it has been claimed by people deep into seeking transcendance.
    As for the experience of creating whatever you wish in AP thats not exactly true. Your mind has to be severely trained if you wish to do that, as it takes a lot of concentration and details. It's a construct of the mind and one discrepancy in an imagined scenario could lead to the facade breaking and you once again just perceiving the place in which you started.
    I'm not sure if I can do this but...here is a really great link addressing Astral Projection at length!: Treatise On Astral Projection
     
  12. kcwildman

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    sounds a lot like the T.M. of the old days :confused:
    so the same question comes up to me again
    what is to be gained or of what real value is it to do this
    is it for insight into the future, to understand the presant, to become one with the universe, to seek out the inner self :confused:
     
  13. Num7

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    I my opinion, it could be use for all what you said. I don't think someone could use it for he's personal benifit, like to win to lotto. I once read that some tried, and they never got all of the numbers. Stuff like that doesn't work it seems.
     
  14. kcwildman

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    so it realy don't work, or you could see the future regardless of the content. or you could see the other side of the world with clearity.
    has anyone had any real proveable results??? I am very doubtfull
     
  15. Num7

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    If you see something in the dream you're controling, what tells you that it's actually the future, the past, or anything uh ?
    You're traveling in your mind, in your imagination.
    In you're dream, where are you, when are you ?
    You can't actually know it. You can decide when you are, but this moment is still in the dream.

    The question I'm asking is this one: When your mind is in that said dream, where and when is your mind ? Where and when is that dream ? Is your mind in the past/future, is it in another dimension, like all the HDRkid stuff ?

    Num7
     
  16. kcwildman

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    well I believe that we are in a universe we can't see for the most part
    and there are things out there we can't even begin to dream up
    so I would have to say this A.P. stuff has some place in our world we just don't know how to access that part of our mind to take us there
    as for the time we are in when we dream, it is always the same. we are in the now, and we are here. all ells is here with us in the now too though we just don't know how to get there from here.
     
  17. Num7

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    Dreams could be stuff hapenning in other dimensions.

    Sometimes, dreams are so similar to real life, except for some little details. This difference is the same that the difference we could see between our reality, and an alternate reality.
     
  18. kcwildman

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    oh man why'ed you have to go and bring up the multi-verse. that stuff makes my head hurt, just to think about all the diffrant possabilitys. it also is a demon when its gone. the thoughts will haunt you for months.
    what if, is a hard place to live. its most rewarding when you have a breakthrough, but its a nightmare when you see what could/might have been.
     
  19. Num7

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    Yeah, everything is possible in the multiverse.
    When you dream, your soul's frequency could change, then, moving it temporarily to another dimension.
     
  20. kcwildman

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    never thought about it like that.
    never considered what my soul was doing when I am asleep.
    very interesting
     

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