Gold tool discovered in Jerusalem cemetery leaves archaeologists stumped

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I would love to hold this thing in my hands, to get a much closer look.
I work with metals..this thing looks like it has been perfectly machined,
great symmetry.

I blew up the photo and studied it as best as I could.

The wearing towards the middle of the 'ribs'
makes me think along the lines of what Paula said....only,
this 'roller' was not meant for cookies but for something else.

Hmm...
Why all the wearing on the mid center and not the other 'ribs' ??

It's obviously a 'rolling device' of a sort (??)
but, for what??

And at 8.5 kg (18.7 lbs.)
it's quite heavy for it's size.


Well done NUM7!
Thank you for posting this.
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How about a pasta making tool? Pure gold isn't supposed to tarnish. Nowadays we might use stainless steel instead.
 

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How about a pasta making tool? Pure gold isn't supposed to tarnish. Nowadays we might use stainless steel instead.

You know? I had thought of that too! lol.

You could be right....

I just took a laptop (my friend's computer) and blew up the image to 400%.
There is that curious discolorization of the gold in the center.

But as you said, gold doesn't tarnish.

Curious wouldn't you say?
 

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How about a pasta making tool? Pure gold isn't supposed to tarnish. Nowadays we might use stainless steel instead.

You know? I had thought of that too! lol.

You could be right....

I just took a laptop (my friend's computer) and blew up the image to 400%.
There is that curious discolorization of the gold in the center.

But as you said, gold doesn't tarnish.

Curious wouldn't you say?

The discoloration does look that part of the object has been in contact with something that would roughen up its polished appearance. So perhaps rolling it on a table has scuffed it up a bit. And only pure gold is claimed not to tarnish.
 

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How about a pasta making tool? Pure gold isn't supposed to tarnish. Nowadays we might use stainless steel instead.

You know? I had thought of that too! lol.

You could be right....

I just took a laptop (my friend's computer) and blew up the image to 400%.
There is that curious discolorization of the gold in the center.

But as you said, gold doesn't tarnish.

Curious wouldn't you say?

The discoloration does look that part of the object has been in contact with something that would roughen up its polished appearance. So perhaps rolling it on a table has scuffed it up a bit. And only pure gold is claimed not to tarnish.


Exactly.

From what I see, I am doubting that it is pure gold just from the discolorization alone
but...(What am I missing here..) something I read..somewhere...too long ago about certain
perfumes and their chemical make up could cause even the purest combination of gold
above 18 karat and better, tarnish/discolor.

But, never Pure 100% gold.

So, IMO thus far what we have here is a rolling device made for (??)
not made up of pure gold.

It is a slightly heavy bugger though @ 8.5 kg equaling
roughly 18.7 pounds!
 

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Facebook users solve mystery of 'ancient' relic unearthed in Jerusalem

Israel’s Antiquities Authority spent six months trying to identify the object. Within hours, Facebook users had named it as a New Age ‘energy harmoniser’

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Israel’s Antiquities Authority asked Facebook users for help identifying an ancient relic; it turned out to be a Weber Isis Beamer, a new-age device that claims to protect against radiation.

Israel’s Antiquities Authority says Facebook users have solved the mystery of a gilded object thought to have been an ancient Jewish relic.

But far from being a rare historical artefact, the sabre turned out to be a modern device claimed by New Age advocates to be an “energy healer”.

Amir Ganor, the authority’s director of theft prevention, says police alerted his office six months ago to a gold sceptre with seven grooves found in a Jerusalem cemetery.

It was discovered by a groundskeeper, who initially called the police, fearing it was an explosive device.
Once the 8kg, solid metal object was given the all-clear, it was handed to the Antiquities Authority, which x-rayed the sceptre and analysed its materials. Ganor said he mused whether it was used in the biblical Jewish temples.

Remains have previously been found in the cemetery dating back to the Roman, Byzantine and Crusader periods. But experts did not recognise this item.

Six months on, and with no further ideas, the authority posted a picture on Facebook asking for help. Suggestions were plentiful, with commenters wondering if the gold-plated object could be a cattle insemination instrument, a tool for rolling dough, a piece of industrial machinery, a massage object, or some kind of temple relic.

But within hours, one of over 300 responders identified the object as a Weber Isis Beamer, a device that claims to create “a protective field” against radiation and is, according to the authority’s Facebook update, “intended for the use of naturopaths and people dealing with energy healing”.

The beamer is named after Isis, the Egyptian goddess of medicine, magic and nature. It can be purchased from German firm Weber Bio from €67 (£50/$74) for a pendant, to over €1,000 for the largest version, which, the seller claims, “may harmonise even extremely strong geopathic and electromagnetic radiation fields”.

“The wisdom of the masses has done its part,” the authority said on Tuesday. It said an Italian man named Micah Barak was the first to crack the mystery, and has invited him to visit Jerusalem to see it in person.

The question of why the device was buried in the cemetery remains unsolved, however, with the authority appealing to those involved to “contact us and inform us why it was buried in an ancient structure and to whom of the dead they wished to give positive energy”.

Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Facebook users solve mystery of 'ancient' relic unearthed in Jerusalem
 

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Facebook users solve mystery of 'ancient' relic unearthed in Jerusalem

Israel’s Antiquities Authority spent six months trying to identify the object. Within hours, Facebook users had named it as a New Age ‘energy harmoniser’

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Israel’s Antiquities Authority asked Facebook users for help identifying an ancient relic; it turned out to be a Weber Isis Beamer, a new-age device that claims to protect against radiation.

Israel’s Antiquities Authority says Facebook users have solved the mystery of a gilded object thought to have been an ancient Jewish relic.

But far from being a rare historical artefact, the sabre turned out to be a modern device claimed by New Age advocates to be an “energy healer”.

Amir Ganor, the authority’s director of theft prevention, says police alerted his office six months ago to a gold sceptre with seven grooves found in a Jerusalem cemetery.

It was discovered by a groundskeeper, who initially called the police, fearing it was an explosive device.
Once the 8kg, solid metal object was given the all-clear, it was handed to the Antiquities Authority, which x-rayed the sceptre and analysed its materials. Ganor said he mused whether it was used in the biblical Jewish temples.

Remains have previously been found in the cemetery dating back to the Roman, Byzantine and Crusader periods. But experts did not recognise this item.

Six months on, and with no further ideas, the authority posted a picture on Facebook asking for help. Suggestions were plentiful, with commenters wondering if the gold-plated object could be a cattle insemination instrument, a tool for rolling dough, a piece of industrial machinery, a massage object, or some kind of temple relic.

But within hours, one of over 300 responders identified the object as a Weber Isis Beamer, a device that claims to create “a protective field” against radiation and is, according to the authority’s Facebook update, “intended for the use of naturopaths and people dealing with energy healing”.

The beamer is named after Isis, the Egyptian goddess of medicine, magic and nature. It can be purchased from German firm Weber Bio from €67 (£50/$74) for a pendant, to over €1,000 for the largest version, which, the seller claims, “may harmonise even extremely strong geopathic and electromagnetic radiation fields”.

“The wisdom of the masses has done its part,” the authority said on Tuesday. It said an Italian man named Micah Barak was the first to crack the mystery, and has invited him to visit Jerusalem to see it in person.

The question of why the device was buried in the cemetery remains unsolved, however, with the authority appealing to those involved to “contact us and inform us why it was buried in an ancient structure and to whom of the dead they wished to give positive energy”.

Associated Press contributed to this report.
Source:
Facebook users solve mystery of 'ancient' relic unearthed in Jerusalem


I would never have figured out that it was a 'Weber Isis Beamer'. o_0


Here's a W.I.B. for sale....

Weber Isis Beamer 1:4, Polished brass, with Beech wood stand

$497.13 :eek:

Hmph! :rolleyes:
 

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Im thinking about where it was found i.e in a graveyard..It was also in a box that i assume was made from metal and tying those 2 pieces of info together, i think it could have been stolen from somewhere and put into the graveyard so that no one would ever think of looking in there..
the present retail value of it about £2.85 million pounds and no one yet has said it was stolen from them...the plot thickens :D
You know? I had thought of that too! lol.

You could be right....

I just took a laptop (my friend's computer) and blew up the image to 400%.
There is that curious discolorization of the gold in the center.

But as you said, gold doesn't tarnish.

Curious wouldn't you say?

The discoloration does look that part of the object has been in contact with something that would roughen up its polished appearance. So perhaps rolling it on a table has scuffed it up a bit. And only pure gold is claimed not to tarnish.


Exactly.

From what I see, I am doubting that it is pure gold just from the discolorization alone
but...(What am I missing here..) something I read..somewhere...too long ago about certain
perfumes and their chemical make up could cause even the purest combination of gold
above 18 karat and better, tarnish/discolor.

But, never Pure 100% gold.

So, IMO thus far what we have here is a rolling device made for (??)
not made up of pure gold.

It is a slightly heavy bugger though @ 8.5 kg equaling
roughly 18.7 pounds!
Looks like you were right Windy, it was made from brass...I doubted anyone with a lump of gold that size worth about 2.8 million ponds could have "misplaced it" :eek::D
 

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Archaeologists have been unable to determine the use or purpose of an 8.5 kilogram gold tool discovered in a Jerusalem cemetery.

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The Israel Antiquities authority turned to the public on Tuesday in a Facebook post in an attempt to understand the purpose or use for a mysterious artifact that was discovered in an old building in a cemetery in Jerusalem.

Several months ago, a maintenance worker for the cemetery noticed an abandoned package inside an old structure on the cemetery grounds. In accordance with security protocol, the worker immediately alerted police forces in the area who carried out a controlled explosion within the building to eliminate any possible threat from the package.

The damage caused to the structure revealed a gold-colored object which was turned over to the Israel Antiquities Authority for study.

Weighing in at 8.5 kg., the Israel Antiquities Authority has been stumped by the gold object having never seen anything of the like in the past. The object was taken in for testing and examination by experts who tried to understand the use and purpose of the item.

After several months of tests and studies the Antiquities Authority, unable to assign a name to the mysterious object, has now turned to the public for help determining what the object is and how it ended up in the cemetery structure.

So, we turn to you. What do you think it is?

Source:
History mystery: Gold tool discovered in Jerusalem cemetery leaves archaeologists stumped - Israel News - Jerusalem Post

i know what it is, its a Ancient Astronaut battery, or ufo ship lanyard :D
 

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