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9/11 Revisited Again
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<blockquote data-quote="Zoomerz" data-source="post: 20092" data-attributes="member: 390"><p><strong>Re: 9/11 Revisited Again</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually, the evidence I provided says it was a 757, not 767 (as PM tries to assert), but regardless, for those interested, see:</p><p></p><p><a href="http://home.planet.nl/~reijd050/pentahole_dimensions_est.htm" target="_blank">http://home.planet.nl/~reijd050/pentahole_...ensions_est.htm</a> </p><p></p><p>As far as whether or not Osama, Al Qaeda, or terrorism at all was behind 9-11, I think we first have to have "reason to believe" that it was other than advertised. By this, I mean, it is unreasonable to "assume" there IS a conspiracy, and then try to prove it. It is much more reasonable to "assume" there is NOT a conspiracy, and try to explain inconsistencies in that light.</p><p></p><p>It is exactly where the latter approach fails, that we would begin to suspect deception, wouldn't you agree?</p><p></p><p>My problem with "most" conspiracy theories (and theorists) is that it appears as though they are "looking for" their theories to be true, rather than using the very same logic to prove them false. In the case of 9-11, while debunking the Pentagon "hole is too small" mystery doesn't prove that 9-11 was legit, it does illustrate how "much" this evidence has been used to prop up other allegations. </p><p></p><p>Now, I'm NOT saying 9-11 WAS NOT a conspiracy. There are still MANY questions in my mind that have not been successfully answered, however, the fact remains that stories such as "911 in Plain Site" which many have seen, relies heavily on the Pentagon evidence to establish their conspiracy point of view.</p><p></p><p>Some of the more troubling questions I have concern the "pulling" of bldg 7, and, if coroborated that it truly was "demolished", it would lend me to believe that so were the 2 towers. hmmmmm.....</p><p></p><p>Concerning 9-11 and the planes....</p><p></p><p>Irrelevant (MHO). If "the boys" truly does include OBL, and/or the "terrorism" threat is a manufactured state to promote elitist agendas, and therefore 9-11 is a part of this conspiracy, then it would be illogical to intentionally use military planes, special planes, or anything OTHER THAN the exact flights reported. IF the towers were actually demolished, then no special planes would have been necessary, and the conspiritors would have been taking UNNECESSARY chances at being discovered. Besides, there WERE people on these flights, and nobody has successfully shown me where those people might have gone down if not into the towers.</p><p></p><p>Again, I'm not saying these elitists did not mastermind 9-11, in fact, being a general skeptic of government, I see the big picture in many ways the same as Cary, Bubbu, Paul, Darkwolf, and many others here do, and if we keep our eyes focused on the macro, instead of the micro, it's not hard to see the push....The future is looking rather bleak!</p><p></p><p>Anyway, Cary, I'd especially like to hear more from you on Bldg 7, whatcha got?</p><p></p><p>Z-</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zoomerz, post: 20092, member: 390"] [b]Re: 9/11 Revisited Again[/b] Actually, the evidence I provided says it was a 757, not 767 (as PM tries to assert), but regardless, for those interested, see: [url=http://home.planet.nl/~reijd050/pentahole_dimensions_est.htm]http://home.planet.nl/~reijd050/pentahole_...ensions_est.htm[/url] As far as whether or not Osama, Al Qaeda, or terrorism at all was behind 9-11, I think we first have to have "reason to believe" that it was other than advertised. By this, I mean, it is unreasonable to "assume" there IS a conspiracy, and then try to prove it. It is much more reasonable to "assume" there is NOT a conspiracy, and try to explain inconsistencies in that light. It is exactly where the latter approach fails, that we would begin to suspect deception, wouldn't you agree? My problem with "most" conspiracy theories (and theorists) is that it appears as though they are "looking for" their theories to be true, rather than using the very same logic to prove them false. In the case of 9-11, while debunking the Pentagon "hole is too small" mystery doesn't prove that 9-11 was legit, it does illustrate how "much" this evidence has been used to prop up other allegations. Now, I'm NOT saying 9-11 WAS NOT a conspiracy. There are still MANY questions in my mind that have not been successfully answered, however, the fact remains that stories such as "911 in Plain Site" which many have seen, relies heavily on the Pentagon evidence to establish their conspiracy point of view. Some of the more troubling questions I have concern the "pulling" of bldg 7, and, if coroborated that it truly was "demolished", it would lend me to believe that so were the 2 towers. hmmmmm..... Concerning 9-11 and the planes.... Irrelevant (MHO). If "the boys" truly does include OBL, and/or the "terrorism" threat is a manufactured state to promote elitist agendas, and therefore 9-11 is a part of this conspiracy, then it would be illogical to intentionally use military planes, special planes, or anything OTHER THAN the exact flights reported. IF the towers were actually demolished, then no special planes would have been necessary, and the conspiritors would have been taking UNNECESSARY chances at being discovered. Besides, there WERE people on these flights, and nobody has successfully shown me where those people might have gone down if not into the towers. Again, I'm not saying these elitists did not mastermind 9-11, in fact, being a general skeptic of government, I see the big picture in many ways the same as Cary, Bubbu, Paul, Darkwolf, and many others here do, and if we keep our eyes focused on the macro, instead of the micro, it's not hard to see the push....The future is looking rather bleak! Anyway, Cary, I'd especially like to hear more from you on Bldg 7, whatcha got? Z- [/QUOTE]
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