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<blockquote data-quote="taykair" data-source="post: 170343" data-attributes="member: 9418"><p>On a related note (and this may have something to do with Mayhem's views concerning mind existence before physical birth), I've been thinking a bit more about the second (or midpoint) stage of human existence I mentioned earlier - existence as individual, non-corporeal beings.</p><p></p><p>I mentioned that such an existence would be akin to a dreamlike state. If this is so, then I would think that our environment in such a state would exist in one of two ways:</p><p></p><p>In the first dreamlike environment, we would be aware that we are "dreaming" (like lucid dreaming, only much more tangible). In such an environment, we would be able to change things at will to conform them to our desires - creating our own heaven, you might say. However, it seems to me that such an existence would soon grow to be intolerable, since we would know that we are living only within our own minds, and not interacting with the "real world" around us. We would soon feel that we were living in a "fake" world, surrounded by "fake" people.</p><p></p><p>In the second dreamlike environment, we would share a common environment with other non-corporeal beings, although we would still not share a common consciousness. (This would occur later, in the "group mind-energy" state). In this kind of dream-world, we would <em>not</em> be able to make everything just the way we would want, and those inhabiting that world with us would be independent of our control. In other words, it would be an environment - more or less - like the one we currently find ourselves living in. Which leads me to think...</p><p></p><p>...what if we are <em>already</em> non-corporeal beings, living in a dream-world environment? What if we are only <em>imagining</em> that we possess physical existence? How could we prove that it is otherwise?</p><p></p><p>I feel a headache coming on. Thinking about stuff like this always gives me a headache.</p><p></p><p>Or maybe I'm imagining <em>that</em>, too.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="taykair, post: 170343, member: 9418"] On a related note (and this may have something to do with Mayhem's views concerning mind existence before physical birth), I've been thinking a bit more about the second (or midpoint) stage of human existence I mentioned earlier - existence as individual, non-corporeal beings. I mentioned that such an existence would be akin to a dreamlike state. If this is so, then I would think that our environment in such a state would exist in one of two ways: In the first dreamlike environment, we would be aware that we are "dreaming" (like lucid dreaming, only much more tangible). In such an environment, we would be able to change things at will to conform them to our desires - creating our own heaven, you might say. However, it seems to me that such an existence would soon grow to be intolerable, since we would know that we are living only within our own minds, and not interacting with the "real world" around us. We would soon feel that we were living in a "fake" world, surrounded by "fake" people. In the second dreamlike environment, we would share a common environment with other non-corporeal beings, although we would still not share a common consciousness. (This would occur later, in the "group mind-energy" state). In this kind of dream-world, we would [I]not[/I] be able to make everything just the way we would want, and those inhabiting that world with us would be independent of our control. In other words, it would be an environment - more or less - like the one we currently find ourselves living in. Which leads me to think... ...what if we are [I]already[/I] non-corporeal beings, living in a dream-world environment? What if we are only [I]imagining[/I] that we possess physical existence? How could we prove that it is otherwise? I feel a headache coming on. Thinking about stuff like this always gives me a headache. Or maybe I'm imagining [I]that[/I], too. [/QUOTE]
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