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<blockquote data-quote="Harte" data-source="post: 132897" data-attributes="member: 443"><p>I consider it performing a valuable service.</p><p></p><p>If we are truly interested in these arcane subjects, then shouldn't we try not to waste our time on claims that can be shown to be either outright fraud or just plainly a result of ignorance on the subject?</p><p></p><p>The only reason the place-name "Atlantis" is bandied about on the internet is because 2300 years ago Plato took the name of the Atlantic Ocean and used it as a place-name for a fictional culture in an allegory he wrote as a critique of Athens. In his writings, Plato described his Atlantis in some detail. None of those details involved crystal power, flying vehicles, death rays or anything remotely like that. Yet today we have thousands of people who have never read Plato pretending to "know" that Atlantis was a civilization in possession of high technology.</p><p></p><p>If a person is <em><strong>actually</strong></em> interested in Atlantis, then that person should stick to Atlantis, and not bother with the ridiculous claims of liars trying to make money off the ignorant masses.</p><p></p><p>Please note that the topic of Atlantis, though very popular, is just a grain of sand on a beach full of similar fraudulent claims.</p><p></p><p></p><p>As a science teacher, I know better than to think science has "proof" of anything at all. The ONLY proof of anything at all is found in Mathematics (which I also teach, BTW.)</p><p>It may surprise you that I started out believing not only in Atlantis, but the whole Ancient Alien Theory, including Sitchin's ridiculous nonsense.</p><p>My own curiosity ended that belief because I looked into the claims and found most of them to be lies, and the rest simply wrong.</p><p>As you can imagine, I didn't appreciate that.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I hardly ever say there is no "proof" of a thing because I understand there is no "proof" of anything at all.</p><p>There is evidence for and against everything. If a person is going to use reasoning to arrive at a conclusion, then ALL the evidence has to be looked at.</p><p>Typically, I don't believe in a thing if I can find no legitimate reason to believe in that thing.</p><p></p><p>There are plenty of reasons to believe that intelligent life exists outside our Solar System, so I do believe this.</p><p>I have never been able to establish a reason to believe that alien intelligent life has visited Earth, so I don't believe that.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Thank you VERY much for that Krish. It's just about the nicest thing said about me in the last five years on this board.</p><p>I'm glad someone here understands what I'm trying to do.</p><p></p><p>Harte</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Harte, post: 132897, member: 443"] I consider it performing a valuable service. If we are truly interested in these arcane subjects, then shouldn't we try not to waste our time on claims that can be shown to be either outright fraud or just plainly a result of ignorance on the subject? The only reason the place-name "Atlantis" is bandied about on the internet is because 2300 years ago Plato took the name of the Atlantic Ocean and used it as a place-name for a fictional culture in an allegory he wrote as a critique of Athens. In his writings, Plato described his Atlantis in some detail. None of those details involved crystal power, flying vehicles, death rays or anything remotely like that. Yet today we have thousands of people who have never read Plato pretending to "know" that Atlantis was a civilization in possession of high technology. If a person is [I][B]actually[/B][/I] interested in Atlantis, then that person should stick to Atlantis, and not bother with the ridiculous claims of liars trying to make money off the ignorant masses. Please note that the topic of Atlantis, though very popular, is just a grain of sand on a beach full of similar fraudulent claims. As a science teacher, I know better than to think science has "proof" of anything at all. The ONLY proof of anything at all is found in Mathematics (which I also teach, BTW.) It may surprise you that I started out believing not only in Atlantis, but the whole Ancient Alien Theory, including Sitchin's ridiculous nonsense. My own curiosity ended that belief because I looked into the claims and found most of them to be lies, and the rest simply wrong. As you can imagine, I didn't appreciate that. I hardly ever say there is no "proof" of a thing because I understand there is no "proof" of anything at all. There is evidence for and against everything. If a person is going to use reasoning to arrive at a conclusion, then ALL the evidence has to be looked at. Typically, I don't believe in a thing if I can find no legitimate reason to believe in that thing. There are plenty of reasons to believe that intelligent life exists outside our Solar System, so I do believe this. I have never been able to establish a reason to believe that alien intelligent life has visited Earth, so I don't believe that. Thank you VERY much for that Krish. It's just about the nicest thing said about me in the last five years on this board. I'm glad someone here understands what I'm trying to do. Harte [/QUOTE]
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