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<blockquote data-quote="Harte" data-source="post: 184725" data-attributes="member: 443"><p>My point exactly. It is evidence of a crime, not proof that a crime occurred.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Which I would consider as evidence of paranormal activity, albeit admittedly weak evidence</p><p></p><p>But you have not determined that. You have made a conscious choice (and probably a correct choice) to give the latter evidence more weight.</p><p></p><p>Certainly. But I DID stipulate that it was blood. However, maybe someone spilled a bag of donated blood. With no body to examine, we can't even establish that a crime was committed. But that doesn't mean that empty cartridge shells and blood are not evidence of a crime.</p><p></p><p></p><p>That is completely different. If you examine the entire bucket of marbles, and find that it contains no red marble, you have PROVEN there are no red marbles in the bucket. Not the same idea at all, and not one of either of the two sorts of evidence you categorized.</p><p>You must admit that we cannot examine every cubic inch of South Florida for evidence of the Inuit though. Nor can we examine every bit of evidence for every suspected paranormal event.</p><p></p><p></p><p>People here seem to have the wrong idea of what is meant by the word "evidence."</p><p>Evidence is only an indication, not a assertion.</p><p></p><p>Okay, I agree with that. But you have to agree that all we can do is examine claims that are made, not claims that are not made. Once thousands of claims have been examined and dismissed for good reasons, an apparent conclusion is on the horizon.</p><p>Couching an argument in the way you have is a much better way to make the point of the post which brought me into this in the first place. Emphases are my own:</p><p></p><p></p><p>The bolded portions are simply not true. As you have stated, absence of evidence IS evidence of absence (but not proof of it.). I mean, you're not sitting here at my kitchen table with me are you? How do I know that?</p><p></p><p>Future predictions are successfully made every single day that are based on what has occurred in the past. The Sun will rise tomorrow. It's called inductive reasoning and allows for a false conclusion - obviously it's possible that one day the Sun will NOT come up tomorrow. We use inductive reasoning all the time. ALL. THE. TIME. Subconsciously even.</p><p></p><p>Nobody assumes that the knowledge we have of the universe is anywhere near complete. Or even true, for that matter.</p><p></p><p>Most of the time I see people incorrectly using the word "proof" when they mean "evidence." In this thread, that is reversed.</p><p></p><p>Harte</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Harte, post: 184725, member: 443"] My point exactly. It is evidence of a crime, not proof that a crime occurred. Which I would consider as evidence of paranormal activity, albeit admittedly weak evidence But you have not determined that. You have made a conscious choice (and probably a correct choice) to give the latter evidence more weight. Certainly. But I DID stipulate that it was blood. However, maybe someone spilled a bag of donated blood. With no body to examine, we can't even establish that a crime was committed. But that doesn't mean that empty cartridge shells and blood are not evidence of a crime. That is completely different. If you examine the entire bucket of marbles, and find that it contains no red marble, you have PROVEN there are no red marbles in the bucket. Not the same idea at all, and not one of either of the two sorts of evidence you categorized. You must admit that we cannot examine every cubic inch of South Florida for evidence of the Inuit though. Nor can we examine every bit of evidence for every suspected paranormal event. People here seem to have the wrong idea of what is meant by the word "evidence." Evidence is only an indication, not a assertion. Okay, I agree with that. But you have to agree that all we can do is examine claims that are made, not claims that are not made. Once thousands of claims have been examined and dismissed for good reasons, an apparent conclusion is on the horizon. Couching an argument in the way you have is a much better way to make the point of the post which brought me into this in the first place. Emphases are my own: The bolded portions are simply not true. As you have stated, absence of evidence IS evidence of absence (but not proof of it.). I mean, you're not sitting here at my kitchen table with me are you? How do I know that? Future predictions are successfully made every single day that are based on what has occurred in the past. The Sun will rise tomorrow. It's called inductive reasoning and allows for a false conclusion - obviously it's possible that one day the Sun will NOT come up tomorrow. We use inductive reasoning all the time. ALL. THE. TIME. Subconsciously even. Nobody assumes that the knowledge we have of the universe is anywhere near complete. Or even true, for that matter. Most of the time I see people incorrectly using the word "proof" when they mean "evidence." In this thread, that is reversed. Harte [/QUOTE]
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