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<blockquote data-quote="Samstwitch" data-source="post: 68651" data-attributes="member: 2770"><p><em><span style="font-size: 18px">Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive.</span></em> <span style="font-size: 18px">~Sir Walter Scott</span></p><p> </p><p>[ATTACH=full]772[/ATTACH]</p><p> </p><p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/apnewsbreak-russia-caught-bomb-suspect-wiretap-211814701.html" target="_blank"><strong><span style="font-size: 22px">Bomber Suspect No.1 and Mom Caught on Russian Wiretap talking about Jihad</span></strong></a></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #ccffcc">WASHINGTON (AP) — Russian authorities secretly recorded a telephone conversation in 2011 in which one of the Boston bombing suspects vaguely discussed jihad with his mother, officials said Saturday, days after the U.S. government finally received details about the call.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ccffcc">In another conversation, the mother of now-dead bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev was recorded talking to someone in southern Russia who is under FBI investigation in an unrelated case, officials said.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ccffcc">The conversations are significant because, had they been revealed earlier, they might have been enough evidence for the FBI to initiate a more thorough investigation of the Tsarnaev family.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ccffcc">As it was, Russian authorities told the FBI only that they had concerns that Tamerlan and his mother were religious extremists. With no additional information, the FBI conducted a limited inquiry and closed the case in June 2011.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ccffcc">Two years later, authorities say Tamerlan and his brother, Dzhohkar, detonated two homemade bombs near the finish line of the Boston Marathon, killing three and injuring more than 260. Tamerlan was killed in a police shootout and Dzhohkar is under arrest.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ccffcc">In the past week, Russian authorities turned over to the United States information it had on Tamerlan and his mother, Zubeidat Tsarnaeva. The Tsarnaevs are ethnic Chechens who emigrated from southern Russia to the Boston area over the past 11 years.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ccffcc">Even had the FBI received the information from the Russian wiretaps earlier, it's not clear that the government could have prevented the attack.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ccffcc">In early 2011, the Russian FSB internal security service intercepted a conversation between Tamerlan and his mother vaguely discussing jihad, according to U.S. officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the investigation with reporters.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ccffcc">The two discussed the possibility of Tamerlan going to Palestine, but he told his mother he didn't speak the language there, according to the officials, who reviewed the information Russia shared with the U.S.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ccffcc">In a second call, Zubeidat Tsarnaeva spoke with a man in the Caucasus region of Russia who was under FBI investigation. Jacqueline Maguire, a spokeswoman for the FBI's Washington Field Office, where that investigation was based, declined to comment.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ccffcc">There was no information in the conversation that suggested a plot inside the United States, officials said.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ccffcc">It was not immediately clear why Russian authorities didn't share more information at the time. It is not unusual for countries, including the U.S., to be cagey with foreign authorities about what intelligence is being collected.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ccffcc">Nobody was available to discuss the matter early Sunday at FSB offices in Moscow.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ccffcc">Jim Treacy, the FBI's legal attache in Moscow between 2007 and 2009, said the Russians long asked for U.S. assistance regarding Chechen activity in the United States that might be related to terrorism.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ccffcc">"On any given day, you can get some very good cooperation," Treacy said. "The next you might find yourself totally shut out."</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ccffcc">Zubeidat Tsarnaeva has denied that she or her sons were involved in terrorism. She has said she believed her sons have been framed by U.S. authorities.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ccffcc">But Ruslan Tsarni, an uncle of the Tsarnaev brothers and Zubeidat's former brother-in-law, said Saturday he believes the mother had a "big-time influence" as her older son increasingly embraced his Muslim faith and decided to quit boxing and school.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ccffcc">After receiving the narrow tip from Russia in March 2011, the FBI opened a preliminary investigation into Tamerlan and his mother. But the scope was extremely limited under the FBI's internal procedures.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ccffcc">After a few months, they found no evidence Tamerlan or his mother were involved in terrorism.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ccffcc">The FBI asked Russia for more information. After hearing nothing, it closed the case in June 2011.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ccffcc">In the fall of 2011, the FSB contacted the CIA with the same information. Again the FBI asked Russia for more details and never heard back.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ccffcc">At that time, however, the CIA asked that Tamerlan's and his mother's name be entered into a massive U.S. terrorism database.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ccffcc">The CIA declined to comment Saturday.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ccffcc">Authorities have said they've seen no connection between the brothers and a foreign terrorist group. Dzhohkar told FBI interrogators that he and his brother were angry over wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and the deaths of Muslim civilians there.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ccffcc">Family members have said Tamerlan was religiously apathetic until 2008 or 2009, when he met a conservative Muslim convert known only to the family as Misha. Misha, they said, steered Tamerlan toward a stricter version of Islam.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ccffcc">Two U.S. officials say investigators believe they have identified Misha. While it was not clear whether the FBI had spoken to him, the officials said they have not found a connection between Misha and the Boston attack or terrorism in general.</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Samstwitch, post: 68651, member: 2770"] [I][SIZE=5]Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive.[/SIZE][/I] [SIZE=5]~Sir Walter Scott[/SIZE] [ATTACH=full]772[/ATTACH] [URL='http://news.yahoo.com/apnewsbreak-russia-caught-bomb-suspect-wiretap-211814701.html'][B][SIZE=6]Bomber Suspect No.1 and Mom Caught on Russian Wiretap talking about Jihad[/SIZE][/B][/URL] [COLOR=#ccffcc]WASHINGTON (AP) — Russian authorities secretly recorded a telephone conversation in 2011 in which one of the Boston bombing suspects vaguely discussed jihad with his mother, officials said Saturday, days after the U.S. government finally received details about the call.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ccffcc]In another conversation, the mother of now-dead bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev was recorded talking to someone in southern Russia who is under FBI investigation in an unrelated case, officials said.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ccffcc]The conversations are significant because, had they been revealed earlier, they might have been enough evidence for the FBI to initiate a more thorough investigation of the Tsarnaev family.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ccffcc]As it was, Russian authorities told the FBI only that they had concerns that Tamerlan and his mother were religious extremists. With no additional information, the FBI conducted a limited inquiry and closed the case in June 2011.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ccffcc]Two years later, authorities say Tamerlan and his brother, Dzhohkar, detonated two homemade bombs near the finish line of the Boston Marathon, killing three and injuring more than 260. Tamerlan was killed in a police shootout and Dzhohkar is under arrest.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ccffcc]In the past week, Russian authorities turned over to the United States information it had on Tamerlan and his mother, Zubeidat Tsarnaeva. The Tsarnaevs are ethnic Chechens who emigrated from southern Russia to the Boston area over the past 11 years.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ccffcc]Even had the FBI received the information from the Russian wiretaps earlier, it's not clear that the government could have prevented the attack.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ccffcc]In early 2011, the Russian FSB internal security service intercepted a conversation between Tamerlan and his mother vaguely discussing jihad, according to U.S. officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the investigation with reporters.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ccffcc]The two discussed the possibility of Tamerlan going to Palestine, but he told his mother he didn't speak the language there, according to the officials, who reviewed the information Russia shared with the U.S.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ccffcc]In a second call, Zubeidat Tsarnaeva spoke with a man in the Caucasus region of Russia who was under FBI investigation. Jacqueline Maguire, a spokeswoman for the FBI's Washington Field Office, where that investigation was based, declined to comment.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ccffcc]There was no information in the conversation that suggested a plot inside the United States, officials said.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ccffcc]It was not immediately clear why Russian authorities didn't share more information at the time. It is not unusual for countries, including the U.S., to be cagey with foreign authorities about what intelligence is being collected.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ccffcc]Nobody was available to discuss the matter early Sunday at FSB offices in Moscow.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ccffcc]Jim Treacy, the FBI's legal attache in Moscow between 2007 and 2009, said the Russians long asked for U.S. assistance regarding Chechen activity in the United States that might be related to terrorism.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ccffcc]"On any given day, you can get some very good cooperation," Treacy said. "The next you might find yourself totally shut out."[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ccffcc]Zubeidat Tsarnaeva has denied that she or her sons were involved in terrorism. She has said she believed her sons have been framed by U.S. authorities.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ccffcc]But Ruslan Tsarni, an uncle of the Tsarnaev brothers and Zubeidat's former brother-in-law, said Saturday he believes the mother had a "big-time influence" as her older son increasingly embraced his Muslim faith and decided to quit boxing and school.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ccffcc]After receiving the narrow tip from Russia in March 2011, the FBI opened a preliminary investigation into Tamerlan and his mother. But the scope was extremely limited under the FBI's internal procedures.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ccffcc]After a few months, they found no evidence Tamerlan or his mother were involved in terrorism.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ccffcc]The FBI asked Russia for more information. After hearing nothing, it closed the case in June 2011.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ccffcc]In the fall of 2011, the FSB contacted the CIA with the same information. Again the FBI asked Russia for more details and never heard back.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ccffcc]At that time, however, the CIA asked that Tamerlan's and his mother's name be entered into a massive U.S. terrorism database.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ccffcc]The CIA declined to comment Saturday.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ccffcc]Authorities have said they've seen no connection between the brothers and a foreign terrorist group. Dzhohkar told FBI interrogators that he and his brother were angry over wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and the deaths of Muslim civilians there.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ccffcc]Family members have said Tamerlan was religiously apathetic until 2008 or 2009, when he met a conservative Muslim convert known only to the family as Misha. Misha, they said, steered Tamerlan toward a stricter version of Islam.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ccffcc]Two U.S. officials say investigators believe they have identified Misha. While it was not clear whether the FBI had spoken to him, the officials said they have not found a connection between Misha and the Boston attack or terrorism in general.[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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