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<blockquote data-quote="JimmyD" data-source="post: 161799" data-attributes="member: 9832"><p>"Cult" is arguable. You cannot disagree that it is violent. That is called "denial".</p><p></p><p>What is violence? It is to abuse or mistreat, to violate that which is rightful. Do you have a right to steal, coerce, imprison or kill people because you want to? Do people have a right to steal from, coerce, imprison or kill you because they want to?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You don't have a right to vote for government because government is violent. You do not have a right to violate. If you do, it makes you a criminal, a terrorist, by definition. You DO, however, have a right to choose a leader and system of organization for yourself and community. ...as long as that leader and system does not violate on your behalf.</p><p></p><p>What is crime? What is terrorism?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Then what is the problem?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You are if you vote or willingly give material support to government. You are hiring someone to threaten people in order to force them to be and do as is convenient to your wants and needs. Government's ultimate answer to everything is murder/destruction.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They are indeed oppressed and violated, as they are claimed subjects of your gang. Rich people are just as much victims as anyone else, usually through some sort of extortion disguised as economic law. ...not to mention the myriad of laws forcefully regulating or prohibiting nonviolent behaviors.</p><p></p><p>EVERYONE who lives within the claimed territory of the state is violated. No one has a right to force anyone to do anything unless it is defense or restitution from an act of violence.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>He's a slave, only the plantation is a collective of 50 states.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JimmyD, post: 161799, member: 9832"] "Cult" is arguable. You cannot disagree that it is violent. That is called "denial". What is violence? It is to abuse or mistreat, to violate that which is rightful. Do you have a right to steal, coerce, imprison or kill people because you want to? Do people have a right to steal from, coerce, imprison or kill you because they want to? You don't have a right to vote for government because government is violent. You do not have a right to violate. If you do, it makes you a criminal, a terrorist, by definition. You DO, however, have a right to choose a leader and system of organization for yourself and community. ...as long as that leader and system does not violate on your behalf. What is crime? What is terrorism? Then what is the problem? You are if you vote or willingly give material support to government. You are hiring someone to threaten people in order to force them to be and do as is convenient to your wants and needs. Government's ultimate answer to everything is murder/destruction. They are indeed oppressed and violated, as they are claimed subjects of your gang. Rich people are just as much victims as anyone else, usually through some sort of extortion disguised as economic law. ...not to mention the myriad of laws forcefully regulating or prohibiting nonviolent behaviors. EVERYONE who lives within the claimed territory of the state is violated. No one has a right to force anyone to do anything unless it is defense or restitution from an act of violence. He's a slave, only the plantation is a collective of 50 states. [/QUOTE]
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