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<blockquote data-quote="taykair" data-source="post: 174346" data-attributes="member: 9418"><p>It isn't necessary to have a First Amendment in order to protect speech that the majority agrees with. What would be the point? No. The reason we have a First Amendment in the USA is so that the state is not able to dictate what can or cannot be expressed by the individual - even if that individual expresses ideas which are unpopular.</p><p></p><p>There are some limits, based on Supreme Court decisions, concerning incitement for illegal activity (firing up a mob to go burn down someone's house, for example), obscenity (communities may zone property to keep out adult book stores, strip clubs and the like), and a few other VERY LIMITED restrictions. However, for the most part, freedom of individual expression cannot be - and should not be - denied by the state.</p><p></p><p>That being said, the protests by some NFL players ARE protected speech (with the proviso that their employer allows such demonstrations, since it is the team owners' "stage" on which the protests are being made). </p><p></p><p>However, it should be recognized that this protection is from STATE interference, not from individuals who wish to boycott or argue against their behavior, for that is also protected speech. </p><p></p><p>Since there are no plans (that I am aware of) for the government to prohibit such protests, then any talk of First Amendment rights, or violation of said rights, is rather mistaken.</p><p></p><p>So, I believe we all can agree that the players (if the owners do not prohibit them) have every right to "take a knee" during the national anthem, and that others have every right to condemn them for doing so.</p><p></p><p>And I hope we can all agree that the government should not get involved at all.</p><p></p><p>Take care.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="taykair, post: 174346, member: 9418"] It isn't necessary to have a First Amendment in order to protect speech that the majority agrees with. What would be the point? No. The reason we have a First Amendment in the USA is so that the state is not able to dictate what can or cannot be expressed by the individual - even if that individual expresses ideas which are unpopular. There are some limits, based on Supreme Court decisions, concerning incitement for illegal activity (firing up a mob to go burn down someone's house, for example), obscenity (communities may zone property to keep out adult book stores, strip clubs and the like), and a few other VERY LIMITED restrictions. However, for the most part, freedom of individual expression cannot be - and should not be - denied by the state. That being said, the protests by some NFL players ARE protected speech (with the proviso that their employer allows such demonstrations, since it is the team owners' "stage" on which the protests are being made). However, it should be recognized that this protection is from STATE interference, not from individuals who wish to boycott or argue against their behavior, for that is also protected speech. Since there are no plans (that I am aware of) for the government to prohibit such protests, then any talk of First Amendment rights, or violation of said rights, is rather mistaken. So, I believe we all can agree that the players (if the owners do not prohibit them) have every right to "take a knee" during the national anthem, and that others have every right to condemn them for doing so. And I hope we can all agree that the government should not get involved at all. Take care. [/QUOTE]
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