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<blockquote data-quote="yeyeman9" data-source="post: 16303" data-attributes="member: 303"><p><strong>Dates</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Doing the math from the given "durations", we learn that the First Sun began in 20,239 BC, and that apparently nearly every living thing on Earth has nearly been obliterated in 16,231 BC, 12,221 BC, 8140 BC, and 3114 BC. Admittedly, our knowledge of our own history before 2000 BC is disappointing, but I think it can be argued with a reasonable degree of confidence that most of these apocalypses did not occur.</p><p></p><p>However, it is worth noting that the end of the First Sun likely bears some historical accuracy if it is taken to be an account of the end of the last Ice Age (though the date must be pushed forward by about 6700 years), particularly since much of its description matches the "Noah's Ark" style of flood story that is seen in hundreds of independent cultures world wide, right down to the part about giants.</p><p></p><p>The following apocalypses sound like they may have been mythical exaggerations on a particularly bad hurricane, wildfire, and famine (possibly from burned crops, blood maybe referring to constant fighting over available food). Though the dates are probably completely off for all disasters, it was understood that all of these took place before the rise of the Olmec civilization, when, from what we know, such incidents could indeed have been locally "apocalyptic" for any people in what is now Mexico. Those are simply my own ideas on what they may have been referring to, nothing more.</p><p></p><p>I will admit that Olmec/Mayan calendrical record for prophecy has been decent, but given their track records on these "world ages" that in all likelyhood did not exist, I wouldn't be overly concerned. The only way that I know of for such a movement of the earth to occur would be a crustal displacement, and the very existence of such a thing is debateable (most scientists today concur that they do not, though it is by no means absolutely true), and that would need an external gravitational stimulus to be provoked (probably from a comet or asteroid). The ancient Mesoamerican empires were excellent astronomers; I suppose it's possible that they tracked the Earth's rotation and that of inner solar system comets well enough to calculate a collision on 23 December, 2012. However, for that to be true, it would also need to be accepted for the Mayans, Olmecs, or both to be well-versed in Crustal Displacement Theory. And the fact remains that outgassing can change a comet's trajectory substantially, and at any time without notice.</p><p></p><p>I don't know enough about geology or astronomy to claim I've gone down every lane of thought, but from what I do know, I'd say that, unless the ancient Mesoamericans knew something that we don't about the physical nature of our planet's crust, there's no cause for alarm over their apocalypse prophecy.</p><p></p><p>Er...also, I'm new, and fully acknowledge the fact that the lot of you have probably seen something like this posted several dozen times in the past.</p><p></p><p>Lo.</p><p style="text-align: right">[snapback]20186[/snapback]</p><p>[/b]</p></blockquote><p></p><p>And how do they know about the other "suns". This all seems like pure non-proved-just-a-myth theory. Does not sounds logic at all, no offence. I dont think the world will come to an end in that date.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="yeyeman9, post: 16303, member: 303"] [b]Dates[/b] Doing the math from the given "durations", we learn that the First Sun began in 20,239 BC, and that apparently nearly every living thing on Earth has nearly been obliterated in 16,231 BC, 12,221 BC, 8140 BC, and 3114 BC. Admittedly, our knowledge of our own history before 2000 BC is disappointing, but I think it can be argued with a reasonable degree of confidence that most of these apocalypses did not occur. However, it is worth noting that the end of the First Sun likely bears some historical accuracy if it is taken to be an account of the end of the last Ice Age (though the date must be pushed forward by about 6700 years), particularly since much of its description matches the "Noah's Ark" style of flood story that is seen in hundreds of independent cultures world wide, right down to the part about giants. The following apocalypses sound like they may have been mythical exaggerations on a particularly bad hurricane, wildfire, and famine (possibly from burned crops, blood maybe referring to constant fighting over available food). Though the dates are probably completely off for all disasters, it was understood that all of these took place before the rise of the Olmec civilization, when, from what we know, such incidents could indeed have been locally "apocalyptic" for any people in what is now Mexico. Those are simply my own ideas on what they may have been referring to, nothing more. I will admit that Olmec/Mayan calendrical record for prophecy has been decent, but given their track records on these "world ages" that in all likelyhood did not exist, I wouldn't be overly concerned. The only way that I know of for such a movement of the earth to occur would be a crustal displacement, and the very existence of such a thing is debateable (most scientists today concur that they do not, though it is by no means absolutely true), and that would need an external gravitational stimulus to be provoked (probably from a comet or asteroid). The ancient Mesoamerican empires were excellent astronomers; I suppose it's possible that they tracked the Earth's rotation and that of inner solar system comets well enough to calculate a collision on 23 December, 2012. However, for that to be true, it would also need to be accepted for the Mayans, Olmecs, or both to be well-versed in Crustal Displacement Theory. And the fact remains that outgassing can change a comet's trajectory substantially, and at any time without notice. I don't know enough about geology or astronomy to claim I've gone down every lane of thought, but from what I do know, I'd say that, unless the ancient Mesoamericans knew something that we don't about the physical nature of our planet's crust, there's no cause for alarm over their apocalypse prophecy. Er...also, I'm new, and fully acknowledge the fact that the lot of you have probably seen something like this posted several dozen times in the past. Lo. [right][snapback]20186[/snapback][/right] [/b][/quote] And how do they know about the other "suns". This all seems like pure non-proved-just-a-myth theory. Does not sounds logic at all, no offence. I dont think the world will come to an end in that date. [/QUOTE]
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