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<blockquote data-quote="Cirrus" data-source="post: 178602" data-attributes="member: 10493"><p>I have not looked too deep into PolitiFact's <a href="https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2018/feb/12/principles-truth-o-meter-politifacts-methodology-i/" target="_blank">process</a>, but, if genuine, it can be a good resource. The problem is that there really isn't a completely non-partisan news source as each has an agenda backed by the political lean of its investors/owner. </p><p></p><p>FYI... <a href="https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/promise/1402/suspend-immigration-terror-prone-places/" target="_blank">they did count Trump's travel ban as a promise kept.</a> Maybe the numbers aren't as "stupid" as you perceive them to be. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's important to consider the political lean of the writer here. The writer is decidedly conservative. Sure, he admits Trump lies, but he also puts more sugar on what Trump has done than need be. </p><p></p><p>That being said... every president makes campaign promises. Many of these promises are just rhetoric. Some are realistic. But many times, when a president first steps into the Oval Office, they realize that they can't or shouldn't keep campaign promises based on information that they receive while in office. To keep promises just to keep promises is foolish which I think Trump might be doing with his push for "the wall". I believe in strengthening our boarders too, but that goal can be accomplished similarly (or better) by hiring and training a larger force of Boarder Patrol officers as well as structural improvements where needed. Trump is shortsighted with his boarder plan and current pissy fit.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cirrus, post: 178602, member: 10493"] I have not looked too deep into PolitiFact's [URL='https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2018/feb/12/principles-truth-o-meter-politifacts-methodology-i/']process[/URL], but, if genuine, it can be a good resource. The problem is that there really isn't a completely non-partisan news source as each has an agenda backed by the political lean of its investors/owner. FYI... [URL='https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/promise/1402/suspend-immigration-terror-prone-places/']they did count Trump's travel ban as a promise kept.[/URL] Maybe the numbers aren't as "stupid" as you perceive them to be. It's important to consider the political lean of the writer here. The writer is decidedly conservative. Sure, he admits Trump lies, but he also puts more sugar on what Trump has done than need be. That being said... every president makes campaign promises. Many of these promises are just rhetoric. Some are realistic. But many times, when a president first steps into the Oval Office, they realize that they can't or shouldn't keep campaign promises based on information that they receive while in office. To keep promises just to keep promises is foolish which I think Trump might be doing with his push for "the wall". I believe in strengthening our boarders too, but that goal can be accomplished similarly (or better) by hiring and training a larger force of Boarder Patrol officers as well as structural improvements where needed. Trump is shortsighted with his boarder plan and current pissy fit. [/QUOTE]
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