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<blockquote data-quote="Harte" data-source="post: 178639" data-attributes="member: 443"><p>Not one of those things had any effect on his election. After all, they all came out during the campaign, didn't they? Why did he then win?</p><p></p><p>Trump Jr. wasn't "trying to get intel on Hillary" from the Russians. A person that turned out to be a part-time Russian informant approached Trump Jr. claiming to have the dirt. Given that Hillary's campaign not only relied on ACTUAL Russian reports that they even PAID for, I think this amounts to less than a hill of beans, especially considering the Russian only used "dirt on Hillary" to get in the door and actually had other things they wanted to discuss (and nothing about Hillary.)</p><p></p><p>"Lock her up" was a rallying cry, not a promise. Besides, his term ain't over yet.</p><p></p><p>"Hush money to the porn stars?" A perfect example of what I already said concerning what everyone with a brain knew about Trump, even before he declared his intention to run.</p><p></p><p>Trump University was using the same tactics that almost all the for-profit universities were (and are) using. This only came to the eventual conclusion it did because Trump ran for office.</p><p></p><p>Re Cohen, that's just a load of hogwash. Please tell us exactly how Trump lied about any of that and won because of his lie. You're back to paying off porn stars for flings that happened a decade before he declared his candidacy. Again, we already knew all about his hound dogging, but he won anyway didn't he?</p><p></p><p>Your collection of linked claimed lies - total hatchet job. Again, Trump talks like normal people, having not lived his life as a politician.</p><p>If you want, maybe you could pick a few "whoppers" from your link and explain how they helped Trump win but were blatantly false. I didn't see anything there like that. Maybe you do.</p><p></p><p>Harte</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Harte, post: 178639, member: 443"] Not one of those things had any effect on his election. After all, they all came out during the campaign, didn't they? Why did he then win? Trump Jr. wasn't "trying to get intel on Hillary" from the Russians. A person that turned out to be a part-time Russian informant approached Trump Jr. claiming to have the dirt. Given that Hillary's campaign not only relied on ACTUAL Russian reports that they even PAID for, I think this amounts to less than a hill of beans, especially considering the Russian only used "dirt on Hillary" to get in the door and actually had other things they wanted to discuss (and nothing about Hillary.) "Lock her up" was a rallying cry, not a promise. Besides, his term ain't over yet. "Hush money to the porn stars?" A perfect example of what I already said concerning what everyone with a brain knew about Trump, even before he declared his intention to run. Trump University was using the same tactics that almost all the for-profit universities were (and are) using. This only came to the eventual conclusion it did because Trump ran for office. Re Cohen, that's just a load of hogwash. Please tell us exactly how Trump lied about any of that and won because of his lie. You're back to paying off porn stars for flings that happened a decade before he declared his candidacy. Again, we already knew all about his hound dogging, but he won anyway didn't he? Your collection of linked claimed lies - total hatchet job. Again, Trump talks like normal people, having not lived his life as a politician. If you want, maybe you could pick a few "whoppers" from your link and explain how they helped Trump win but were blatantly false. I didn't see anything there like that. Maybe you do. Harte [/QUOTE]
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