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<blockquote data-quote="Phoenix" data-source="post: 498" data-attributes="member: 10"><p><strong>Entropy, from Grayson</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>So basically you are saying that life needs food to live and it has no choice in the matter.</p><p></p><p>Ok, I will grant you that. </p><p></p><p>I would explain that life represent areas of relative negative entropy as understood in the scientific sense.</p><p></p><p>As for the rot organisms being less complex and especially in regards to them being more uniform. Most of the biological diversity is in the insect and worms, and even more in the bacteria and algae.</p><p></p><p>I will not try to refute that when Iron is exposed to water it will oxidate => rust. I also freely acknowledge that moving movable parts will create "wear and tear" which is just the basic mechanical properties of the tensile strength and sheer forces of the application of forces on the chemical structure of the solids. How ever much like the messy room this "decay" is subjective to the observer. </p><p></p><p>If we consider the carbon atoms that go from the soil into a tree. Then the tree becomes chopped down and becomes a table. Then the table experiences wear and tear and is dumped in a dump yard. The the table becomes a shelter for rats, black widows, and termites. Then it becomes soil once more. Each state is merely an arrangement of the atoms. The utility of the atoms is relative to the observer. The termites find it a very useful structure to make their home in as it experiences rot from water damage. The worms find it a very useful state as it becomes soil. Grass growing in the sand then use the atoms again in a useful structure for itself.</p><p></p><p>Actually non living things preserve quite well without external forces. It is actually the external forces that cause things to subjectively decay.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Phoenix, post: 498, member: 10"] [b]Entropy, from Grayson[/b] So basically you are saying that life needs food to live and it has no choice in the matter. Ok, I will grant you that. I would explain that life represent areas of relative negative entropy as understood in the scientific sense. As for the rot organisms being less complex and especially in regards to them being more uniform. Most of the biological diversity is in the insect and worms, and even more in the bacteria and algae. I will not try to refute that when Iron is exposed to water it will oxidate => rust. I also freely acknowledge that moving movable parts will create "wear and tear" which is just the basic mechanical properties of the tensile strength and sheer forces of the application of forces on the chemical structure of the solids. How ever much like the messy room this "decay" is subjective to the observer. If we consider the carbon atoms that go from the soil into a tree. Then the tree becomes chopped down and becomes a table. Then the table experiences wear and tear and is dumped in a dump yard. The the table becomes a shelter for rats, black widows, and termites. Then it becomes soil once more. Each state is merely an arrangement of the atoms. The utility of the atoms is relative to the observer. The termites find it a very useful structure to make their home in as it experiences rot from water damage. The worms find it a very useful state as it becomes soil. Grass growing in the sand then use the atoms again in a useful structure for itself. Actually non living things preserve quite well without external forces. It is actually the external forces that cause things to subjectively decay. [/QUOTE]
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