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<blockquote data-quote="nickrulercreator" data-source="post: 174939" data-attributes="member: 10256"><p>First off, they likely didn't realize it was the Apollo tapes. If you read anything on what happened, you'll read that they were likely shipped to Goddard with other random tapes, and then recycled. They didn't know the tapes were Apollo tapes until years AFTER this occurred. The HBO satellites launched had already been scheduled to launch for a while. These things aren't out of the blue. Companies sign launch contracts months, or even years in advance. The money for those launches had already been set aside. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not buying anything. Unless you can come up with a more credible explanation that has actual evidence to back it up, then your argument falls flat. You're really not looking at things more logically. You're assuming so much. My argument has evidence. There are documents and records stating that these tapes were shipped to X locations on X dates. There is evidence they were recycled because the tapes were present at the location NASA recycled tapes, NASA recycled tapes back in the 80s, and some tapes still exist from that batch. There doesn't have to be some big conspiracy, it could be, and is, just a mistake. It doesn't matter, though, because a lot of the data still exists in copies, like all of the camera footage, audio data, some telemetry data, photos, etc. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What inconsistencies are there, though? NASA simply recycled the tapes, something that was very common at the time in the agency. A batch of Apollo tapes got in there and NASA didn't realize. It's that simple. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Uh, yes there is. NASA had tons of projects important to humanity. They kept plenty of copies of that data on hand as well. They didn't need every tape there that had copies. None of the tapes were damaged. Some were lost simply due to age, misplacement, poor cataloging, or mistaking the tapes for a different one. Some lost tapes were found. Some never found, and these were likely recycled. Many were never lost. NASA isn't the only group to do this either. It was extremely common for any company with old tapes to recycle them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The kind that kept it the data in copies, like NASA. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>BESIDES, all of this doesn't prove anything. Sure, it may show NASA's poor data-keeping, but it doesn't prove we did or didn't land on the Moon. Arguing this as a basis for whether or not we went is useless. I'm not trying to move goalposts. I'm only saying that if you want to discuss the events of the actual landing, arguing how NASA kept its data is not going to get anywhere.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nickrulercreator, post: 174939, member: 10256"] First off, they likely didn't realize it was the Apollo tapes. If you read anything on what happened, you'll read that they were likely shipped to Goddard with other random tapes, and then recycled. They didn't know the tapes were Apollo tapes until years AFTER this occurred. The HBO satellites launched had already been scheduled to launch for a while. These things aren't out of the blue. Companies sign launch contracts months, or even years in advance. The money for those launches had already been set aside. I'm not buying anything. Unless you can come up with a more credible explanation that has actual evidence to back it up, then your argument falls flat. You're really not looking at things more logically. You're assuming so much. My argument has evidence. There are documents and records stating that these tapes were shipped to X locations on X dates. There is evidence they were recycled because the tapes were present at the location NASA recycled tapes, NASA recycled tapes back in the 80s, and some tapes still exist from that batch. There doesn't have to be some big conspiracy, it could be, and is, just a mistake. It doesn't matter, though, because a lot of the data still exists in copies, like all of the camera footage, audio data, some telemetry data, photos, etc. What inconsistencies are there, though? NASA simply recycled the tapes, something that was very common at the time in the agency. A batch of Apollo tapes got in there and NASA didn't realize. It's that simple. Uh, yes there is. NASA had tons of projects important to humanity. They kept plenty of copies of that data on hand as well. They didn't need every tape there that had copies. None of the tapes were damaged. Some were lost simply due to age, misplacement, poor cataloging, or mistaking the tapes for a different one. Some lost tapes were found. Some never found, and these were likely recycled. Many were never lost. NASA isn't the only group to do this either. It was extremely common for any company with old tapes to recycle them. The kind that kept it the data in copies, like NASA. BESIDES, all of this doesn't prove anything. Sure, it may show NASA's poor data-keeping, but it doesn't prove we did or didn't land on the Moon. Arguing this as a basis for whether or not we went is useless. I'm not trying to move goalposts. I'm only saying that if you want to discuss the events of the actual landing, arguing how NASA kept its data is not going to get anywhere. [/QUOTE]
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