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<blockquote data-quote="nickrulercreator" data-source="post: 174945" data-attributes="member: 10256"><p>Would you mind explaining what doesn't sit right? I'm sure it boils down to a few possibilities that can easily be explained.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not sure what you're saying here.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That'd actually be pretty difficult to hide. First, the size of the rocket necessary to even launch the spacecraft(s) to go to the Moon or Mars is insane. Look at the Saturn V: 363 feet tall. It broke 200 decibels when lifting off and could be heard for MILES. <a href="https://www.popsci.com/how-big-rockets-break-apart-buildings" target="_blank">Apollo 4</a> even shattered windows and shook buildings miles away, and I read somewhere (I'll find where) that the launch was even registered on seismometers in New York. I mean, to even put the Saturn V together required the massive <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_Assembly_Building" target="_blank">Vehicle Assembly Building</a>, and anything comparable in size, or any rocket rolling out of it, would be instantly noticeable to the public. It also needs a launch pad that no one could see, even though it would have to be just as big as the rocket. Then you have the number of people that need to construct it. It took thousands upon thousands of people to design and build the Saturn V, and a mission to the Moon or Mars would need similar numbers of people, along with the people required to build the spacecraft itself. They'd know that this wasn't going to be a public mission as it wasn't ever reported in the news, so they'd need to keep it quiet. That'd break out almost instantly. Lastly you'd need to hide both the launch, and the spacecraft(s) from amateur, independent trackers. The launch would be especially difficult, and the spacecraft would probably be noticed very soon by anyone looking into the sky. It'd be one of the brightest objects in the night sky before leaving Earth, and if someone decided to track the spacecraft as it left Earth, they'd easily be able to find out where it was going and report a "mysterious object" heading to the Moon or Mars.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That'd also be extremely difficult, almost to the point of impossible.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well the Russians were tracking each Apollo mission to the Moon, so if something seemed fishy they'd report it to the world. Also, why even fake it to the Russians and the world? Why not just go? What's so impossible about just going to the Moon, whats the need for faking it?</p><p></p><p>And, if we faked it, why didn't the Russians? What stopped them?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Agreed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nickrulercreator, post: 174945, member: 10256"] Would you mind explaining what doesn't sit right? I'm sure it boils down to a few possibilities that can easily be explained. I'm not sure what you're saying here. That'd actually be pretty difficult to hide. First, the size of the rocket necessary to even launch the spacecraft(s) to go to the Moon or Mars is insane. Look at the Saturn V: 363 feet tall. It broke 200 decibels when lifting off and could be heard for MILES. [URL='https://www.popsci.com/how-big-rockets-break-apart-buildings']Apollo 4[/URL] even shattered windows and shook buildings miles away, and I read somewhere (I'll find where) that the launch was even registered on seismometers in New York. I mean, to even put the Saturn V together required the massive [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_Assembly_Building']Vehicle Assembly Building[/URL], and anything comparable in size, or any rocket rolling out of it, would be instantly noticeable to the public. It also needs a launch pad that no one could see, even though it would have to be just as big as the rocket. Then you have the number of people that need to construct it. It took thousands upon thousands of people to design and build the Saturn V, and a mission to the Moon or Mars would need similar numbers of people, along with the people required to build the spacecraft itself. They'd know that this wasn't going to be a public mission as it wasn't ever reported in the news, so they'd need to keep it quiet. That'd break out almost instantly. Lastly you'd need to hide both the launch, and the spacecraft(s) from amateur, independent trackers. The launch would be especially difficult, and the spacecraft would probably be noticed very soon by anyone looking into the sky. It'd be one of the brightest objects in the night sky before leaving Earth, and if someone decided to track the spacecraft as it left Earth, they'd easily be able to find out where it was going and report a "mysterious object" heading to the Moon or Mars. That'd also be extremely difficult, almost to the point of impossible. Well the Russians were tracking each Apollo mission to the Moon, so if something seemed fishy they'd report it to the world. Also, why even fake it to the Russians and the world? Why not just go? What's so impossible about just going to the Moon, whats the need for faking it? And, if we faked it, why didn't the Russians? What stopped them? Agreed. [/QUOTE]
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