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<blockquote data-quote="NaturalPhilosopher" data-source="post: 218803" data-attributes="member: 9562"><p>flat earth stuff is a political movement...they don't like discussing flat earth phenomena or science of it but rather the conspiracy side.</p><p></p><p>there's a handful of interesting flat earth data points but they over-reach in their conclusions.</p><p>most people over-reach in conspiracy conclusions.</p><p></p><p>they only give tesla-scalar tech an honorable mention but nothing else.</p><p>they don't understand it</p><p></p><p>most of their arguments are really bad.</p><p></p><p>1)can't hear anyone at the equator cuz earth is spinning 1000mph there if the earth was round(air is also moving 1000mph they seem to forget there's a vaccum in space, air is moving 1000mph too).</p><p></p><p>2)gyroscope experiment showing no tilt as they fly a gyroscope 90degrees around earth(tilted to their surprise, wouldn't on a flat earth)</p><p></p><p>3)density of air and water as reason for gravity. This is a major error cuz it's not only density differences but GRADIENT of air and water why airbubbles or balloons fall upwards. GRADIENT of density is only created by gravity(SERIOUS physics mistake)</p><p></p><p>4)seeing over the curvature of earth. Could be explained by thermal layers refracting light but there's another explanation. At vortex locations you get bending of light called the 'shrink & grow' effect. Whole earth is creating a planetary sized vortex. Also why when time traveling you don't end up stranded in outer space. Earth is moving.</p><p></p><p>5)strange airplane flight paths and flight durations. Like cellphone companies that have mapped all the 'anomalous' zones where you cannot get a cellphone signal in and out so have the airline industry mapped high altitude vortexes. They also know timespace dynamics and have to take varied flightpaths rather than just straight paths across the ocean. This was witnessed by a gentleman over the bermuda triangle. Was flying over bimini, saw a small tunnel in a giant thunderstorm cloud that extended from the water to high altitude. Flew through it and suddenly found himself within a minute over miami a 100miles away.</p><p></p><p>Viktor Grebennikov's flying bug platform noticed an anomaly as well. When flying east he would time travel into the past, when going west into the future. Shows the timespace dynamics across a planetary wide vortex.</p><p></p><p>6)triangulating lightbeam paths from the sun through clouds to a point 3,000 miles away in the sky with a diameter of 35miles. This dovetails with my own research. Like what Eric Dollard says...you cannot see the sun or stars in free space. It's true. They emanate invisible light that is converted to visible by the planets, spacestations, moon, etc. Can easily see the moon, earth, planets and man made objects. Dollard said the 'earth envelope(ionosphere)</p><p>converts the invisible light to visible. So the flat earthers are correct, the stars and sun are embedded in the 'firmanent'.</p><p></p><p>Flat earthers stumbled upon timespace dynamics.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NaturalPhilosopher, post: 218803, member: 9562"] flat earth stuff is a political movement...they don't like discussing flat earth phenomena or science of it but rather the conspiracy side. there's a handful of interesting flat earth data points but they over-reach in their conclusions. most people over-reach in conspiracy conclusions. they only give tesla-scalar tech an honorable mention but nothing else. they don't understand it most of their arguments are really bad. 1)can't hear anyone at the equator cuz earth is spinning 1000mph there if the earth was round(air is also moving 1000mph they seem to forget there's a vaccum in space, air is moving 1000mph too). 2)gyroscope experiment showing no tilt as they fly a gyroscope 90degrees around earth(tilted to their surprise, wouldn't on a flat earth) 3)density of air and water as reason for gravity. This is a major error cuz it's not only density differences but GRADIENT of air and water why airbubbles or balloons fall upwards. GRADIENT of density is only created by gravity(SERIOUS physics mistake) 4)seeing over the curvature of earth. Could be explained by thermal layers refracting light but there's another explanation. At vortex locations you get bending of light called the 'shrink & grow' effect. Whole earth is creating a planetary sized vortex. Also why when time traveling you don't end up stranded in outer space. Earth is moving. 5)strange airplane flight paths and flight durations. Like cellphone companies that have mapped all the 'anomalous' zones where you cannot get a cellphone signal in and out so have the airline industry mapped high altitude vortexes. They also know timespace dynamics and have to take varied flightpaths rather than just straight paths across the ocean. This was witnessed by a gentleman over the bermuda triangle. Was flying over bimini, saw a small tunnel in a giant thunderstorm cloud that extended from the water to high altitude. Flew through it and suddenly found himself within a minute over miami a 100miles away. Viktor Grebennikov's flying bug platform noticed an anomaly as well. When flying east he would time travel into the past, when going west into the future. Shows the timespace dynamics across a planetary wide vortex. 6)triangulating lightbeam paths from the sun through clouds to a point 3,000 miles away in the sky with a diameter of 35miles. This dovetails with my own research. Like what Eric Dollard says...you cannot see the sun or stars in free space. It's true. They emanate invisible light that is converted to visible by the planets, spacestations, moon, etc. Can easily see the moon, earth, planets and man made objects. Dollard said the 'earth envelope(ionosphere) converts the invisible light to visible. So the flat earthers are correct, the stars and sun are embedded in the 'firmanent'. Flat earthers stumbled upon timespace dynamics. [/QUOTE]
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