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<blockquote data-quote="HeraldOfTruth" data-source="post: 198790" data-attributes="member: 12638"><p>I am glad that a proper discussion on this topic is beginning. I lean mostly to the left, but I do agree with your first two points and a bit with your fourth. As far as Trump being victimized however, he has done far more of the same to a whole lot of people... he has no right to complain about the attacks against him after the way he has attacked any politician who disagrees with or contradicts him.</p><p></p><p>As far as Russia goes, it is not so clear cut as to his guilt being yay or nay. He has a lot of personal ties to Russia. I’m not saying he did, but I’m not saying he didn’t either. It’s possible either way, especially after how public he was about Ukraine.</p><p></p><p>For unemployment, I do believe I already posted those stats on TTI. Obama did most of the startup work, and Trump finished it off. He had a hand in it, but he was not solely responsible for it.</p><p></p><p>However, do the good things he has done outweigh the bad? Nobody is perfect, but Trump has made a lot of mistakes. I could stomach most of them, but people are dying because of his choices.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HeraldOfTruth, post: 198790, member: 12638"] I am glad that a proper discussion on this topic is beginning. I lean mostly to the left, but I do agree with your first two points and a bit with your fourth. As far as Trump being victimized however, he has done far more of the same to a whole lot of people... he has no right to complain about the attacks against him after the way he has attacked any politician who disagrees with or contradicts him. As far as Russia goes, it is not so clear cut as to his guilt being yay or nay. He has a lot of personal ties to Russia. I’m not saying he did, but I’m not saying he didn’t either. It’s possible either way, especially after how public he was about Ukraine. For unemployment, I do believe I already posted those stats on TTI. Obama did most of the startup work, and Trump finished it off. He had a hand in it, but he was not solely responsible for it. However, do the good things he has done outweigh the bad? Nobody is perfect, but Trump has made a lot of mistakes. I could stomach most of them, but people are dying because of his choices. [/QUOTE]
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