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<blockquote data-quote="start at edge" data-source="post: 195411" data-attributes="member: 11971"><p>It seems that judicial systems are screwed up everywhere, almost by definition. A long time ago it probably was much simpler, but the world and life was much simpler as well. Lots of nations copied their judicial system from the Romans, as at the beginning it probably fitted into a few pages. Over the centuries everything became so much more complicated that in our days it does not fit into an entire library. We are living in a time not to be envied by anyone.</p><p>I do not know how this works in the U.S., I’m assuming that the “not guilty” verdict refers to the specific charge of FDM, because if it refers to the entire case and the charged one is not found guilty of anything and dismissed, then public unrest will definitely be not only an additional one but more likely a total chaos.</p><p>From my point of view, a much more simplified procedure would be to set the charges (or multiple charges) at their maximum (or minimum) in the same trial even before the case begins in court, and let the judge decrease (or increase) each charge to the right level, providing of course that the judge is not connected to anything related to politics … because if he is, that is not justice anymore, it is politics. Then there is the jury – if a trial has severe implications in anything related to politics, then it is not only possible, but most likely that the jury could be manipulated. Either way, it is clear now that this particular situation, along with many other situations, does not target that particular cop, but the entire apparatus and all the ramifications involved (which, again, seem to lead to politics). Politics is a dirty bitch, everywhere … it always was.</p><p>I am not sure about that pre-existing relationship with the victim issue. There were a lot of cases when the killer committed murder without knowing or previously being in contact with the victim, yet it was premeditated. I think that premeditation actually means that the murder was planned and such planning can be only a few minutes prior to the murder. For example from inside a restaurant the killer followed the victim (whom he first time saw only then and there at the restaurant) to the parking lot and committed murder, not even knowing the victim’s name – that is not by accident or negligence – it is planned, therefore premeditated. At least this is how it sounds correct and logical to me … but like you mentioned, in a screwed up judicial system there is always room for a lot of interpretation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="start at edge, post: 195411, member: 11971"] It seems that judicial systems are screwed up everywhere, almost by definition. A long time ago it probably was much simpler, but the world and life was much simpler as well. Lots of nations copied their judicial system from the Romans, as at the beginning it probably fitted into a few pages. Over the centuries everything became so much more complicated that in our days it does not fit into an entire library. We are living in a time not to be envied by anyone. I do not know how this works in the U.S., I’m assuming that the “not guilty” verdict refers to the specific charge of FDM, because if it refers to the entire case and the charged one is not found guilty of anything and dismissed, then public unrest will definitely be not only an additional one but more likely a total chaos. From my point of view, a much more simplified procedure would be to set the charges (or multiple charges) at their maximum (or minimum) in the same trial even before the case begins in court, and let the judge decrease (or increase) each charge to the right level, providing of course that the judge is not connected to anything related to politics … because if he is, that is not justice anymore, it is politics. Then there is the jury – if a trial has severe implications in anything related to politics, then it is not only possible, but most likely that the jury could be manipulated. Either way, it is clear now that this particular situation, along with many other situations, does not target that particular cop, but the entire apparatus and all the ramifications involved (which, again, seem to lead to politics). Politics is a dirty bitch, everywhere … it always was. I am not sure about that pre-existing relationship with the victim issue. There were a lot of cases when the killer committed murder without knowing or previously being in contact with the victim, yet it was premeditated. I think that premeditation actually means that the murder was planned and such planning can be only a few minutes prior to the murder. For example from inside a restaurant the killer followed the victim (whom he first time saw only then and there at the restaurant) to the parking lot and committed murder, not even knowing the victim’s name – that is not by accident or negligence – it is planned, therefore premeditated. At least this is how it sounds correct and logical to me … but like you mentioned, in a screwed up judicial system there is always room for a lot of interpretation. [/QUOTE]
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