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<blockquote data-quote="Kairos" data-source="post: 177030" data-attributes="member: 10263"><p>A few things to support the notion that (granting the hypothetical existence of these creatures) they must necessarily come from the Earth or not be biological creatures. </p><p></p><p>1) they are humanoid creatures, either a kind of hominid or the creation of hominids.</p><p>2) If biological aliens actually set food on the Earth, they would contaminate our biosphere possibly forever. There would be no hiding it. The evidence of contact would be manifest and quite obvious. But that has not happened. </p><p>3) We do not actually know if time travel is possible, but neither do we have any idea whether it is easier to travel through time than it is to travel great distances across space. We have some idea of how to travel across space, and we know the costs (which are pretty steep if we use something like the Orion Drive). It's possible that traveling through time could be cheap relative to that, which would greatly increase the probability of our observing time travelers before we observed aliens. </p><p>4) We do not know exactly how life begins from organic matter. Thus we have no idea what the probability is that life emerges on another world. We have no idea what the probability is that an alien biosphere will evolve intelligent species, and even then the probability that the intelligent species will be a technological species like our own. The probability could be so remote that time travel becomes a far better explanation (again, assuming there is anything to this).</p><p>5) Zero-one law dictates that if time travel is possible, then there is a very good chance they at least briefly travel through our time.</p><p></p><p>The idea that biological aliens have ever been here strikes me as silly beyond belief. Not saying the above doesn't sound silly too, but I am starting with the assumption that these things are real in the first place.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kairos, post: 177030, member: 10263"] A few things to support the notion that (granting the hypothetical existence of these creatures) they must necessarily come from the Earth or not be biological creatures. 1) they are humanoid creatures, either a kind of hominid or the creation of hominids. 2) If biological aliens actually set food on the Earth, they would contaminate our biosphere possibly forever. There would be no hiding it. The evidence of contact would be manifest and quite obvious. But that has not happened. 3) We do not actually know if time travel is possible, but neither do we have any idea whether it is easier to travel through time than it is to travel great distances across space. We have some idea of how to travel across space, and we know the costs (which are pretty steep if we use something like the Orion Drive). It's possible that traveling through time could be cheap relative to that, which would greatly increase the probability of our observing time travelers before we observed aliens. 4) We do not know exactly how life begins from organic matter. Thus we have no idea what the probability is that life emerges on another world. We have no idea what the probability is that an alien biosphere will evolve intelligent species, and even then the probability that the intelligent species will be a technological species like our own. The probability could be so remote that time travel becomes a far better explanation (again, assuming there is anything to this). 5) Zero-one law dictates that if time travel is possible, then there is a very good chance they at least briefly travel through our time. The idea that biological aliens have ever been here strikes me as silly beyond belief. Not saying the above doesn't sound silly too, but I am starting with the assumption that these things are real in the first place. [/QUOTE]
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