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Has anyone found any info of an ET/Time traveler explanation of the MANDELA EFFECT?
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<blockquote data-quote="vortex-T217" data-source="post: 145567" data-attributes="member: 8780"><p>You have a very good way of explaining the possibilities of this! I was thinking something along these lines as well. Although I just have a question or 2 in order fully understand exactly what you mean. </p><p></p><p>First of all though.. In your view what do you class as a near death experience in this case? are you referring to someone almost dying and having a out of body experience that they don't totally remember and then ends up in the collided world line but they returned to the same exact physical body from the world line they were at before the near death experience, and almost like a teleportation to the new world line occurs because of it?</p><p></p><p>.... or could this type of near death experience mean you would actually have to physically die with out being returned to the same exact physical body you were just at before the "near death" and out of body experience, and that your spirit consciousness that left the body kinda joined forces, as one, with your other consciousness in the other world line that collided? I mean since in this case it would be as if you had really died but wake up to a similar situation that you left off to before you died with out being conscious of it. or at least not with complete recollection. It would be like dying but not really dying and it's contradicting.</p><p></p><p>or is this just a "consciousness switch" where our current "sub-spirit" made the switch of "vehicles" with our other sub-spirit in one of the collided world lines? which could be triggered by someone's experiences of voluntary or involuntary acts of distorting the fabric of time and space around them (which actually is more common then most could imagine) or an event like a near death experience, to cause the shift.</p><p></p><p>I can also say that from my experience, I also have it where I remember certain events happening 2 different ways from the original way, 2 different memories of it. Just like you had said sometimes the memories are cloudy though and not always staying as clear of both events and only sometimes. but it's hard to explain. I have also had a few intense experiences that could have been near death experiences where I was very close to dying (not like almost getting hit by a bus and dying but I mean where I was out of my mind with loss of memory and my organs were ready to fail type of close call) but at those times I never remembered having the type of near death experience where I remember my spirit floating out of my body and going to any lights or anything like the classic ones we hear about in the mainstream. So it's not really confirmed if I had yet actually died and came back or not.</p><p></p><p>I remember a while ago when the first time I heard the theory that "credible" scientists now believe that when we die we go to parallel universes! When I read that, it was roughly like a week or 2 before that where I had a real close call to dying and for some reason after that I wouldn't stop questioning why there felt to be something really strange about it and how everything felt weird and different after that, yet in appearance at first glance, the same. I think this was roughly about a year ago when that happened.</p><p></p><p>So are you saying there are only 3-4 credible cases of people that have memories of the same event happening 2 different ways from the one starting way? that must be what you mean because there is definitely more than 3 or 4 people that are legitimately experiencing these shifts with the mandela effect! or at least the last time I checked there was! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite38" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Another thing is, lets just say there really is multiple world lines existing simultaneously to the one we are at. Then that would mean we have more then one spirit, more than one consciousness existing at the same time. "copy spirits" of our current physical experience... so what about when a NDE experiencer claims they went through a light tunnel and talked to an entity that said they needed a few more check marks on the list and needs to go back down to earth to do some more good deeds before they can stay with collective love in a realm? Would each sub-spirit evolve and reincarnate individually into different people or characters in different time periods as reincarnation has always traditionally has said to be. or do the sub-spirits eventually join together and merge into one and then after all that we get to choose a new character so to speak for reincarnation?</p><p></p><p>Now in relation to what I said, as for these near death experiencers! Here is the ultimate question or at least for me it is and wondering about it still kind of haunts me to this day!!</p><p></p><p>Is it possible that with out them knowing it that they didn't get sent back to the exact same copy of earth and that their loved ones and family in the old earth don't experience the NDE'r coming back to life to earth but instead the family members experience the NDE'r just dead and gone??</p><p></p><p>If the mandela effect was really people dying and not really remembering the full extent of the death occurring and if that were really true then i'd feel pretty uneasy if I knew my family were grieving over my death in an alternate world line or not even just dying but if I just suddenly popped over to a new earth and just suddenly disappeared out of nowhere from the old earth and everyone was lookin for me. that would suck too. I'm actually hoping for it being more so just a consciousness switch type of deal!</p><p></p><p>but yeah you gotta good theory on this! and I hope my words are not too confusing because sometimes I don't even know how to explain what I mean lol</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="vortex-T217, post: 145567, member: 8780"] You have a very good way of explaining the possibilities of this! I was thinking something along these lines as well. Although I just have a question or 2 in order fully understand exactly what you mean. First of all though.. In your view what do you class as a near death experience in this case? are you referring to someone almost dying and having a out of body experience that they don't totally remember and then ends up in the collided world line but they returned to the same exact physical body from the world line they were at before the near death experience, and almost like a teleportation to the new world line occurs because of it? .... or could this type of near death experience mean you would actually have to physically die with out being returned to the same exact physical body you were just at before the "near death" and out of body experience, and that your spirit consciousness that left the body kinda joined forces, as one, with your other consciousness in the other world line that collided? I mean since in this case it would be as if you had really died but wake up to a similar situation that you left off to before you died with out being conscious of it. or at least not with complete recollection. It would be like dying but not really dying and it's contradicting. or is this just a "consciousness switch" where our current "sub-spirit" made the switch of "vehicles" with our other sub-spirit in one of the collided world lines? which could be triggered by someone's experiences of voluntary or involuntary acts of distorting the fabric of time and space around them (which actually is more common then most could imagine) or an event like a near death experience, to cause the shift. I can also say that from my experience, I also have it where I remember certain events happening 2 different ways from the original way, 2 different memories of it. Just like you had said sometimes the memories are cloudy though and not always staying as clear of both events and only sometimes. but it's hard to explain. I have also had a few intense experiences that could have been near death experiences where I was very close to dying (not like almost getting hit by a bus and dying but I mean where I was out of my mind with loss of memory and my organs were ready to fail type of close call) but at those times I never remembered having the type of near death experience where I remember my spirit floating out of my body and going to any lights or anything like the classic ones we hear about in the mainstream. So it's not really confirmed if I had yet actually died and came back or not. I remember a while ago when the first time I heard the theory that "credible" scientists now believe that when we die we go to parallel universes! When I read that, it was roughly like a week or 2 before that where I had a real close call to dying and for some reason after that I wouldn't stop questioning why there felt to be something really strange about it and how everything felt weird and different after that, yet in appearance at first glance, the same. I think this was roughly about a year ago when that happened. So are you saying there are only 3-4 credible cases of people that have memories of the same event happening 2 different ways from the one starting way? that must be what you mean because there is definitely more than 3 or 4 people that are legitimately experiencing these shifts with the mandela effect! or at least the last time I checked there was! :) Another thing is, lets just say there really is multiple world lines existing simultaneously to the one we are at. Then that would mean we have more then one spirit, more than one consciousness existing at the same time. "copy spirits" of our current physical experience... so what about when a NDE experiencer claims they went through a light tunnel and talked to an entity that said they needed a few more check marks on the list and needs to go back down to earth to do some more good deeds before they can stay with collective love in a realm? Would each sub-spirit evolve and reincarnate individually into different people or characters in different time periods as reincarnation has always traditionally has said to be. or do the sub-spirits eventually join together and merge into one and then after all that we get to choose a new character so to speak for reincarnation? Now in relation to what I said, as for these near death experiencers! Here is the ultimate question or at least for me it is and wondering about it still kind of haunts me to this day!! Is it possible that with out them knowing it that they didn't get sent back to the exact same copy of earth and that their loved ones and family in the old earth don't experience the NDE'r coming back to life to earth but instead the family members experience the NDE'r just dead and gone?? If the mandela effect was really people dying and not really remembering the full extent of the death occurring and if that were really true then i'd feel pretty uneasy if I knew my family were grieving over my death in an alternate world line or not even just dying but if I just suddenly popped over to a new earth and just suddenly disappeared out of nowhere from the old earth and everyone was lookin for me. that would suck too. I'm actually hoping for it being more so just a consciousness switch type of deal! but yeah you gotta good theory on this! and I hope my words are not too confusing because sometimes I don't even know how to explain what I mean lol [/QUOTE]
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