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Have You Considered What You LOSE By Knowing the Future?
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<blockquote data-quote="temporal recon" data-source="post: 63329" data-attributes="member: 2826"><p>If we are to discuss this within a religious context, God is infallible and provided the information for His own purposes. John is a man and is fallible and flawed, as much as "we" are loathe to admit it.</p><p> </p><p>The propensity to put Titor and other real time travelers on a pedestal simply by virtue of the fact they have access to a piece of equipment that allows them to "see the future" is, in my humble opinion, wrong-headed.</p><p>Do we put weathermen on a pedestal because they can look into the future as well? Do we wish a weatherman will tell us more, oh more, about what tomorrow will bring because they have access to the C204 Doppler Radar System? Of course not because we recognize them for what they are: A man with education, training and access to special equipment.</p><p> </p><p>If we are to look into the time travel question (as a whole), we <em>must </em>keep things in perspective. They are not psychics. They are not Gods. They are not supernatural. They are men. Men with machines. Men with machines from our future. Nothing more.</p><p> </p><p>Getting back to the original point of the thread:</p><p>So what level of responsibility do Time Travellers have to <u>us</u> that they DO NOT tell us our own future? To ALLOW us to live our lives as WE see fit? Allow for our OWN self determination, our own right to our own decisions in life.</p><p> </p><p>@Titorite:</p><p>I believe that your statement could be its own discussion thread:</p><p><em>With the likelihood of multiple World Theory being an accurate description of the universe, how does a man's self determination integrate into the larger multi-verse with an infinite number of "yous" making decisions? </em></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>In a discussion I had with her some time ago, Linda Moulton Howe disagreed with the MulitVerse view because it invalidates free will. I say it does not. It does not because Howe finds separateness where there is none. All those alternate "yous" on all these alternate world lines <em>are still you.</em> But this digresses into an interesting, more esoteric aspect of time travel and is something I have also been researching and exploring. I would welcome a discussion on this aspect if anyone cares to follow up.</p><p> </p><p>You also said:</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>The purpose of my question is to ask:</p><p> </p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: #ff9900"><strong><em>What <u>right</u> does a Time Traveller to take those experiences away from you and replace them with others?</em></strong></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> <p style="text-align: left">Does this imply the massive responsibility a TT'er has in his job description? I imagine the Law of Unintended Consequences likely figures large here.</p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> <p style="text-align: left">Delving a bit deeper into your statement:</p><p></p><p>Actually, my friend, no it doesn't (respectfully).</p><p>Why? Because in a MWI Multi-verse, <em>both options are acted/not acted upon. </em>At the point of contemplating the choice, <u>both choices are made.</u> Being limited to only one universe, you only perceive one of the choice's outcomes.</p><p> </p><p>The universe is a magical place, unfortunately, much of that magic happens behind the scenes and all we can do is infer its presence. </p><p>Phi anyone?</p><p> </p><p>As Ever</p><p>Temporal Recon</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="temporal recon, post: 63329, member: 2826"] If we are to discuss this within a religious context, God is infallible and provided the information for His own purposes. John is a man and is fallible and flawed, as much as "we" are loathe to admit it. The propensity to put Titor and other real time travelers on a pedestal simply by virtue of the fact they have access to a piece of equipment that allows them to "see the future" is, in my humble opinion, wrong-headed. Do we put weathermen on a pedestal because they can look into the future as well? Do we wish a weatherman will tell us more, oh more, about what tomorrow will bring because they have access to the C204 Doppler Radar System? Of course not because we recognize them for what they are: A man with education, training and access to special equipment. If we are to look into the time travel question (as a whole), we [I]must [/I]keep things in perspective. They are not psychics. They are not Gods. They are not supernatural. They are men. Men with machines. Men with machines from our future. Nothing more. Getting back to the original point of the thread: So what level of responsibility do Time Travellers have to [U]us[/U] that they DO NOT tell us our own future? To ALLOW us to live our lives as WE see fit? Allow for our OWN self determination, our own right to our own decisions in life. @Titorite: I believe that your statement could be its own discussion thread: [I]With the likelihood of multiple World Theory being an accurate description of the universe, how does a man's self determination integrate into the larger multi-verse with an infinite number of "yous" making decisions? [/I] In a discussion I had with her some time ago, Linda Moulton Howe disagreed with the MulitVerse view because it invalidates free will. I say it does not. It does not because Howe finds separateness where there is none. All those alternate "yous" on all these alternate world lines [I]are still you.[/I] But this digresses into an interesting, more esoteric aspect of time travel and is something I have also been researching and exploring. I would welcome a discussion on this aspect if anyone cares to follow up. You also said: The purpose of my question is to ask: [CENTER][COLOR=#ff9900][B][I]What [U]right[/U] does a Time Traveller to take those experiences away from you and replace them with others?[/I][/B][/COLOR][/CENTER] [LEFT] [/LEFT] [LEFT]Does this imply the massive responsibility a TT'er has in his job description? I imagine the Law of Unintended Consequences likely figures large here.[/LEFT] [LEFT] [/LEFT] [LEFT]Delving a bit deeper into your statement:[/LEFT] Actually, my friend, no it doesn't (respectfully). Why? Because in a MWI Multi-verse, [I]both options are acted/not acted upon. [/I]At the point of contemplating the choice, [U]both choices are made.[/U] Being limited to only one universe, you only perceive one of the choice's outcomes. The universe is a magical place, unfortunately, much of that magic happens behind the scenes and all we can do is infer its presence. Phi anyone? As Ever Temporal Recon [/QUOTE]
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