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<blockquote data-quote="paradox404" data-source="post: 76893" data-attributes="member: 4523"><p>I probably worded my response wrong then. Also I understand what a prototype is, I have sat through hours of classes on what they are. A prototype is a version a product that is mainly a device that is made before the product is ready for mass production, such a product is created for testing for issues with the design and if it is software then bugs are tested for as well. The government in this worldline is paranoid about us knowing too much, <strong>just like in 1984</strong>. After having a think about it, I realized that this worldline is already a dystopia, again just like 1984, for example you don't like the propaganda forced shoved down your throat, tough, you get thrown in prison, or you get called a "Racist" and get labeled as committing a hate crime or some other BS. The regime you refer to is also evident in this era, just not as bad, yet, with the advancements of computers we carry them around with us every day, and all of this is making us dumber and dumber, and with ad programing we are being brainwashed to accept all this surveillance BS. Is like what happened on your worldline?</p><p></p><p>That was a very good explanation on time, some of the things I didn't think of. I agree that is likely that a worldline with 100% divergence probably won't exist (Because such a worldline would probably cause other worldlines to not exist, which isn't the case, thus that universe wouldn't exist), but it is very possible that a worldine with 99.9% divergence to exist, think of the big bang itself, there are possibilities that it doesn't exist and the universe was created by some other thing or entity. Also, assuming that the big bang created the universe, the power of the bang itself can determine if the universe forms into the galaxies and into star systems with life and thus creating us. If the big bang had more power then it would have failed to fall back and create the first stars and then the proto-galaxies; if it less power the universe would have fallen back onto itself soon after the bang. Also there are possibilities that the a worldline has no gravity and is filled with antimatter. There will be worldlines where I would be you and you would be me. Basically what I am saying is that there is worldines (And attractor fields) where the WW3 doesn't happen. Also there would be worldlines where humans destroy the earth through time travel and find that the earth's history doesn't occur elsewhere, and I think that the "Mechanism" would destroy around half of the worldline that get caught in it (Based on a Yes/No outcome, although the time, location and other variables would be different in the Worldline's destruction, but would land on either outcome, being 'Does the Universe get destroyed by the paradox? Yes or No?'.). This would mean there would still be a "You" in the other attractor field.</p><p></p><p>As for the "Central Worldline", yes it is quite likely that there is one, but I doubt that either of ours would be it it, however yours would probably be closer to the center of our attractor field, In fact I think that our attractor field would be a fair way off.</p><p></p><p>I agree that certain events will be fixed, but this would be because of the attractor fields, though the fixed points are referred to as "Divergence Points", as these would determine the outcome of that attractor field. Events on different attractor fields wouldn't necessarily be fixed.</p><p></p><p>As for the universe being based divergence, that is very important, and would probably be very bad if it gets over 20% due to the gravitational and chemical bonds being very fragile. (But then again that might be very diiferent on different worldlines.) When I guess on divergences I refer to a different scale of divergence which I call the "Earth Divergence", which is differences between a events on a TT's worldline and the one they end up on. Also it is likely that the Universe Divergence will have an effect on the Earth Divergence. Basically a planet with life will have have it's own divergence spectrum, with 100% being that the planet either doesn't exist or the species never evolved.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The people that cause the WWCW on this worldline have a sacred building, if one was to go back and destroy it, perhaps shortly after it's completion, then that would change the timeline enough to either prevent or delay a world war or a World Wide Civil war. (Please note that a WW3 and a WWCW are two completely different things, a WWCV involves most/all countries in the world at war with themselves, which sounds like what Aevi was referring to)</p><p></p><p>If you do get the time machine working I would seriously love to send a letter to myself in 1997, and to physically go back in time.</p><p></p><p>Although if I do get the chance to have a time machine or to use one I'd go back to the divergence points of my worldline. (I think two are somewhere in the 1950's, all I can remember of the top of my head is that it is shortly after WW2. The other one is in the 6th century, but I would only go there if the other divergence point won't change the worldline enough.) If they can be changed enough <strong>the resulting world IS a utopia,</strong> I have had the chance to see it with my ability.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Even if a John Titor came back here, it wouldn't be the same one that left in 2001, due to the leaving point being different and thus a different divergence unless he found a way to keep the same divergence amount for when he comes back. Basically I don't think he's coming back.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="paradox404, post: 76893, member: 4523"] I probably worded my response wrong then. Also I understand what a prototype is, I have sat through hours of classes on what they are. A prototype is a version a product that is mainly a device that is made before the product is ready for mass production, such a product is created for testing for issues with the design and if it is software then bugs are tested for as well. The government in this worldline is paranoid about us knowing too much, [B]just like in 1984[/B]. After having a think about it, I realized that this worldline is already a dystopia, again just like 1984, for example you don't like the propaganda forced shoved down your throat, tough, you get thrown in prison, or you get called a "Racist" and get labeled as committing a hate crime or some other BS. The regime you refer to is also evident in this era, just not as bad, yet, with the advancements of computers we carry them around with us every day, and all of this is making us dumber and dumber, and with ad programing we are being brainwashed to accept all this surveillance BS. Is like what happened on your worldline? That was a very good explanation on time, some of the things I didn't think of. I agree that is likely that a worldline with 100% divergence probably won't exist (Because such a worldline would probably cause other worldlines to not exist, which isn't the case, thus that universe wouldn't exist), but it is very possible that a worldine with 99.9% divergence to exist, think of the big bang itself, there are possibilities that it doesn't exist and the universe was created by some other thing or entity. Also, assuming that the big bang created the universe, the power of the bang itself can determine if the universe forms into the galaxies and into star systems with life and thus creating us. If the big bang had more power then it would have failed to fall back and create the first stars and then the proto-galaxies; if it less power the universe would have fallen back onto itself soon after the bang. Also there are possibilities that the a worldline has no gravity and is filled with antimatter. There will be worldlines where I would be you and you would be me. Basically what I am saying is that there is worldines (And attractor fields) where the WW3 doesn't happen. Also there would be worldlines where humans destroy the earth through time travel and find that the earth's history doesn't occur elsewhere, and I think that the "Mechanism" would destroy around half of the worldline that get caught in it (Based on a Yes/No outcome, although the time, location and other variables would be different in the Worldline's destruction, but would land on either outcome, being 'Does the Universe get destroyed by the paradox? Yes or No?'.). This would mean there would still be a "You" in the other attractor field. As for the "Central Worldline", yes it is quite likely that there is one, but I doubt that either of ours would be it it, however yours would probably be closer to the center of our attractor field, In fact I think that our attractor field would be a fair way off. I agree that certain events will be fixed, but this would be because of the attractor fields, though the fixed points are referred to as "Divergence Points", as these would determine the outcome of that attractor field. Events on different attractor fields wouldn't necessarily be fixed. As for the universe being based divergence, that is very important, and would probably be very bad if it gets over 20% due to the gravitational and chemical bonds being very fragile. (But then again that might be very diiferent on different worldlines.) When I guess on divergences I refer to a different scale of divergence which I call the "Earth Divergence", which is differences between a events on a TT's worldline and the one they end up on. Also it is likely that the Universe Divergence will have an effect on the Earth Divergence. Basically a planet with life will have have it's own divergence spectrum, with 100% being that the planet either doesn't exist or the species never evolved. The people that cause the WWCW on this worldline have a sacred building, if one was to go back and destroy it, perhaps shortly after it's completion, then that would change the timeline enough to either prevent or delay a world war or a World Wide Civil war. (Please note that a WW3 and a WWCW are two completely different things, a WWCV involves most/all countries in the world at war with themselves, which sounds like what Aevi was referring to) If you do get the time machine working I would seriously love to send a letter to myself in 1997, and to physically go back in time. Although if I do get the chance to have a time machine or to use one I'd go back to the divergence points of my worldline. (I think two are somewhere in the 1950's, all I can remember of the top of my head is that it is shortly after WW2. The other one is in the 6th century, but I would only go there if the other divergence point won't change the worldline enough.) If they can be changed enough [B]the resulting world IS a utopia,[/B] I have had the chance to see it with my ability. Even if a John Titor came back here, it wouldn't be the same one that left in 2001, due to the leaving point being different and thus a different divergence unless he found a way to keep the same divergence amount for when he comes back. Basically I don't think he's coming back. [/QUOTE]
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