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<blockquote data-quote="Zoomerz" data-source="post: 25357" data-attributes="member: 390"><p><strong>Re: If the Universe Spun</strong></p><p></p><p>Denbo;</p><p></p><p>I think a good summation of this debate would be so say that you "believe", and I don't. I too have theories about life, and almost any other topic, as do you. That's fine.</p><p></p><p>Neither of us discounts experiential evidence. The difference is, you choose to interpret a theoretical explanation as fact, and I don't. You are correct that science continually re-evaluates itself, it's methods, and it's conclusions. It does so freely and without possessiveness. In fact, it does so by design and constant challenge. The old sciences you claim are continually debunked are theories, not facts. Theories are meant (by design) to be debunked or proven correct. My personal experience and sense of logic leads me to accept this methodology. It doesn't always make me right, but I have found it to be a much more accurate and assuring platform to live my life by. I respect your right to live by faith and belief.</p><p></p><p>For thousands of years man "believed" the earth was flat, because that was his experience and interpretation. Science proved that wrong, and I could throw many more of those at you (and prove them scientifically) than you could throw back. It does no good.</p><p></p><p>I thought of another good analogy that helps explain my point that interpretations of the causes and effect of experiential evidence can be very misleading....A magician (as we know) uses various techniques to fool the viewer. To the viewer, when the magician puts the woman into the box and levitates it, then poof, he opens the box and the woman is gone, the "experience" is that he made her disappear. Of course, we all know he didn't. There was a trick involved.</p><p></p><p>Science would demand to know how the trick worked. Science would seek to understand the cause and effect in definable terms. Until it could do so, it would develop "theories" as to what actually occurred. However, to the viewer, it would simply look as though the woman actually disappeared, and there would be some that would go home "believing" that that's the only explanation. After all, they saw it with their own eyes.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, I respect your right to believe. I will continue to call your beliefs "theories", and you will continue to believe they are facts. That's fine with me.</p><p></p><p>Regards!</p><p>Z-</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zoomerz, post: 25357, member: 390"] [b]Re: If the Universe Spun[/b] Denbo; I think a good summation of this debate would be so say that you "believe", and I don't. I too have theories about life, and almost any other topic, as do you. That's fine. Neither of us discounts experiential evidence. The difference is, you choose to interpret a theoretical explanation as fact, and I don't. You are correct that science continually re-evaluates itself, it's methods, and it's conclusions. It does so freely and without possessiveness. In fact, it does so by design and constant challenge. The old sciences you claim are continually debunked are theories, not facts. Theories are meant (by design) to be debunked or proven correct. My personal experience and sense of logic leads me to accept this methodology. It doesn't always make me right, but I have found it to be a much more accurate and assuring platform to live my life by. I respect your right to live by faith and belief. For thousands of years man "believed" the earth was flat, because that was his experience and interpretation. Science proved that wrong, and I could throw many more of those at you (and prove them scientifically) than you could throw back. It does no good. I thought of another good analogy that helps explain my point that interpretations of the causes and effect of experiential evidence can be very misleading....A magician (as we know) uses various techniques to fool the viewer. To the viewer, when the magician puts the woman into the box and levitates it, then poof, he opens the box and the woman is gone, the "experience" is that he made her disappear. Of course, we all know he didn't. There was a trick involved. Science would demand to know how the trick worked. Science would seek to understand the cause and effect in definable terms. Until it could do so, it would develop "theories" as to what actually occurred. However, to the viewer, it would simply look as though the woman actually disappeared, and there would be some that would go home "believing" that that's the only explanation. After all, they saw it with their own eyes. Anyway, I respect your right to believe. I will continue to call your beliefs "theories", and you will continue to believe they are facts. That's fine with me. Regards! Z- [/QUOTE]
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