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Is Jesus Azizus Monobaz?
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<blockquote data-quote="Harte" data-source="post: 96064" data-attributes="member: 443"><p>I posted the thing in context Ren. I can read, I know what it was about and it wasn't about Matthew, it was about John the Baptist. The quote lifted by Ellis out of context was Jesus himself mocking the Pharisees and lawyers about the way they maintain their (to Him) blinders. Anyone reading that can plainly see it right there in the text.</p><p> </p><p>I suggest you read Luke 7. Don't worry, it won't catch on fire if you touch it.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>"Personal attacks?" Yep, there it is folks. Confronted with an inconsistency <strong><u>manufactured</u></strong> by Ellis for the sole purpose of supporting an unimportant part of his own claims, Ren claims I'm making a personal attack.</p><p> </p><p>Let me ask you then, Ren. Was Ellis being truthful in his statement that Jesus was "always" referred to as a glutton and drunkard? Are you not aware, even after I quoted it to you, that those are <em>Jesus' own wo</em>rds Ellis refers to? Is there anyone at all referring to Jesus as a "glutton and a drunkard" anywhere in the New Testament? If not, then what does that say about Ellis' statement?</p><p> </p><p>I'll tell you what it says, since it appears that you are the only one that refuses to actually read and understand what i've said - it says that Ellis is lying. It says that, I proved that, and there's nothing you can do about it except lament Ellis' stupid belief that nobody would bother fact-checking his statements.</p><p> </p><p>Tells you what kind of audience that book was for as well, doesn't it?</p><p> </p><p>You might not like it, but Ellis lied right there where I showed you. It was a stupid lie to boot, apparently only in some tangential attempt to equate an image with that of Jesus. An entirely unneccesary part of his claim, yet he felt compelled to mislead his readers over even this simple little easily removed thing. How much more would he feel compelled to fabricate something where the meat of his claim is involved?</p><p> </p><p>Harte</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Harte, post: 96064, member: 443"] I posted the thing in context Ren. I can read, I know what it was about and it wasn't about Matthew, it was about John the Baptist. The quote lifted by Ellis out of context was Jesus himself mocking the Pharisees and lawyers about the way they maintain their (to Him) blinders. Anyone reading that can plainly see it right there in the text. I suggest you read Luke 7. Don't worry, it won't catch on fire if you touch it. "Personal attacks?" Yep, there it is folks. Confronted with an inconsistency [B][U]manufactured[/U][/B] by Ellis for the sole purpose of supporting an unimportant part of his own claims, Ren claims I'm making a personal attack. Let me ask you then, Ren. Was Ellis being truthful in his statement that Jesus was "always" referred to as a glutton and drunkard? Are you not aware, even after I quoted it to you, that those are [I]Jesus' own wo[/I]rds Ellis refers to? Is there anyone at all referring to Jesus as a "glutton and a drunkard" anywhere in the New Testament? If not, then what does that say about Ellis' statement? I'll tell you what it says, since it appears that you are the only one that refuses to actually read and understand what i've said - it says that Ellis is lying. It says that, I proved that, and there's nothing you can do about it except lament Ellis' stupid belief that nobody would bother fact-checking his statements. Tells you what kind of audience that book was for as well, doesn't it? You might not like it, but Ellis lied right there where I showed you. It was a stupid lie to boot, apparently only in some tangential attempt to equate an image with that of Jesus. An entirely unneccesary part of his claim, yet he felt compelled to mislead his readers over even this simple little easily removed thing. How much more would he feel compelled to fabricate something where the meat of his claim is involved? Harte [/QUOTE]
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