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<blockquote data-quote="Rosco..Jones" data-source="post: 86434" data-attributes="member: 2729"><p><span style="color: #59b300">For <strong><span style="font-size: 15px"><a href="http://paranormalis.com/members/earthmasque.4383/" target="_blank">Earthmasque... </a></span></strong><span style="font-size: 15px"><a href="http://paranormalis.com/members/earthmasque.4383/" target="_blank">I will focus on Christianity because that is what I am most familiar with. When decisions were made as to which books were to be contained in the Bible</a></span><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"><a href="http://paranormalis.com/members/earthmasque.4383/" target="_blank">,</a></span></strong><span style="font-size: 15px"><a href="http://paranormalis.com/members/earthmasque.4383/" target="_blank"> choices were made that emphasized</a></span><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"><a href="http://paranormalis.com/members/earthmasque.4383/" target="_blank"> </a></span></strong><span style="font-size: 15px"><a href="http://paranormalis.com/members/earthmasque.4383/" target="_blank">the the understanding in ways that would strengthen the control by the Church and limit the ideas that the Church did not want promoted. The role of women was downplayed, along with concepts of the spiritual aspects of nature and the plant/animal kingdoms. They wanted to exclude any concepts deemed to be "Pagan" in their views. This was done to eliminate any spiritual <span style="color: #59b300">competition</span> and strengthen their power and control. On the other hand, the Roman Catholic church did include idols, rituals and erected grandiose buildings to glorify God. This seems to me to be in conflict with what Christ was promoting.</a></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #00b300"><a href="http://paranormalis.com/members/earthmasque.4383/" target="_blank"></a></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #00b300"><a href="http://paranormalis.com/members/earthmasque.4383/" target="_blank"></a></span><a href="http://paranormalis.com/members/earthmasque.4383/" target="_blank">There are the "Lost Books of the Bible" that include concepts rejected by the Church because they did not agree with the overall game plan. Also, for reasons I will not elaborate on here, the book of Mathew may be fraudulent and written quite some time after Christs death. In any case it was men who decided what was to be called the truth to be followed, or falsehoods to be ignored. Each person making these decisions had their own set of beliefs, understandings and reasons for how they voted.</a></span><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"><a href="http://paranormalis.com/members/earthmasque.4383/" target="_blank"> </a></span></strong><span style="font-size: 15px"><a href="http://paranormalis.com/members/earthmasque.4383/" target="_blank">They were not individually inspired by the divine in the manner which the "official" Bible was put together.</a></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #59b300">Churches today do not all teach the same thing.</span> <span style="color: #59b300">The minister, preacher (whatever) focuses on certain aspects of the Bible that they feel most important. Their teachings again differ due to personal interpretations and beliefs. Today, as well as through the history of the Church, we often see that the clergy is not always as Holy as we would hope. Their power and influence is sometimes used for personal reasons. Sexual predation, lavish lifestyles and other actions are not as rare as one would expect.</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #59b300">The Church teaches that we are ALL sinful and God is separate/apart from us. These beliefs color our views of how reality works and limits us in many ways. The same can be said of Science, that teaches us that reality is just the result of random chance and physical processes. Whatever our beliefs, they are what determine how we view the world and our place in it. We do have latent abilities that are not utilized, simply because we do not bring them into our belief system as even being a possibility. You can't find the answers, if you are not capable of asking the right questions. </span></span><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #59b300">I do believe that Organized Religion IS Bad, in that it places constraints on followers learning to use what their "God Given" abilities are. We all do create our own realities. Learning how to do this effectively requires first changing our beliefs. Remember, facts are only those things that we <em>believe</em> to be true. Beliefs change constantly as we experience and learn new things. We exist in a multidimensional universe and are multidimensional beings. Yet, the only part of ourselves that we accept as being "real" is the physical world we experience. There is more to reality than just the physical, but each organized religion gives its own limited perspective. This had to utilized concepts that were acceptable to the people of that time and society. Times are changing and beliefs about how reality works are too. </span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
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