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<blockquote data-quote="george martin" data-source="post: 103841" data-attributes="member: 4396"><p><strong>Only a shot fired inside the limo could've left the smell gunpowder near and west of the overpass</strong>. The driver's shot was proven five years ago this coming September.</p><p></p><p>According to Gary Mack <strong>the wind was blowing about 15 mph (west to the east)</strong> into the motorcade. <strong>Greer's close range shot completely supports these awesome accounts of gunpowder right near the limo</strong> and debunks the fatal shot from being 265 feet behind (east of) the limo.</p><p></p><p>From "Murder From Within" on the gunpowder "nose witnesses:" <a href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19948" target="_blank"><u>The Smell of Gunpowder in Dealey Plaza - from "Murder From Within" Wind Speed & Direction - JFK Assassination Debate - The Education Forum</u></a></p><p></p><p><strong>The Smell of Gunsmoke at Street Level</strong> <a href="http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19251&st=0" target="_blank"><u>Firecracker - JFK Assassination Debate - The Education Forum</u></a></p><p></p><p>In addition to the eyewitnesses and ear witnesses, <strong>there were also nose witnesses to the murder</strong>.</p><p></p><p>Those who smelled gunpowder at the scene of the shooting helped to pinpoint the source of the shots. Placed on a map (Fig. 3-7), they were within the path of the motorcade or near Elm St. <strong>The motorcade headed west down Elm St. into a modest breeze</strong>.</p><p></p><p>Motorcycle escort officer <strong>Billy J. Martin, riding one half car length from the left rear fender of the Presidential limousine, recalled</strong>, "You could smell the gunpowder…<strong>you knew he wasn't far away</strong>. When <strong>you're that close you can smell the powder burning</strong>, why you - you've got to be pretty close to them…<strong>you could smell the gunpowder…right there in the street</strong>."</p><p></p><p><strong>“Nose” witnesses</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>Senator Ralph W. Yarborough rode in the second car</strong> behind the limousine. <strong>He smelled gunpowder in the street</strong> and said <strong>it clung to the car throughout the race to Parkland Hospital</strong>.</p><p></p><p><strong>Two cars behind Yarborough was the Cabell car. Mrs. Cabell said that she "…was acutely aware of the odor of gunpowder</strong>." She added that Congressman <strong>Ray Roberts, seated next to her, had mentioned it also</strong>.</p><p></p><p>According to Tom C. Dillard, two cars behind the Cabell car, he "…very definitely smelled gunpowder when the cars moved up at the corner of Elm and Houston Streets."</p><p></p><p>Vergie Rackley stood in front of the depository building. "She recalled that after the second shot she smelled gunsmoke…"</p><p></p><p>At the time of the shots, patrolman <strong>Joe M. Smith moved from the intersection of Elm and Houston Streets toward the triple underpass</strong>. When interviewed at that time, <strong>he stated that he smelled gunpowder near the underpass</strong>.</p><p></p><p><strong>Patrolman Earle V. Brown, stationed 100 yards west of the underpass</strong>, stated that he heard the shots and then <strong>smelled gunpowder as the car sped beneath him</strong>.</p><p></p><p><strong>A police officer who was on the sixth floor of the depository shortly after the shooting failed to smell any gunpowder there</strong>.</p><p></p><p>One newspaper summed it up: "…<strong>seconds later the cavalcade was gone. The area still reeked with the smell of gunpowder</strong>." Shots from the sixth floor of <strong>the depository building would have caused no gunpowder smell in the street</strong>. <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Murder-Within-Johnsons-Against-President/dp/1463422423/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1341243956&sr=8-2&keywords=murder+from+within" target="_blank"><u>Murder from Within: Lyndon Johnson's Plot Against President Kennedy: Fred T. Newcomb: 9781463422424: Amazon.com: Books</u></a></p><p></p><p></p><p>Many eye, ear, and nose witnesses supported a shot in or around the Presidential limo. <strong>Ralph, is in the backseat on the right in the blue car</strong>. <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=ralph+yarborough&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=9xCjU8rWG-aO8QH524HIBw&sqi=2&ved=0CK0BEIke&biw=1536&bih=748" target="_blank"><u>https://www.google.com/search?q=ral...H524HIBw&sqi=2&ved=0CK0BEIke&biw=1536&bih=748</u></a></p><p></p><p>Look under 'Beats Fists Against Car'. "<strong>The third shot he heard might have been a Secret Service man returning the fire", he said</strong>. "The Senator was two cars behind Jfk's, with LBJ. <strong>Look above 'Could Smell Gunpowder'</strong>; <strong>He smelled gunpowder all the way to Parkland Hospital</strong>.</p><p></p><p><img src="http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/Gifs/Senatorseesdrivershootjfk.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p><a href="http://s889.photobucket.com/user/77forever/media/Gifs/Johnsonbluecaredit1000w_zpsbd92c070.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/Gifs/Johnsonbluecaredit1000w_zpsbd92c070.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="george martin, post: 103841, member: 4396"] [B]Only a shot fired inside the limo could've left the smell gunpowder near and west of the overpass[/B]. The driver's shot was proven five years ago this coming September. According to Gary Mack [B]the wind was blowing about 15 mph (west to the east)[/B] into the motorcade. [B]Greer's close range shot completely supports these awesome accounts of gunpowder right near the limo[/B] and debunks the fatal shot from being 265 feet behind (east of) the limo. From "Murder From Within" on the gunpowder "nose witnesses:" [URL='http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19948'][U]The Smell of Gunpowder in Dealey Plaza - from "Murder From Within" Wind Speed & Direction - JFK Assassination Debate - The Education Forum[/U][/URL] [B]The Smell of Gunsmoke at Street Level[/B] [URL='http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19251&st=0'][U]Firecracker - JFK Assassination Debate - The Education Forum[/U][/URL] In addition to the eyewitnesses and ear witnesses, [B]there were also nose witnesses to the murder[/B]. Those who smelled gunpowder at the scene of the shooting helped to pinpoint the source of the shots. Placed on a map (Fig. 3-7), they were within the path of the motorcade or near Elm St. [B]The motorcade headed west down Elm St. into a modest breeze[/B]. Motorcycle escort officer [B]Billy J. Martin, riding one half car length from the left rear fender of the Presidential limousine, recalled[/B], "You could smell the gunpowder…[B]you knew he wasn't far away[/B]. When [B]you're that close you can smell the powder burning[/B], why you - you've got to be pretty close to them…[B]you could smell the gunpowder…right there in the street[/B]." [B]“Nose” witnesses[/B] [B]Senator Ralph W. Yarborough rode in the second car[/B] behind the limousine. [B]He smelled gunpowder in the street[/B] and said [B]it clung to the car throughout the race to Parkland Hospital[/B]. [B]Two cars behind Yarborough was the Cabell car. Mrs. Cabell said that she "…was acutely aware of the odor of gunpowder[/B]." She added that Congressman [B]Ray Roberts, seated next to her, had mentioned it also[/B]. According to Tom C. Dillard, two cars behind the Cabell car, he "…very definitely smelled gunpowder when the cars moved up at the corner of Elm and Houston Streets." Vergie Rackley stood in front of the depository building. "She recalled that after the second shot she smelled gunsmoke…" At the time of the shots, patrolman [B]Joe M. Smith moved from the intersection of Elm and Houston Streets toward the triple underpass[/B]. When interviewed at that time, [B]he stated that he smelled gunpowder near the underpass[/B]. [B]Patrolman Earle V. Brown, stationed 100 yards west of the underpass[/B], stated that he heard the shots and then [B]smelled gunpowder as the car sped beneath him[/B]. [B]A police officer who was on the sixth floor of the depository shortly after the shooting failed to smell any gunpowder there[/B]. One newspaper summed it up: "…[B]seconds later the cavalcade was gone. The area still reeked with the smell of gunpowder[/B]." Shots from the sixth floor of [B]the depository building would have caused no gunpowder smell in the street[/B]. [URL='http://www.amazon.com/Murder-Within-Johnsons-Against-President/dp/1463422423/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1341243956&sr=8-2&keywords=murder+from+within'][U]Murder from Within: Lyndon Johnson's Plot Against President Kennedy: Fred T. Newcomb: 9781463422424: Amazon.com: Books[/U][/URL] Many eye, ear, and nose witnesses supported a shot in or around the Presidential limo. [B]Ralph, is in the backseat on the right in the blue car[/B]. [URL='https://www.google.com/search?q=ralph+yarborough&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=9xCjU8rWG-aO8QH524HIBw&sqi=2&ved=0CK0BEIke&biw=1536&bih=748'][U]https://www.google.com/search?q=ral...H524HIBw&sqi=2&ved=0CK0BEIke&biw=1536&bih=748[/U][/URL] Look under 'Beats Fists Against Car'. "[B]The third shot he heard might have been a Secret Service man returning the fire", he said[/B]. "The Senator was two cars behind Jfk's, with LBJ. [B]Look above 'Could Smell Gunpowder'[/B]; [B]He smelled gunpowder all the way to Parkland Hospital[/B]. [IMG]http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/Gifs/Senatorseesdrivershootjfk.jpg[/IMG] [URL='http://s889.photobucket.com/user/77forever/media/Gifs/Johnsonbluecaredit1000w_zpsbd92c070.jpg.html'][IMG]http://i889.photobucket.com/albums/ac98/77forever/Gifs/Johnsonbluecaredit1000w_zpsbd92c070.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [/QUOTE]
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