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John Titor Alleged Predictions and Are They Real or Not
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<blockquote data-quote="Peregrini" data-source="post: 58536" data-attributes="member: 2670"><p>I suppose I could start and end this debate with one little sentence;</p><p>The Y2K disaster, predicted by a time traveler, believed to be the same person that posted as John Titor, did not happen.</p><p>But, where's the fun in that?</p><p>I want to begin with Titor's Y2K prediction for two reasons.</p><p>First, it apparently was the "first" of his predictions. That is, provided the sender of the faxes to Art Bell was the same time traveler.</p><p></p><p>(I fixed "martial", it was spelled wrong)</p><p>Second, Titor alluded to being the one who "accidentally" fixed/averted the Y2K disaster.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Let's look at the first part, the Y2K problem it's self.</p><p>Well to begin with there wasn't one, so to speak. Yes, there was a lot of scrambling around to fix it. The "it" being the 20 ton elephant in the room for the previous 20+ years. There were no large scale users of IBM, or any of the other manufactures of computer equipment, that wasn't aware of the looming problem. Well, except for one.</p><p>What no one wanted to do was spend the time and money necessary to fix it until the last minute. Some did start earlier, but the problem was known for all of the 90's by major users ie, Banks, Utilities, Government, etc.</p><p>Your home computer was not in any real jeopardy since most PC's built in the 90's were already able to avoid the date problem, the EPROM's had already been programmed to avoid the glitch. Might I be making less of the problem that was experienced? A little maybe, but I was not at all affected by it, as with most, if not all, of you also. I am sure someone will claim they had a lot to do with the "fix" and that may well be true, provided they too, are an IT expert. My source, for my overall information on Y2K and in case of any technical replies to this post, was actually hands on fixing the problem. He explained to me how, for the most part, it was a labor intensive fix that kept him and a team of techs busy for 5 years.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2000_problem" target="_blank">Year 2000 problem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</a></p><p> </p><p>On to the allegation that Titor's actions fixed the problem before there was a problem.</p><p>First, you have to believe Titor was a time traveler. I do not but we can skip past that and look at the "story".</p><p>The story goes that;</p><p>Titor traveled back to 1975 to get an IBM 5100 from his grandfather, a member of the 5100 development team, and while he was there he influenced his grandfather to look into the Y2K date problem.</p><p>As a result of this "intervention" on Titor's part the disaster was avoided.</p><p>Well, to begin with , it wasn't avoided. We did go through the fix. The IBM machines were affected as much as any others. Wouldn't any reasonable person suspect that if IBM had such information, they would have taken advantage of it and insured their systems would be built to avoid future date problems and then market them as such? Again, only one manufacturer did so.</p><p>Someone may say; "The impact was lessened, it could have been worse."</p><p>A completely subjective position that simply can not be verified.</p><p>I stated twice that one manufacturer had no reason to worry about the Y2K problem. That manufacturer was...</p><p> </p><p>The only one who had the foresight to avoid the Y2K situation was The MacOS operating system and Apple Macintosh computers. All MacOS operating system date and time utilities have correctly handled the year 2000 since the introduction of the Macintosh, on January 24, 1984.</p><p> </p><p>So, if there was any time travel involved with the Y2K problem, it seems to me, it was by Steve Jobs grandson who I don't think Titor claimed to be.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Peregrini, post: 58536, member: 2670"] I suppose I could start and end this debate with one little sentence; The Y2K disaster, predicted by a time traveler, believed to be the same person that posted as John Titor, did not happen. But, where's the fun in that? I want to begin with Titor's Y2K prediction for two reasons. First, it apparently was the "first" of his predictions. That is, provided the sender of the faxes to Art Bell was the same time traveler. (I fixed "martial", it was spelled wrong) Second, Titor alluded to being the one who "accidentally" fixed/averted the Y2K disaster. Let's look at the first part, the Y2K problem it's self. Well to begin with there wasn't one, so to speak. Yes, there was a lot of scrambling around to fix it. The "it" being the 20 ton elephant in the room for the previous 20+ years. There were no large scale users of IBM, or any of the other manufactures of computer equipment, that wasn't aware of the looming problem. Well, except for one. What no one wanted to do was spend the time and money necessary to fix it until the last minute. Some did start earlier, but the problem was known for all of the 90's by major users ie, Banks, Utilities, Government, etc. Your home computer was not in any real jeopardy since most PC's built in the 90's were already able to avoid the date problem, the EPROM's had already been programmed to avoid the glitch. Might I be making less of the problem that was experienced? A little maybe, but I was not at all affected by it, as with most, if not all, of you also. I am sure someone will claim they had a lot to do with the "fix" and that may well be true, provided they too, are an IT expert. My source, for my overall information on Y2K and in case of any technical replies to this post, was actually hands on fixing the problem. He explained to me how, for the most part, it was a labor intensive fix that kept him and a team of techs busy for 5 years. [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2000_problem"]Year 2000 problem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url] On to the allegation that Titor's actions fixed the problem before there was a problem. First, you have to believe Titor was a time traveler. I do not but we can skip past that and look at the "story". The story goes that; Titor traveled back to 1975 to get an IBM 5100 from his grandfather, a member of the 5100 development team, and while he was there he influenced his grandfather to look into the Y2K date problem. As a result of this "intervention" on Titor's part the disaster was avoided. Well, to begin with , it wasn't avoided. We did go through the fix. The IBM machines were affected as much as any others. Wouldn't any reasonable person suspect that if IBM had such information, they would have taken advantage of it and insured their systems would be built to avoid future date problems and then market them as such? Again, only one manufacturer did so. Someone may say; "The impact was lessened, it could have been worse." A completely subjective position that simply can not be verified. I stated twice that one manufacturer had no reason to worry about the Y2K problem. That manufacturer was... The only one who had the foresight to avoid the Y2K situation was The MacOS operating system and Apple Macintosh computers. All MacOS operating system date and time utilities have correctly handled the year 2000 since the introduction of the Macintosh, on January 24, 1984. So, if there was any time travel involved with the Y2K problem, it seems to me, it was by Steve Jobs grandson who I don't think Titor claimed to be. [/QUOTE]
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