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<blockquote data-quote="AAA" data-source="post: 93909" data-attributes="member: 5790"><p>Further,</p><p></p><p>(Theoretically)</p><p></p><p>If you wanted to prove time travel to someone, you could use almost any after-the-fact knowledge of a specific set of events and circumstances as a means, by relaying that information to a before-the-fact point in time, ..and possibly without wrecking the timeline. Simply by giving clues to said data set without actually stating specifics, you prevent them from being able to definitively define them, and therefore their ability to anticipate and manipulate them., and yet still give them enough information to recognize it when it happens (...similar to how an ambiguous or cryptic religious prophecy works) If you did so limiting the tangible proofs, they would have difficulty proving it to another.</p><p></p><p>For an example;</p><p></p><p>You could make a comment about Jesus in an internet post in 2001, then tell someone that it will correspond with a song released at least a decade later by a gorgeous pop star, and that you will use it as a random example on a popular website somewhere.</p><p></p><p>You could then instruct them to talk about it and create intrigue as a means of making it a popular topic on the internet, whereby the basis for the conversation will be created.</p><p></p><p>They cannot see it until the information from Point A (when the conversation using it as an example happens 2010 or later),..Point B (when the comment in a post was made 2001), Point C (when you tell them about it after the post in 2001), D (when the song is released in 2010 or later), all happen and the loop is complete.</p><p></p><p>It may have nothing to do with Jesus or a song title other than using them as markers in time, as data sets to compare analyze, to demonstrate fore-knowledge of the time line from an after-the-fact perspective.</p><p></p><p>You could probably use almost anything and work it however you like, as long as it was within your parameters of keeping it ambiguous but recognizable. And you wouldn't necessarily need to tell them that your proving it to them. You may be able to do it with telling them very little.</p><p></p><p>Let's say that, on a date you would remember (like an anniversary, graduation date,or birthday, holiday, etc), you are approached by an odd looking friendly man wearing a blue hat, with blue hair, blue eyes, blue suit, and blue shoes. He walks up to you and starts a conversation. He somewhat obsessively and repeatedly uses the phrase "831 late tree". Then he walks away just as fast as he approached you. The whole interaction lasts only a couple of minutes. You dismiss him as odd or on drugs or something as to describe his enigmatic behavior and appearance.</p><p></p><p>A couple of years later, you are on your way to work one stormy morning when a tree gets struck by lightning and falls into the freeway, thus causing a wreck and traffic jam. You finally make it to work and clock in an hour and a half late at 8:31 AM, but you initially do not make the connection. Later that day, you are talking on the phone and mention that you clocked in at 8:31, that you were late because of a tree. Then, suddenly the phrase "831 Late Tree" that was repeated by the odd man on a date you would remember, comes to mind. You look down to notice you are wearing a mostly blue outfit.</p><p></p><p>Under any normal circumstance, you would notice the correlation, but would dismiss it as a very interesting coincidence. However, if a series of these events happened, it demonstrates a clear pattern that cannot be dismissed. ...Which brings up all kinds of questions, causes you to really think about it.</p><p></p><p>He didn't conspire it to happen because he is not god and can't make lightning hit a tree. He could (presumably) only know that by digging through employment records, and only after it happened. But that doesn't explain things like how he knew you were wearing blue. After enough processing of what transpired, you will eventually accept that you're witness to information traveling backward in time, but you are unsure exactly how.</p><p></p><p>If you try to explain it to someone, you're liable to be called crazy or dismissed in some way. And you cannot prove it because, although you clearly see it, there is nothing to show. You could record everything you do, but by the time you realize what it is about, they are already gone. And even if you did happen to catch them on camera, you still have a difficult time trying to prove it. Because of the personalized nature of it, people simply cannot relate. Because of ambiguity, it can always be dismissed as something else giving plausible deniability.</p><p></p><p>When you consider his position and subsequent parameters, you understand the why of the methods used. He could just come right out and tell you that there will be a tree struck by lightning on date X, time Y at location Z. But you may avoid the freeway that day and take an alternate route whereby, through the butterfly effect, the whole time line changes and a war happens somewhere, or whatever. But if he keeps it ambiguous, you don't know until after it happens. Plus, if he is caught on camera, if there is any question, he has plausible deniability.</p><p>It could probably also work through various mediums, like a newspaper add or horoscope, music or whatever. As long as it is somewhat personalized and ambiguous, yet still enough information to make the connection, it works.</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]e9SeJIgWRPk[/MEDIA]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AAA, post: 93909, member: 5790"] Further, (Theoretically) If you wanted to prove time travel to someone, you could use almost any after-the-fact knowledge of a specific set of events and circumstances as a means, by relaying that information to a before-the-fact point in time, ..and possibly without wrecking the timeline. Simply by giving clues to said data set without actually stating specifics, you prevent them from being able to definitively define them, and therefore their ability to anticipate and manipulate them., and yet still give them enough information to recognize it when it happens (...similar to how an ambiguous or cryptic religious prophecy works) If you did so limiting the tangible proofs, they would have difficulty proving it to another. For an example; You could make a comment about Jesus in an internet post in 2001, then tell someone that it will correspond with a song released at least a decade later by a gorgeous pop star, and that you will use it as a random example on a popular website somewhere. You could then instruct them to talk about it and create intrigue as a means of making it a popular topic on the internet, whereby the basis for the conversation will be created. They cannot see it until the information from Point A (when the conversation using it as an example happens 2010 or later),..Point B (when the comment in a post was made 2001), Point C (when you tell them about it after the post in 2001), D (when the song is released in 2010 or later), all happen and the loop is complete. It may have nothing to do with Jesus or a song title other than using them as markers in time, as data sets to compare analyze, to demonstrate fore-knowledge of the time line from an after-the-fact perspective. You could probably use almost anything and work it however you like, as long as it was within your parameters of keeping it ambiguous but recognizable. And you wouldn't necessarily need to tell them that your proving it to them. You may be able to do it with telling them very little. Let's say that, on a date you would remember (like an anniversary, graduation date,or birthday, holiday, etc), you are approached by an odd looking friendly man wearing a blue hat, with blue hair, blue eyes, blue suit, and blue shoes. He walks up to you and starts a conversation. He somewhat obsessively and repeatedly uses the phrase "831 late tree". Then he walks away just as fast as he approached you. The whole interaction lasts only a couple of minutes. You dismiss him as odd or on drugs or something as to describe his enigmatic behavior and appearance. A couple of years later, you are on your way to work one stormy morning when a tree gets struck by lightning and falls into the freeway, thus causing a wreck and traffic jam. You finally make it to work and clock in an hour and a half late at 8:31 AM, but you initially do not make the connection. Later that day, you are talking on the phone and mention that you clocked in at 8:31, that you were late because of a tree. Then, suddenly the phrase "831 Late Tree" that was repeated by the odd man on a date you would remember, comes to mind. You look down to notice you are wearing a mostly blue outfit. Under any normal circumstance, you would notice the correlation, but would dismiss it as a very interesting coincidence. However, if a series of these events happened, it demonstrates a clear pattern that cannot be dismissed. ...Which brings up all kinds of questions, causes you to really think about it. He didn't conspire it to happen because he is not god and can't make lightning hit a tree. He could (presumably) only know that by digging through employment records, and only after it happened. But that doesn't explain things like how he knew you were wearing blue. After enough processing of what transpired, you will eventually accept that you're witness to information traveling backward in time, but you are unsure exactly how. If you try to explain it to someone, you're liable to be called crazy or dismissed in some way. And you cannot prove it because, although you clearly see it, there is nothing to show. You could record everything you do, but by the time you realize what it is about, they are already gone. And even if you did happen to catch them on camera, you still have a difficult time trying to prove it. Because of the personalized nature of it, people simply cannot relate. Because of ambiguity, it can always be dismissed as something else giving plausible deniability. When you consider his position and subsequent parameters, you understand the why of the methods used. He could just come right out and tell you that there will be a tree struck by lightning on date X, time Y at location Z. But you may avoid the freeway that day and take an alternate route whereby, through the butterfly effect, the whole time line changes and a war happens somewhere, or whatever. But if he keeps it ambiguous, you don't know until after it happens. Plus, if he is caught on camera, if there is any question, he has plausible deniability. It could probably also work through various mediums, like a newspaper add or horoscope, music or whatever. As long as it is somewhat personalized and ambiguous, yet still enough information to make the connection, it works. [MEDIA=youtube]e9SeJIgWRPk[/MEDIA] [/QUOTE]
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