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<blockquote data-quote="Judge Bean" data-source="post: 10138" data-attributes="member: 42"><p><strong>JT Foundation/Oliver Williams Research</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually, I hesitate to copy your post here, Darby, not wishing to give it any more wind. It has sailed far enough to date, and has done sufficient damage. I request that you post no more.</p><p></p><p>You have violated the cardinal rule of our forum, and its spirit. We are bent on discovering all that we can discover by unhampered research and speculation, and you have very nearly squelched a bright path and frightened away a valuable member.</p><p></p><p>There are many kinds of law. The one followed here is the one you are bound to honor, or get lost. We follow the law of free and open exchange of ideas and discoveries. This was apparently not your intent or desire. So get lost.</p><p></p><p>You have taken your forum to hell in your own handbasket. Please go there with it. I cannot fathom why you are so obsessed with Titor, especially since you made it abundantly clear when you had him online that you didn't believe a word he said. Why have you devoted so much of yourself to prove him a hoax? Never mind: do not answer. I don't want you to post at all, and I am not interested in your answer.</p><p></p><p>I would like nothing more than for Mr. Haber to sue me or someone on the Board. I would have a field day in court with him and his infotainment crew. One of the first things I would do is move the case to federal court in Fresno, and call everybody to town to testify; although it's not the garden spot of the free world, I would love to have all the members here in Fresno for a big party, and eventually the Disney bunch would foot the bill.</p><p></p><p>But I have reviewed the postings and find no cause for alarm. Although lawsuits without merit are routinely filed, and Disney and its lawyers are highly litigious, no member here has violated any copyright, defamation, or other law. Indeed, we posted the open question regarding the identity of Oliver Williams, who has made all information about himself (and this goes for either Mr. Williams) openly available on the godforsaken international internet.</p><p></p><p>VIN numbers are public records. The government cannot control the release of information in the databanks of Motor Vehicle Departments nationwide; for example, the most sensitive information is routinely entered on personal checks by clerks at Wal Mart. State Bar records are by law accessible to the public. </p><p></p><p>Please let's not be manipulated by those who have demonstrable interests in shutting us down or silencing members.</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><em>I see a law suit in the making with the allegation that Oliver Williams (JT Editor) is the felon in prison in Florida. Very dicey - and if he's associated with Haber he has access to legal counsel. Doubly "very dicey".</em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><em></em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><em>So, absent absolute confirmation that JT Editor/Oliver WIlliams is the same Oliver WIlliams in prison in Florida, let's not make any references to that here.</em></span></p><p></p><p>Oh, please. You are full of manure. First of all, it is so much of a coincidence that there would be two Oliver Williams of Florida, especially with the VIN connection, that it warrants any number of reasonable questions, and the allegation was never made by anyone here that it was the same person beyond doubt. </p><p></p><p>Secondly, "<em>let's</em>" is not the word you should use when you mean to refer to what you want <em>us</em> to say-- that is, don't include yourself in the warning. It is dishonest; what you actually mean to say is that <em>you </em>don't want <em>us </em>to make references or do further research or speculation.</p><p></p><p>OK, that's all I've got to say about this character. Let's move on.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Judge Bean, post: 10138, member: 42"] [b]JT Foundation/Oliver Williams Research[/b] Actually, I hesitate to copy your post here, Darby, not wishing to give it any more wind. It has sailed far enough to date, and has done sufficient damage. I request that you post no more. You have violated the cardinal rule of our forum, and its spirit. We are bent on discovering all that we can discover by unhampered research and speculation, and you have very nearly squelched a bright path and frightened away a valuable member. There are many kinds of law. The one followed here is the one you are bound to honor, or get lost. We follow the law of free and open exchange of ideas and discoveries. This was apparently not your intent or desire. So get lost. You have taken your forum to hell in your own handbasket. Please go there with it. I cannot fathom why you are so obsessed with Titor, especially since you made it abundantly clear when you had him online that you didn't believe a word he said. Why have you devoted so much of yourself to prove him a hoax? Never mind: do not answer. I don't want you to post at all, and I am not interested in your answer. I would like nothing more than for Mr. Haber to sue me or someone on the Board. I would have a field day in court with him and his infotainment crew. One of the first things I would do is move the case to federal court in Fresno, and call everybody to town to testify; although it's not the garden spot of the free world, I would love to have all the members here in Fresno for a big party, and eventually the Disney bunch would foot the bill. But I have reviewed the postings and find no cause for alarm. Although lawsuits without merit are routinely filed, and Disney and its lawyers are highly litigious, no member here has violated any copyright, defamation, or other law. Indeed, we posted the open question regarding the identity of Oliver Williams, who has made all information about himself (and this goes for either Mr. Williams) openly available on the godforsaken international internet. VIN numbers are public records. The government cannot control the release of information in the databanks of Motor Vehicle Departments nationwide; for example, the most sensitive information is routinely entered on personal checks by clerks at Wal Mart. State Bar records are by law accessible to the public. Please let's not be manipulated by those who have demonstrable interests in shutting us down or silencing members. [SIZE=1][i]I see a law suit in the making with the allegation that Oliver Williams (JT Editor) is the felon in prison in Florida. Very dicey - and if he's associated with Haber he has access to legal counsel. Doubly "very dicey". So, absent absolute confirmation that JT Editor/Oliver WIlliams is the same Oliver WIlliams in prison in Florida, let's not make any references to that here.[/i][/SIZE] Oh, please. You are full of manure. First of all, it is so much of a coincidence that there would be two Oliver Williams of Florida, especially with the VIN connection, that it warrants any number of reasonable questions, and the allegation was never made by anyone here that it was the same person beyond doubt. Secondly, "[i]let's[/i]" is not the word you should use when you mean to refer to what you want [i]us[/i] to say-- that is, don't include yourself in the warning. It is dishonest; what you actually mean to say is that [i]you [/i]don't want [i]us [/i]to make references or do further research or speculation. OK, that's all I've got to say about this character. Let's move on. [/QUOTE]
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