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Kay Titor 177 Tempus Edax Rerum
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<blockquote data-quote="shakes" data-source="post: 148343" data-attributes="member: 4581"><p>Hey Pamela,</p><p></p><p>In 2004 I discovered JT from listening to Coast to Coast (A Time Traveler's Tale - JT book promotion). This (at the time) caused me to do intense research on time travel. In 2004, there were only three (3) "interesting enough" internet based "adventures" on time travel. One was <a href="http://deoxy.org/inc2.htm" target="_blank">Ong's Hat</a>, specifically <a href="http://deoxy.org/inc1.htm" target="_blank">Incunabula</a> (evidently conceived/written by Joseph Matheny), another was <a href="http://www.wingmakers.com/" target="_blank">Wingmakers</a> (evidently conceived/written by James). However, the one that started it all (for me) was JT.</p><p></p><p>Ong's Hat is a very complex (dimension travel) internet adventure story. A lot of googling and research needs to be done in order to get the full "Ong's Hat" experience. It is NOT just one source of info. Ong's Hat was so good, I had emailed Joseph Matheny (2005) and asked him if he was JT. I never received a response. As the years have passed, Joseph Matheny did not come up with any new material. Then, he began to claim (approximately 2012) that he was responsible for the JT saga. After listening to him on many radio talk shows, Joseph Matheny did not seem to have the character to conceive JT or Ong's Hat. So, it seems (IMHO) that Joseph Matheny is a complete fake, and stole Ong's Hat and with that success tried to also steal the JT saga. Or, Joseph Matheny is all that he says he is, and (he) is capable of a writing style that is completely different than his speaking style (I like to keep an open mind). If Joseph Matheny is a fake, then where did the Ong's Hat (saga) story originate from? The Ong's Hat (saga) story is complex and is just as "intellectually" stimulating as the JT saga. Just like JT (saga), you have to dig (research) around for info.</p><p></p><p>With regards to Wingmakers, this also would rival JT as one of the best time travel (saga) stories of all time. The Wingmakers website claims (up front) to be <strong>fiction</strong>. The information on the Wingmakers website is very stimulating and seems to be just the opposite of what it claims, and in reality, is possibly the <strong>exact truth</strong> (if a person can read between the lines). A good start to the Wingmakers are the "<a href="https://www.wingmakers.com/content/neruda-interviews/" target="_blank">Neruda Interviews</a>" and/or "<a href="https://www.wingmakers.com/content/books/" target="_blank">Ancient Arrow Project</a>". In the beginning of my Wingmakers reasearch, I used to (also) get a kick out of reading the Wingmakers "<a href="https://www.wingmakers.com/wp-content/themes/wingmaker/style/dark/pdffiles/WingMakers%20Glossary%20(optimized).pdf" target="_blank">glossary</a>".</p><p></p><p>Having done a great amount of research in 2004 - 2006 on these matters, I have always wondered if Ong's Hat, and Wingmakers were possible "time travel" related "planted events" that were used to alter our time line. Ong's Hat was around on chat boards since the 1980's but Joseph Matheny wrote a book in 1999 (<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Incunabula-Papers-Other-Gateways-Dimensions/dp/0967489016" target="_blank">Incunabula Papers</a>) claiming ownership. Wingmakers appeared in 1998. JT appeared in 1999.</p><p></p><p>It seems very coincidental that all these complex time travel (dimensional) adventure/stories appeared at about the same time, and (also) at a time when the internet was in its infancy. There may be a great deal more to JT and time travel than what has ever been discussed.</p><p></p><p>Just wanted to chime in with some additional info.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="shakes, post: 148343, member: 4581"] Hey Pamela, In 2004 I discovered JT from listening to Coast to Coast (A Time Traveler's Tale - JT book promotion). This (at the time) caused me to do intense research on time travel. In 2004, there were only three (3) "interesting enough" internet based "adventures" on time travel. One was [URL='http://deoxy.org/inc2.htm']Ong's Hat[/URL], specifically [URL='http://deoxy.org/inc1.htm']Incunabula[/URL] (evidently conceived/written by Joseph Matheny), another was [URL='http://www.wingmakers.com/']Wingmakers[/URL] (evidently conceived/written by James). However, the one that started it all (for me) was JT. Ong's Hat is a very complex (dimension travel) internet adventure story. A lot of googling and research needs to be done in order to get the full "Ong's Hat" experience. It is NOT just one source of info. Ong's Hat was so good, I had emailed Joseph Matheny (2005) and asked him if he was JT. I never received a response. As the years have passed, Joseph Matheny did not come up with any new material. Then, he began to claim (approximately 2012) that he was responsible for the JT saga. After listening to him on many radio talk shows, Joseph Matheny did not seem to have the character to conceive JT or Ong's Hat. So, it seems (IMHO) that Joseph Matheny is a complete fake, and stole Ong's Hat and with that success tried to also steal the JT saga. Or, Joseph Matheny is all that he says he is, and (he) is capable of a writing style that is completely different than his speaking style (I like to keep an open mind). If Joseph Matheny is a fake, then where did the Ong's Hat (saga) story originate from? The Ong's Hat (saga) story is complex and is just as "intellectually" stimulating as the JT saga. Just like JT (saga), you have to dig (research) around for info. With regards to Wingmakers, this also would rival JT as one of the best time travel (saga) stories of all time. The Wingmakers website claims (up front) to be [B]fiction[/B]. The information on the Wingmakers website is very stimulating and seems to be just the opposite of what it claims, and in reality, is possibly the [B]exact truth[/B] (if a person can read between the lines). A good start to the Wingmakers are the "[URL='https://www.wingmakers.com/content/neruda-interviews/']Neruda Interviews[/URL]" and/or "[URL='https://www.wingmakers.com/content/books/']Ancient Arrow Project[/URL]". In the beginning of my Wingmakers reasearch, I used to (also) get a kick out of reading the Wingmakers "[URL='https://www.wingmakers.com/wp-content/themes/wingmaker/style/dark/pdffiles/WingMakers%20Glossary%20(optimized).pdf']glossary[/URL]". Having done a great amount of research in 2004 - 2006 on these matters, I have always wondered if Ong's Hat, and Wingmakers were possible "time travel" related "planted events" that were used to alter our time line. Ong's Hat was around on chat boards since the 1980's but Joseph Matheny wrote a book in 1999 ([URL='https://www.amazon.com/Incunabula-Papers-Other-Gateways-Dimensions/dp/0967489016']Incunabula Papers[/URL]) claiming ownership. Wingmakers appeared in 1998. JT appeared in 1999. It seems very coincidental that all these complex time travel (dimensional) adventure/stories appeared at about the same time, and (also) at a time when the internet was in its infancy. There may be a great deal more to JT and time travel than what has ever been discussed. Just wanted to chime in with some additional info. [/QUOTE]
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