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Live Birth Abortion is On the Table — America Enters New Stage of Radicalization
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<blockquote data-quote="Element115" data-source="post: 179770" data-attributes="member: 10457"><p>I'm pretty sure the argument isn't a matter of CONVENIENCE like OH, my baby is disabled? Great, now I gotta pay for special treatments blah blah - let's just kill it. NO. That's fucking psychotic. The circumstance is, oh... my child is born with a debilitating disease and it's going to only live for about 5-7 years and it's going to be in pain its entire life and we have no cure or treatment - THEN you can choose to humanely put it down - not for financial reasons, but for HUMANITY reasons - you do not want to bring a child into a world of insufferable pain. Most people have not been in a situation of that type of pain and are unable to comprehend the amount of suffering one goes through. There are poisons made by plants that will cause so much pain to a human (neurotoxin) that they want to kill themselves for relief. The bottom line is there are absolutely situations which warrant abortion past the fetal stage which is "illegal". </p><p></p><p>The way the law is now, is basically saying I don't care if your child suffers, legally you have to keep it alive and keep treating it until it dies. </p><p></p><p>Not to mention in the old days (pre-technology) this was part of natural selection. How is it "natural" to keep something alive which isn't meant to be alive and reproduce? Our gene pool is becoming tainted to say the least thanks to modern medicine and the general consensus to keep everything alive no matter what - even if it's against someone's WILL. </p><p></p><p>There is a famous case of the man who's DNA melted. He was exposed to as much radiation as Hiroshima in a split second. He begged for them to kill him but they kept him alive and kept experimenting on him so they could gauge the effects of extreme radiation damage. Ultimately he died but it was unjust to keep a man alive who wanted to die since he was in so much pain and not even medicine could ease his ailment. There is no difference between that and torture but somehow this form of torture is legal. Why? Who knows, maybe the pursuit of knowledge makes it into a pure venture? Maybe that's what the abortion law needs, some pursuit of knowledge to make it all okay for the pro lifers. </p><p></p><p><strong>Late termination of pregnancy</strong> (<strong>TOP</strong>),<a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_termination_of_pregnancy#cite_note-2" target="_blank">[2]</a> also known as <strong>postviability abortion</strong>,<a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_termination_of_pregnancy#cite_note-Guttmacher_Laws-3" target="_blank">[3]</a> or simply <strong>abortion</strong><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_termination_of_pregnancy#cite_note-4" target="_blank">[4]</a> is a termination of <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregnancy" target="_blank">pregnancy</a> that is performed during a later stage of pregnancy. Late termination of pregnancy is <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_the_United_States#By_trimester_of_pregnancy" target="_blank">more controversial</a> than abortion in general because it results in the death of a <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetus" target="_blank">fetus</a> that is more developed and sometimes <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_viability" target="_blank">able to survive independently</a>. Given the complex, gradual nature of <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_fetal_development" target="_blank">human fetal development</a>, the definition of "late" in this context is not precise, and different medical publications have discussed the varying <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestational_age" target="_blank">gestational age</a> points that can be involved.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Element115, post: 179770, member: 10457"] I'm pretty sure the argument isn't a matter of CONVENIENCE like OH, my baby is disabled? Great, now I gotta pay for special treatments blah blah - let's just kill it. NO. That's fucking psychotic. The circumstance is, oh... my child is born with a debilitating disease and it's going to only live for about 5-7 years and it's going to be in pain its entire life and we have no cure or treatment - THEN you can choose to humanely put it down - not for financial reasons, but for HUMANITY reasons - you do not want to bring a child into a world of insufferable pain. Most people have not been in a situation of that type of pain and are unable to comprehend the amount of suffering one goes through. There are poisons made by plants that will cause so much pain to a human (neurotoxin) that they want to kill themselves for relief. The bottom line is there are absolutely situations which warrant abortion past the fetal stage which is "illegal". The way the law is now, is basically saying I don't care if your child suffers, legally you have to keep it alive and keep treating it until it dies. Not to mention in the old days (pre-technology) this was part of natural selection. How is it "natural" to keep something alive which isn't meant to be alive and reproduce? Our gene pool is becoming tainted to say the least thanks to modern medicine and the general consensus to keep everything alive no matter what - even if it's against someone's WILL. There is a famous case of the man who's DNA melted. He was exposed to as much radiation as Hiroshima in a split second. He begged for them to kill him but they kept him alive and kept experimenting on him so they could gauge the effects of extreme radiation damage. Ultimately he died but it was unjust to keep a man alive who wanted to die since he was in so much pain and not even medicine could ease his ailment. There is no difference between that and torture but somehow this form of torture is legal. Why? Who knows, maybe the pursuit of knowledge makes it into a pure venture? Maybe that's what the abortion law needs, some pursuit of knowledge to make it all okay for the pro lifers. [B]Late termination of pregnancy[/B] ([B]TOP[/B]),[URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_termination_of_pregnancy#cite_note-2'][2][/URL] also known as [B]postviability abortion[/B],[URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_termination_of_pregnancy#cite_note-Guttmacher_Laws-3'][3][/URL] or simply [B]abortion[/B][URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_termination_of_pregnancy#cite_note-4'][4][/URL] is a termination of [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregnancy']pregnancy[/URL] that is performed during a later stage of pregnancy. Late termination of pregnancy is [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_the_United_States#By_trimester_of_pregnancy']more controversial[/URL] than abortion in general because it results in the death of a [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetus']fetus[/URL] that is more developed and sometimes [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_viability']able to survive independently[/URL]. Given the complex, gradual nature of [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_fetal_development']human fetal development[/URL], the definition of "late" in this context is not precise, and different medical publications have discussed the varying [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestational_age']gestational age[/URL] points that can be involved. [/QUOTE]
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