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<blockquote data-quote="kat_woman" data-source="post: 12978" data-attributes="member: 213"><p><strong>Mike Ruppert speaks of civil war!</strong></p><p></p><p>Did Titor ever say the Waco type events were to happen on our soil or did he say we would hear about them a lot in the press? I was reading the newspaper the other day and said to myself, Waco type events, in the news most of the time, we have to already know about it and not be seeing it. Then I read the Sunday paper and all I could find was the normal stuff on the Iraq war..... then I did a search for Iraq and Waco and here is the article I found.....</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Free Republic</p><p>Home ? Browse ? Search News/Activism</p><p>Topics ? Post Article </p><p></p><p>State of the Union: A Libertarian Response</p><p>myself</p><p></p><p></p><p>Posted on 01/30/2003 9:43:59 AM PST by Undecided</p><p></p><p></p><p>This isn?t the first time in our history that we?ve had the possibility of dangerous weapons in the hands of a leader we didn?t trust, and this won?t be the first time we?ve responded to this possible threat with a military assault. </p><p></p><p>In 1992, the U.S. federal government conducted a military siege at Ruby Ridge, ultimately killing Randy Weaver's dog, son and wife. Mr. Weaver was suspected of being a cult leader, hording weapons and ammunition for anti-government purposes. </p><p></p><p>The government was never able to prove their allegations, but ends-justify-the-means justice was the explanation for the loss of life. </p><p></p><p>Did we learn from this tragedy? Ask the surviving members of the Branch Davidian conflict. A short eight months after Ruby Ridge, Americans watched the siege at Waco, Texas. Again, anti-government beliefs and the possibility of dangerous weapons were offered as justification. When some people questioned this justification, accusations like rape and torture were thrown in for good measure. </p><p></p><p>Does this remind you of anything? That was essentially our President?s message in his state of the union address. A bad person with cultish followers might have or might be trying to obtain dangerous weapons. If this was good enough evidence to justify the slaughter of our own citizens, surely it must be good enough to justify wiping out some Arabs. </p><p></p><p>Does anyone remember the Oklahoma City bombing? It was a direct retaliation for Ruby Ridge and Waco. If unjust use of military force can inspire one of our own, Gulf war veteran Timothy McVeigh, to become a terrorist, just what do we expect to come from unjust use of military force on a sovereign nation? Think about it. </p><p></p><p>Granted, Saddam Hussein is an unstable person with dangerous beliefs. But that alone doesn?t justify military assault on Iraq anymore than it did on Ruby Ridge or Waco. The ends don?t justify the means, and the process of justice is more important than the result. </p><p></p><p>If Hussein really is a threat to us in the future, a terrorist waiting to happen, then wait for it to happen. Recognizing evil doesn?t make one holy, but dealing with evil actions does make one justified ? dealing with evil thoughts, ideas and aspirations is God?s work. </p><p></p><p>In a world where one long range hunting rifle can be enough to bring our nation?s capitol to a halt, weapon?s of mass destruction aren?t nearly as terrifying as are mass numbers of individuals with weapons and the means and desire to use them. Regrettably, that is exactly what an unjustified use of force on Iraq would give us unless we can show tangible evidence that it is unquestionably necessary.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kat_woman, post: 12978, member: 213"] [b]Mike Ruppert speaks of civil war![/b] Did Titor ever say the Waco type events were to happen on our soil or did he say we would hear about them a lot in the press? I was reading the newspaper the other day and said to myself, Waco type events, in the news most of the time, we have to already know about it and not be seeing it. Then I read the Sunday paper and all I could find was the normal stuff on the Iraq war..... then I did a search for Iraq and Waco and here is the article I found..... Free Republic Home ? Browse ? Search News/Activism Topics ? Post Article State of the Union: A Libertarian Response myself Posted on 01/30/2003 9:43:59 AM PST by Undecided This isn?t the first time in our history that we?ve had the possibility of dangerous weapons in the hands of a leader we didn?t trust, and this won?t be the first time we?ve responded to this possible threat with a military assault. In 1992, the U.S. federal government conducted a military siege at Ruby Ridge, ultimately killing Randy Weaver's dog, son and wife. Mr. Weaver was suspected of being a cult leader, hording weapons and ammunition for anti-government purposes. The government was never able to prove their allegations, but ends-justify-the-means justice was the explanation for the loss of life. Did we learn from this tragedy? Ask the surviving members of the Branch Davidian conflict. A short eight months after Ruby Ridge, Americans watched the siege at Waco, Texas. Again, anti-government beliefs and the possibility of dangerous weapons were offered as justification. When some people questioned this justification, accusations like rape and torture were thrown in for good measure. Does this remind you of anything? That was essentially our President?s message in his state of the union address. A bad person with cultish followers might have or might be trying to obtain dangerous weapons. If this was good enough evidence to justify the slaughter of our own citizens, surely it must be good enough to justify wiping out some Arabs. Does anyone remember the Oklahoma City bombing? It was a direct retaliation for Ruby Ridge and Waco. If unjust use of military force can inspire one of our own, Gulf war veteran Timothy McVeigh, to become a terrorist, just what do we expect to come from unjust use of military force on a sovereign nation? Think about it. Granted, Saddam Hussein is an unstable person with dangerous beliefs. But that alone doesn?t justify military assault on Iraq anymore than it did on Ruby Ridge or Waco. The ends don?t justify the means, and the process of justice is more important than the result. If Hussein really is a threat to us in the future, a terrorist waiting to happen, then wait for it to happen. Recognizing evil doesn?t make one holy, but dealing with evil actions does make one justified ? dealing with evil thoughts, ideas and aspirations is God?s work. In a world where one long range hunting rifle can be enough to bring our nation?s capitol to a halt, weapon?s of mass destruction aren?t nearly as terrifying as are mass numbers of individuals with weapons and the means and desire to use them. Regrettably, that is exactly what an unjustified use of force on Iraq would give us unless we can show tangible evidence that it is unquestionably necessary. [/QUOTE]
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