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<blockquote data-quote="CaryP" data-source="post: 22580" data-attributes="member: 34"><p><strong>minuteman project and Waco type events thread</strong></p><p></p><p>Pauli,</p><p></p><p>Sorry to take so long to get back to you, but I felt a reply was in order. Some of what's going on in our current day "politics" is a matter of opinion and political leaning. But as Paul points out, there is very little "politics" left to us anymore. Both of the major parties are controlled from behind the scenes for the benefit of those in control (predominantly elite ruling corportists). The expression "follow the money and you'll find out the truth" is very applicable to politics. Campaign reform is a total joke. Anyway, the point of what I'm trying to get to is having differences of opinions in politics is to be expected. Having a significant difference in political parties ended a while back. The similarities between the Dems and Reps. are greater than their differences. More importantly our govt. has become corrupted, and will continue in its corruption no matter who wins in November. Bush sucks. Kerry sucks. Whichever sucker wins, we'll all be sucking on it come November. </p><p></p><p>Now to address some of your last post.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Starting any statement with "trust me" is an invitation to distrust. I've been a life long Republican, so I am familiar with the "party line." The Republican party has been hijacked by the neocons and the corporatists who would use it for their own ends. As to the "track record" of communism and its toll of death, yeah and so what? I'm not advocating communism. I would find that intolerable. But death in the name of "something" has been the way of humanity probably since tribes began occupying controlled tracks of land. How many American Indians were killed in the conquest of the 48 states? How many foreigners have been killed as the result of CIA covert ops, directly or indirectly? We'll never know, but I suspect you'd be shocked by the truth. The CIA has its hand in every corner of the globe since its inception. Porter Goss, current CIA chief nominee, was a member of "Operation 40," an assassination arm of the CIA, back in the 60's. See related article <a href="http://www.madcowprod.com/" target="_blank">CIA Nominee in Pic of Agency's 60's Assassination Squad</a></p><p></p><p>By the time you add up all of "our" death and destruction of the last 200 years, we've got to be running a close second with "communism". We just get a much better spin on our body count, along with the requisite omission of facts. Don't go believing all the BS being spoon fed by politicos and the govt. It's mostly spin and lies designed to seduce you into believing 1) all is well, and 2) the govt. has your best interest at heart. Just the opposite is reality.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That is a ray of light that I am hoping will come through in the end. Americans have a tradition of burying their differences and coming together when attacked. My concern is that we're being attacked by the govt. and most of the populace is asleep at the wheel or in total denial of our current state of affairs. Until the scab is ripped off the festering sore that has become our govt., I doubt much progress will be forthcoming. Until then, we have to stay informed and in communication with each other as a country. If this country does not wake up and face the ugly truth of the beast the govt. has become before too long, this place won't be worth spit. Just my opinion. You believe what you want to believe.</p><p></p><p>Cary</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CaryP, post: 22580, member: 34"] [b]minuteman project and Waco type events thread[/b] Pauli, Sorry to take so long to get back to you, but I felt a reply was in order. Some of what's going on in our current day "politics" is a matter of opinion and political leaning. But as Paul points out, there is very little "politics" left to us anymore. Both of the major parties are controlled from behind the scenes for the benefit of those in control (predominantly elite ruling corportists). The expression "follow the money and you'll find out the truth" is very applicable to politics. Campaign reform is a total joke. Anyway, the point of what I'm trying to get to is having differences of opinions in politics is to be expected. Having a significant difference in political parties ended a while back. The similarities between the Dems and Reps. are greater than their differences. More importantly our govt. has become corrupted, and will continue in its corruption no matter who wins in November. Bush sucks. Kerry sucks. Whichever sucker wins, we'll all be sucking on it come November. Now to address some of your last post. Starting any statement with "trust me" is an invitation to distrust. I've been a life long Republican, so I am familiar with the "party line." The Republican party has been hijacked by the neocons and the corporatists who would use it for their own ends. As to the "track record" of communism and its toll of death, yeah and so what? I'm not advocating communism. I would find that intolerable. But death in the name of "something" has been the way of humanity probably since tribes began occupying controlled tracks of land. How many American Indians were killed in the conquest of the 48 states? How many foreigners have been killed as the result of CIA covert ops, directly or indirectly? We'll never know, but I suspect you'd be shocked by the truth. The CIA has its hand in every corner of the globe since its inception. Porter Goss, current CIA chief nominee, was a member of "Operation 40," an assassination arm of the CIA, back in the 60's. See related article [url=http://www.madcowprod.com/]CIA Nominee in Pic of Agency's 60's Assassination Squad[/url] By the time you add up all of "our" death and destruction of the last 200 years, we've got to be running a close second with "communism". We just get a much better spin on our body count, along with the requisite omission of facts. Don't go believing all the BS being spoon fed by politicos and the govt. It's mostly spin and lies designed to seduce you into believing 1) all is well, and 2) the govt. has your best interest at heart. Just the opposite is reality. That is a ray of light that I am hoping will come through in the end. Americans have a tradition of burying their differences and coming together when attacked. My concern is that we're being attacked by the govt. and most of the populace is asleep at the wheel or in total denial of our current state of affairs. Until the scab is ripped off the festering sore that has become our govt., I doubt much progress will be forthcoming. Until then, we have to stay informed and in communication with each other as a country. If this country does not wake up and face the ugly truth of the beast the govt. has become before too long, this place won't be worth spit. Just my opinion. You believe what you want to believe. Cary [/QUOTE]
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