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<blockquote data-quote="PyRo99" data-source="post: 25810" data-attributes="member: 23"><p><strong>Re: One step closer</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>In all honesty when I read this(See above quote), I thought "What are we turning <em>tyrannical</em>?" What is the next step John? Seems like this has all been mapped out, and I will be voicing my opinion on each of the new additions.</p><p> </p><p>Sosuemetoo and CaryP both have resigned their posistions, but we fail to acknowledge all that they have been through, as Grayson has. I resigned in my day, but I believe we all need to root out the source of the problem.</p><p> </p><p>A smaller Administrative Staff? No, I Will not be here long if that occurs. For one, I do not trust a few of the staff members, and we all know why too. I still have wounds that have not been mended from previous battles. If I felt like petitioning the staff members that have made these wounds, it would only be detrimental to the community.</p><p> </p><p>What shall we do? John, you have come back demanding the site be moved back into your name. Fair enough, I kept my mouth quiet. You then removed members from the Ban List. And this is where I blow the whistle.</p><p> </p><p>Those that were banned, were banned for specific reasons. They were not banned on "bullsh1t". If you want to un-ban people, then I am requesting the unbanning of SnowFireWatches. Is she really that big of a threat? Hell, certain moderators exposed Mudpuppy for whom she was, as well as Gary Voss. There was no legal suit, hell there was no lawyer that Gary Voss allegedly hired! HECK, Gary Voss doesn't even work for the company he says he does. And yet, Snow was banned by the Admins, and Moderators. Where is the "fair and balanced". Who took the time to look at what was going on, and be at peace within the chaos? Where is the justice that is promised on this forum?</p><p> </p><p>Did I strike a nerve? I know that TheHeggy and Jedistryker both have had a problem with Snow. But then again, I've had my fair share of problems with Jedi. Am I a problem too, that will be needed to be dealt with? Because I assure you, the moment you scale this site down to you, Jedi and Heggy, I will be disappearing. Please review the thread where I resigned, as a Moderator. You will see what occured to make me quit.</p><p> </p><p>My suggestion? Get more moderators that are willing to act their posistion out. Sosuemetoo, CaryP, and Grayson were some of the best mods this board has seen. Some mods lack and do not devote time to this board. Do I take in the fact that there are "Real Lives"? Yes, and thats why these mods, as well as KiraSjon, are exemplary. They were able to balance all three portions of their lives, and still continue their modding duties.</p><p> </p><p>Now, onto the additions to this new place we call "home". This rating system, is not what I had expected. Pointing out the "bad seeds"? What if you don't have the time nor energy to add some reputation points? What if you just don't <em>care</em>. I am still all for my Judical Branch, especially if we are limiting the powers on this site. The Rating system will not work, for these reasons:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Members will see the ratings and if they do not like someone a bad "rep" will form. Essentially a compeition will form. And members will <a href="http://69.42.87.207/cgi-bin/ezlclk.fcgi?id=10087" target="_blank">rate</a> one another poorly. And then when a new member comes and sees the ratings, will they judge? Is this what we are striving to become, a judgemental community?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Members may do things, and draw out the unesscesarry evils from within. One bad post, and the member, that intially started the beating, will band together with friends, and vote poorly.</li> </ul><p>There are many more, but this is just the beginning.</p><p> </p><p>Self-Governning of the Community? Why the hell don't we just resort to Anarchy for Christ's sake? We still need the Moderators and Administrators. Some Administrators should not have the power that they do, but hell, thats life. Again, the community is formed by all ages. The power should not be allowed into the younger ones hands, because they get pissed, Bam Lower Rating, and report the post. And we always <em>had</em> the report post button, do not try and reinvent something that was once there.</p><p> </p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"Jedistryker\")</div> </p><p> </p><p>How would you feel if you saw everything around you crumbling? The foundation is even cracking. Personally, I don't feel safer and I won't feel safer until the members are safeguarded. There isn't a buffer inbetween the members and you three, and the moderators. I am still pushing for an "Over-Seers" to be created.</p><p> </p><p>One more thing, when will the veil of secrecy(between the members and the Staff) be lifted? Or was this just some sort of propaganda?</p><p> </p><p>Pyro</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PyRo99, post: 25810, member: 23"] [b]Re: One step closer[/b] In all honesty when I read this(See above quote), I thought "What are we turning [i]tyrannical[/i]?" What is the next step John? Seems like this has all been mapped out, and I will be voicing my opinion on each of the new additions. Sosuemetoo and CaryP both have resigned their posistions, but we fail to acknowledge all that they have been through, as Grayson has. I resigned in my day, but I believe we all need to root out the source of the problem. A smaller Administrative Staff? No, I Will not be here long if that occurs. For one, I do not trust a few of the staff members, and we all know why too. I still have wounds that have not been mended from previous battles. If I felt like petitioning the staff members that have made these wounds, it would only be detrimental to the community. What shall we do? John, you have come back demanding the site be moved back into your name. Fair enough, I kept my mouth quiet. You then removed members from the Ban List. And this is where I blow the whistle. Those that were banned, were banned for specific reasons. They were not banned on "bullsh1t". If you want to un-ban people, then I am requesting the unbanning of SnowFireWatches. Is she really that big of a threat? Hell, certain moderators exposed Mudpuppy for whom she was, as well as Gary Voss. There was no legal suit, hell there was no lawyer that Gary Voss allegedly hired! HECK, Gary Voss doesn't even work for the company he says he does. And yet, Snow was banned by the Admins, and Moderators. Where is the "fair and balanced". Who took the time to look at what was going on, and be at peace within the chaos? Where is the justice that is promised on this forum? Did I strike a nerve? I know that TheHeggy and Jedistryker both have had a problem with Snow. But then again, I've had my fair share of problems with Jedi. Am I a problem too, that will be needed to be dealt with? Because I assure you, the moment you scale this site down to you, Jedi and Heggy, I will be disappearing. Please review the thread where I resigned, as a Moderator. You will see what occured to make me quit. My suggestion? Get more moderators that are willing to act their posistion out. Sosuemetoo, CaryP, and Grayson were some of the best mods this board has seen. Some mods lack and do not devote time to this board. Do I take in the fact that there are "Real Lives"? Yes, and thats why these mods, as well as KiraSjon, are exemplary. They were able to balance all three portions of their lives, and still continue their modding duties. Now, onto the additions to this new place we call "home". This rating system, is not what I had expected. Pointing out the "bad seeds"? What if you don't have the time nor energy to add some reputation points? What if you just don't [i]care[/i]. I am still all for my Judical Branch, especially if we are limiting the powers on this site. The Rating system will not work, for these reasons: [list] [*]Members will see the ratings and if they do not like someone a bad "rep" will form. Essentially a compeition will form. And members will [url=http://69.42.87.207/cgi-bin/ezlclk.fcgi?id=10087]rate[/url] one another poorly. And then when a new member comes and sees the ratings, will they judge? Is this what we are striving to become, a judgemental community? [*]Members may do things, and draw out the unesscesarry evils from within. One bad post, and the member, that intially started the beating, will band together with friends, and vote poorly. [/list]There are many more, but this is just the beginning. Self-Governning of the Community? Why the hell don't we just resort to Anarchy for Christ's sake? We still need the Moderators and Administrators. Some Administrators should not have the power that they do, but hell, thats life. Again, the community is formed by all ages. The power should not be allowed into the younger ones hands, because they get pissed, Bam Lower Rating, and report the post. And we always [i]had[/i] the report post button, do not try and reinvent something that was once there. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"Jedistryker\")</div> How would you feel if you saw everything around you crumbling? The foundation is even cracking. Personally, I don't feel safer and I won't feel safer until the members are safeguarded. There isn't a buffer inbetween the members and you three, and the moderators. I am still pushing for an "Over-Seers" to be created. One more thing, when will the veil of secrecy(between the members and the Staff) be lifted? Or was this just some sort of propaganda? Pyro [/QUOTE]
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